Do Pfizer inoculations do more harm than good?
I've heard that hospitalizations in the U.S. are still 17 times lower with vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
Steve Albers
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I agree that one shouldn't argue with someone's religious beliefs. Where though would the world be without people having some faith and optimism? I think there's room for that to coexist with the desire for hard evidence.
There are plenty of real things one can respectfully argue about, such as the scientific aspects of his papers. There's also a reasonable inference that Rossi's inventions aren't impossible based on other scientific research by various institutions. Additionally private companies are secretive in general so that in itself isn't anything to complain about.
BTW I'm not a pure acolyte if you consider my recent postings (e.g. on JONP).
Thanks Shane - who has Rossi actually ripped off? Is this forum driven that much by sympathy for whoever this is? We'll see if I'm interested to develop a thick skin and be a lab subject for your future psychology class
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Yes the depth of field is consistent with the regular LED being brighter as per the lux measurements.
I think more attention and interest will be about the SKLep, as Rossi has already mentioned a fair amount about Lux and Lumens and the request for more info about the SKLed efficiency. Maybe there will be more, since stating 10000 Lumens is still a false statement. He did say he goes ballistic (in lower case) about comments on the professionalism. -
Many notable things in history have unfolded over a number of years - it's good to take the long view.
Thanks Interested Observer (even if you're still personalizing things too much). I wonder if you prefer a forum without any debate from the different points of view? I also think you may be mistaken since I do like Reagan's "trust but verify". -
Like it's solving itself since over 10 years? Did he sell just one Waste to Oil thingy, 1MW E-Cat, Hot Cat, Home Cat, Cat and Mouse whatever it was, Quark, Quark X, E-Cat SK, E-Cat SKL, and now SKLed and SKLEP? They all were announced, certified, there were big international partners, factory buildings have been planned, visited, begun to built, robotic production lines were ordered, set up, programmed. That kind of solving?
Edit: got it wrong, the story started 40 years ago with Petrol Dragon. 40 years of nothing except "Rossi says".
It seems different this time since Rossi is addressing (or at least acknowledging) many of the criticisms right on his blog and in Q&As. So the discussions will have some momentum to help resolve things.
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There isn’t the slightest chance in hell that there are 70,000 orders. If you believe that there are, you have serious issues.
Inappropriate personal attack hints at empty arguments and tends to drive open minded people away from the forum. More interesting to simply wait and see what happens.
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There aren't any different opinions anymore. At least by anyone rational and even the slightest bit competent enough to have an opinion. Did you read Matts comments? MarkU's? Rossi's incompetent/fraudulent lumen calculations should be a clue.
Some folks aren't really ready to discount the Bologna report. I think you are being unfair and presumptuous in characterizing others - I am at least micro-rational and micro-competent.
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Maybe time to look ahead? What possibly could come next? No way in heck does Rossi get any SKLed orders now. My guess is he will once again do the switcheroo, and abandon the SKLed completely for the SKLep. But of course this will need more hard work from his team for another year, for 5 sigma etc.
However Rossi has stated that he's happy with the presentation quality and the number of orders (around 70000 thus far).
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The Univ of Bologna report has enough info to calculate the lumens with reasonable accuracy - a quick ballpark result at the 200cm distance would be the illuminated area about 1.77 m^2 with an average / representative illuminance of 180 Lux results in ~320 Lumens. That's only equivalent to around a 40 watt incandescent bulb. This is also about 65 Lumens / Watt.
https://e-catworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/MISURE-UNIBO-SKLED.pdf
Thus the SKLed seems to underperform. In contrast the SKLep appears to do better as advertised.
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Yes perhaps there's "handling" or an inefficient type of light. Rossi seems to have a genuine misunderstanding about lumens as if you can increase the lumens by focusing a light into a tighter area. He's switching interpretation of Lux and Lumens.
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Data reading was made by a single point giving a nonsense comparison method due to large errors.
I'd suggest there's > 0 sense, since for now we can make some educated guesses by looking at the context of the video and considering a factor of five as what we're comparing against. Of course we'd like the more rigorous measurements as well.
What I'd also like to know is why the regular LED light at 98 Watts isn't really blasting the place with bright light, since if it was reasonably efficient it would be around 10000 Lumens. In that case they would be too blinded by it to really be able to see what they're doing.
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Just looking the video is pretty clear that the covered area of SKLed is a lot smaller compared with the LED one.
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- on top the SKLed test
- on bottom the standard LED test
I see a lot of vignetting in the standard LED, so the effective area is more similar between the two lights. Thus the difference in area appears to be insufficient to explain the factor of 5 improvement in relative efficiency.
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Right, though the difference in LX/W in the video seemed much greater than the larger area spread of the traditional LED light.
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Still the charlatan spreads his bullshit even more ignorant.
I'd suggest (In less personal terms) he is misunderstanding the terminology as he's learning from his lighting engineer. This still doesn't explain what is going on and why the relative comparison (albeit in the non-standard LX/W context) was better of SKLed vs LED.
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The SKLed had a moderate efficiency (order of 100 LM/W). By comparison with the regular LED his informal LX/W comparisons were much better, though why was the regular LED apparently showing up to be much less efficient?
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Sounds good - the certification might at least have some sort of "sticker" and listing somewhere. We'll see how many product details are publicly available depending on the certifying agency. Here is an example:
UL Certification DatabaseQuickly access UL certification information with the powerful search engine Product iQ.www.ul.com -
That's fine if you'd like more evidence (if that's what you're obliquely suggesting). Perhaps you can ask him at next week's demo for more details on the certification? I'm unsure in general how public these things are with certifying agencies.
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We know this as it has been mentioned today on Rossi's JONP blog.
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How do you distinguish Rossi’s “products” in the R&D stage from any others?
I'm distinguishing (as mentioned just above) by the certification being completed, and Rossi's stated intent to have SKLep included on the order form in connection with next week's demo (sooner than I had anticipated).
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Actually I think this is new in some respects as SKLep was thought to be more in an R&D stage for a while, yet should be showing up in the order forms next week.
