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    Eric Walker wrote: "I'm looking for measured, incremental changes to the existing understanding of physics, not something that turns physics upside down and inside out ."

    I don't agree that Calaon's EMNR theory 'turns physics upside down.'
    That seems to be ill thought out rhetoric.
    Physics is not a flower vase, it has no sides. It has no upside or down side, inside or outside.

    My close reading of the theory at

    taught me about the zitterbewegung a concept promoted by Dellasca, Cook for several decades
    and having its genesis in the surah of Prophet Dirac via Schrodinger in1930.

    Calaon has applied the zitterbewegung concept to the electron path around the proton.

    Incremental? Incremental is not a necessity for physics.

    Isaac Newton's theories were not incremental but were based on the theory and work of giants who went before him

    THHuxley wrote: I'd just like to add this. For me ... a good deal of the interest is Rossi psychology, but I also find the whole LENR fringe science stuff (is it real science - or pseudo-science?) fascinating, and like science (hence my pseudonym).

    THHuxley was an example of how prejudice obstructs science. His pronouncements about human evolution were pseudoscience

    Thomas Huxley claimed that the skulls of Australians –
    whom he referred to as ‘the lowest and most degraded in rank of any which can claim humanity’ –
    ‘are wonderfully near the degraded type of the Neanderthal skull’ (1862: 166).…+the+Australian+Aborigine.

    Hopefully the 21st Century reincarnation will be less pseudo.

    stefan wrote: "If I could get a grant to take a second phd, this time in physics, doing the necessary work of helping SANITIZING physical science I would do that "

    Go for it Stefan.

    Focus on the zitterbewegung... a fertile PhD area.

    Andrea said
    "I assisted from the forefront .... Paillet"

    I looked at Paillet’s deep femtometer orbitals paper
    - huge electron ionisation energies of 136000 to 350000 eV..
    But LENR phenomena do not require huge energies to initiate,
    -in the 10 -100 ev range.
    I was also bothered by the contrast btw the exact femto radius calcs
    and the hand waving when it came to the fundamental issue of explaining why the electron did not fall into the nucleus.

    e.g1. A “subtle” magnetic force? “a repulsive core near the origin...repulsive interaction that forces the wavefunction away from the singularity.”
    e.g2. Centrifugal forces? only the deep orbits ‘see’ the repulsive barrier, imposed by centrifugal forces at small r, as significant.”

    I prefer the EMNR theory with frequency harmonics between the zittering proton/electrons
    because it yields lower energy levels(1- 100 eV) for LENR initiation.

    The zitterbewegung has justification from Hestenes(1990) Gouanere(2007) Bauer(2014) and others.

    In 1990 Hestenes argued that
    "The zitterbewegung is fundamental for the interpretation of the Dirac equation
    and à fortiori for interpretation of quantum mechanics."

    Planet Physics in 2016 still appears to have not heard Hestenes
    but hopefully we can see in the near future

    zitterbewegung trending and a QED mathematical explanation
    for the harmonics of the
    electron-proton interaction in the Calaon EMNR hyd.


    Many have said "oath on the Bible".
    I classify that with "I swear to God" which is uttered
    by so many young so glibly in this city.

    Peter Gluck brought it up first so I shall quote
    one of his countrymen: Richard Wurmbrand.

    "“The Bible is a wonderful book. It is the truth about the Truth. It is not the
    Truth. A sermon taken from the Bible can be a wonderful thing to hear. It is
    the truth about the truth about the truth. But it is not the truth. There have
    been many books written about the things contained in the Bible. I have written
    some myself. They can be quite wonderful to read. They are the truth about the
    truth about truth about the Truth. But they are NOT the Truth. Only Jesus
    Christ is the Truth. Sometimes the Truth can be drowned in a multitude of

    I have no skin in this Rossi versus Darden dispute.

    If God wishes to delay industrialisation of LENR
    for three decades that's fine with me. The price of
    energy is over 50 times less than it was in the time
    that Jesus walked on earth, and that cheap energy has
    made little difference to our moral condition or the
    condition of the poor .
    Reducing the energy cost another 5 times or ten times
    is no cornucopia of blessing
    ..the poor will still be with us.

    I can assure you that that is where Truth is
    .. with the poor and the downtrodden

    I quote Wurmbrand again.

    "Whoever wishes to meet Jesus must meet him in places
    where brothers and sisters of Jesus are hungry,
    thirsty, naked, unwanted, sick or in prison.
    Whoever keeps himself distant from these places remains distant from Jesus."

    The Truth is not with Dirac or in this forum
    It is in prison


    Dewey said "Tom Darden and JT Vaughn. They are God fearing, Bible believing men who will always speak the truth."

    In my experience in several churches
    I have seen several allegedly God fearing Bible believing men fall from Grace and lie
    especially when money is involved.

    I distrust any mixture of God-fearing with money

    Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Felix said
    "The good thing is, that there much probably will be such a trial and even if it will took years, at the end we all will have a result!"

    Years ? By that time this forum will have developed an entirely new solar system.. and perhaps a new galaxy...

    ..Planet Rossi,
    The Tabloid Belt..
    Planetoid Weaver..
    The Toort Cloud..
    The Bilky Way..The IP Nebula...

    Dewey said "defamation action"

    Quark:1960s: a word invented by Murray Gell-Man
    Originally quork, the term was changed by association with the line
    ‘Three quarks for Muster Mark’ in Joyce's Finnegans Wake (1939).

    Both Murray Gell-Mann and James Joyce are in no position to litigate.

    On the other hand “The Cheese Barn” may not have reached its expiry date yet.

    Of the 6 quarks that I know of perhaps 'Beauty" might feel most defamed by having an X appended.


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    Jed Rothwell said

    "ya think"

    Yes I do think that this is a comedy rather than tragedy.

    In the wider world there are bigger comedies such as the USA burning through $500M in Syria…tary-syrian-isis-fighters.

    There is another quote about uncertainty.. but Feynman cannot match the Bard

    "The scientist has a lot of experience with ignorance and doubt and uncertainty,
    and this experience is of very great importance, I think.
    When a scientist doesn’t know the answer to a problem, he is ignorant.
    When he has a hunch as to what the result is, he is uncertain.
    And when he is pretty darn sure of what the result is going to be, he is still in some doubt.
    We have found it of paramount importance that in order to progress we must recognize our ignorance and leave room for doubt.
    Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty
    — some most unsure, some nearly sure, but none absolutely certain"