Who is in the Domincan Republic?
Paradigmnoia
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145 Includes
"Plaintiffs shall serve their supplemental interrogatory answers to Defendant, John
Vaughn's First Set of Interrogatories by February 10, 2017. Such responses shall include all
screen names or aliases Plaintiff Rossi uses to post information on the lnternet. To the extent
Plaintiff Rossi does not use screen names or aliases to post information on the lnternet, he must
issue a response verifying the same. [Tr. 51 :15-52:3]"
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Nevertheless, I did make these selected areas brighter by lowering their camera emissivity.
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Sigh...
The un-calibrated Stepanov experiment with thermocouples far from the middle of the device, delaying the normal crossover that occurs when the centre get hotter than the outside in a concentric hot tube design...
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What happened to the 'millions of data' per day?
If Fabiani's giant data file essentially boils down to the numbers we have already seen, then that would be impressive.
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So if there were multiple measurements taken of the Plant parameters (temp, pressure, water),
by several persons (ERV, Fabiani, Rossi, Customer),
then how many of each measuring device (water meters, etc.), are there?
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100.1
is a metaphor for boiling
synchronicitically
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The temperature reported is one of the few numbers that look like they were actually measured by something.
Why would the PCE-830 only report daily Plant electrical consumption in 1000 Wh increments? (except inexplicably in seven instances, four consecutive times in November, and three in bunched together in May, when the ERV data shows 100 Wh increments).
The water meter that only reports in 1000 kg increments is also sloppy. It could poor selection of instruments, but the meter generally comes with 100 L (kg) electric pulse configuration, and can be ordered with as low as 5 L increments. Ordering a meter that only reports 1000 kg increments on purpose seems very odd.
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I just read Abd's latest chapter, and was reminded that both Fabiani and Penon agree with the input supply, in apparent local opposition to the FPL supply.
(Fabiani's data trace is 'under' the FPL trace, we are to assume, when we cannot see it.)
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If we consider the lumps with valleys mostly on Sundays in the FPL data to be loads that can be turned on and off, the resulting line (which includes the ~ 15 kWh per day empty warehouse amount) should be the amount of constant load as measured by FPL (New blue line).
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Sorry JedRothwell, We don't need calorimetry.
Andrea Rossi
May 19, 2015 at 6:44 AMAlexvs:
Yes, the Customer is measuring independently the energy that arrives to his plant, both with gauges and ( more important) with the operation of his manufacturing system, which needs our energy to work.
The measurements give similar results, within the margin of error of the instrumentation, but, as I said, what counts more than all is the FACT that the energy we supply him makes his plant work as expected. Calorimetic measurements now are coupled with manufacturing efficiency measurements, which put in evidence the very result that really counts: is our Customer making money with our plant or not ? This is the most important issue. If the Customer does not make money with our plant, he will not get solace if we will present him good calorimetric results, however obtained…
Data regarding the COP will be given after the completion of the tests and the final results can be either positive or negative.
Warm Regards,
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The Bass, JMP, and Johnson Answer is now in the Docket.
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@Bob ,
In my opinion, based on the limited info presently available, the cyclical peaks and valleys represent weekday and Saturday lights and mundane warehouse loads. The lights in the warehouse are old things, maybe HP sodium, metal halide, or similar, that use a substantial amount of electricity. Maybe Rossi manned the Plant on Sundays and did not use the warehouse lights.
It can be supposed, although only a best guess, that the weekday lighting etc. loads can be subtracted from the FPL lumpy line to arrive at the base warehouse load, which includes the Plant consumption.
The Plant carries on through Sundays at 3/4 or full nameplate capacity (or close), in theory, even though the warehouse seems to have no need for lights, etc. during that day. I am sure many excuses/explanations will be made for the Sunday production of steam for the Customer while the employees are absent or don't require lights etc. on Sundays.
But why the plant was able to consume more electricity than was supplied for the two week period in November has fewer excuses/explanations. The idea that FPL had a separate meter for the Plant I am sure was looked into by IH when they got a subpoena to look at the warehouse consumption data. Remember also that Matts had an electrical bill for JMP, which was once used as "proof" that the Plant was making substantial excess heat.
(10 x 400W Metal Halide bulbs would explain most of the electrical consumption lumps, of they were on all day, or almost all day, on weekdays + Saturdays)
Conveniently, Rossi supplied monthly data for the (more or less) unoccupied Doral warehouse suite in the Exhibit in Document 128-02, showing about 15 kWh per day average when empty.
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At the link below can be found, at the bottom of the page, a plot of 21 days of daily electrical consumption for running lights at a large warehouse. Note the nice weekday peaks and weekend lows. Although clearly a much larger warehouse, the cyclical consumption seems to be a reasonable comparison to the lumpy FPL plot.
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You have Fabiani where Penon should be in a couple of places.
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Date __________ERV kWh in _______FPL kWh in to whole warehouse unit (approximate)
Nov 14 2015 .......... 272 ............................. 303.2
Nov 15 .................... 272 ............................. 218.7
Nov 16 .................... 273 ............................. 280.5
Nov 17 .................... 266 ............................. 274.0
Nov 18 .................... 273.7 .......................... 265.0
Nov 19 .................... 272.6 .......................... 274.0
Nov 20 .................... 270.4 .......................... 205.7
Nov 21 .................... 270.3 .......................... 205.7
Nov 22 .................... 272 ............................. 248.0
Nov 23 .................... 271 ............................. 264.3Nov 24 .................... 271 ............................. 254.5
Nov 25 .................... 268 ............................. 264.3
Nov 26 .................... 266 ............................. 251.3
Nov 27 .................... 267 ............................. 257.8
Nov 28 .................... 266 ............................. 205.8
Nov 29 .................... 266 ............................. 205.8
Nov 30 2015 .......... 268 .............................. 332.6 -
Shane D. ,
It doesn't seems suspicious to you that for about two weeks straight, the Plant used more power than was actually supplied to the
buildingwarehouse unit by FPL? (the green line goes below the red line).If you consider that the FPL power includes lights, A/C (or heat), computers, bathroom fans, coffee pots, refrigerators and whatever else is plugged in, when the Plant uses more power than was sent by the utility, even by a little bit (according to the line), it is using far more than possible. That means that the ERV Plant input energy data is flawed. Unreliable.
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Soooo.....
I suppose the JoNP mW Plant comments vs kWh and water meter timeline can begin to see if there is any excitement to be had there...
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OK, found my error. I started using the first column of dates to pick the weekday, rather than the second.
So now I have mostly Sunday drops, in agreement with Peter.
The plot, (with another day added to the start just to get Sunday working on the X axis) is like this: