Posts by robert bryant

Eric Walker wrote: "I'm looking for measured, incremental changes to the existing understanding of physics, not something that turns physics upside down and inside out ."

I don't agree that Calaon's EMNR theory 'turns physics upside down.'
That seems to be ill thought out rhetoric.
Physics is not a flower vase, it has no sides. It has no upside or down side, inside or outside.

My close reading of the theory at

http://lenr-calaon-explanation.weebly.com/

taught me about the zitterbewegung a concept promoted by Dellasca, Cook for several decades
and having its genesis in the surah of Prophet Dirac via Schrodinger in1930.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zitterbewegung

Calaon has applied the zitterbewegung concept to the electron path around the proton.

Incremental? Incremental is not a necessity for physics.

Isaac Newton's theories were not incremental but were based on the theory and work of giants who went before him

THHuxley wrote: I'd just like to add this. For me ... a good deal of the interest is Rossi psychology, but I also find the whole LENR fringe science stuff (is it real science - or pseudo-science?) fascinating, and like science (hence my pseudonym).

THHuxley was an example of how prejudice obstructs science. His pronouncements about human evolution were pseudoscience

Thomas Huxley claimed that the skulls of Australians –
whom he referred to as ‘the lowest and most degraded in rank of any which can claim humanity’ –
‘are wonderfully near the degraded type of the Neanderthal skull’ (1862: 166).

https://www.google.com.au/?gws…+the+Australian+Aborigine.

Hopefully the 21st Century reincarnation will be less pseudo.

Andrea,
Apropos EMNR theory.

Is there a possibility of hyd production from proton + tungsten
in this Ukrainian May, 2016 research
http://www.hrpub.org/download/20160530/UJPA6-18406680.pdf

Their Lagrangian explanation does not mention zitterbewegung
or magnetic force??
I can understand their explanation a little, but I don't think
'rigid body' fits with zitterbewegung.

stefan wrote: "If I could get a grant to take a second phd, this time in physics, doing the necessary work of helping SANITIZING physical science I would do that "

Go for it Stefan.

Focus on the zitterbewegung... a fertile PhD area.

Dewey said " Dorothy's house"

Carolina is a long ways form Kansas which is a long ways from Oz which is a long ways from reality.

Maybe I am missing something deep in this allusion?

Andrea said
"I assisted from the forefront .... Paillet"

I looked at Paillet’s deep femtometer orbitals paper
- huge electron ionisation energies of 136000 to 350000 eV..
But LENR phenomena do not require huge energies to initiate,
-in the 10 -100 ev range.
I was also bothered by the contrast btw the exact femto radius calcs
and the hand waving when it came to the fundamental issue of explaining why the electron did not fall into the nucleus.

e.g1. A “subtle” magnetic force? “a repulsive core near the origin...repulsive interaction that forces the wavefunction away from the singularity.”
e.g2. Centrifugal forces? only the deep orbits ‘see’ the repulsive barrier, imposed by centrifugal forces at small r, as significant.”

I prefer the EMNR theory with frequency harmonics between the zittering proton/electrons
because it yields lower energy levels(1- 100 eV) for LENR initiation.

The zitterbewegung has justification from Hestenes(1990) Gouanere(2007) Bauer(2014) and others.

fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Hestenes_Electron_time_essa.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/1403.4580

In 1990 Hestenes argued that
"The zitterbewegung is fundamental for the interpretation of the Dirac equation
and à fortiori for interpretation of quantum mechanics."

Planet Physics in 2016 still appears to have not heard Hestenes
but hopefully we can see in the near future

zitterbewegung trending and a QED mathematical explanation
for the harmonics of the
electron-proton interaction in the Calaon EMNR hyd.

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Alan was sure that Dewey's motive is pure
and I am sure that Torkel's motive is 101% pure

but what they write is 100 % driven slush.

these two testosterroneous teenagers have an advantage over me

Adolescent dementia has got them first.

They are immune to grumpyoldmanness

Science evidence for this @
http://www.news.com.au/lifesty…ry-fneuzlbd-1226587753930

Many have said "oath on the Bible".
I classify that with "I swear to God" which is uttered
by so many young so glibly in this city.

Peter Gluck brought it up first so I shall quote
one of his countrymen: Richard Wurmbrand.

"“The Bible is a wonderful book. It is the truth about the Truth. It is not the
Truth. A sermon taken from the Bible can be a wonderful thing to hear. It is
the truth about the truth about the truth. But it is not the truth. There have
been many books written about the things contained in the Bible. I have written
some myself. They can be quite wonderful to read. They are the truth about the
truth about truth about the Truth. But they are NOT the Truth. Only Jesus
Christ is the Truth. Sometimes the Truth can be drowned in a multitude of
words."

I have no skin in this Rossi versus Darden dispute.

If God wishes to delay industrialisation of LENR
for three decades that's fine with me. The price of
energy is over 50 times less than it was in the time
that Jesus walked on earth, and that cheap energy has
made little difference to our moral condition or the
condition of the poor .
Reducing the energy cost another 5 times or ten times
is no cornucopia of blessing
..the poor will still be with us.

I can assure you that that is where Truth is
.. with the poor and the downtrodden

I quote Wurmbrand again.

"Whoever wishes to meet Jesus must meet him in places
where brothers and sisters of Jesus are hungry,
thirsty, naked, unwanted, sick or in prison.
Whoever keeps himself distant from these places remains distant from Jesus."

The Truth is not with Dirac or in this forum
It is in prison

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Perhaps "Love is blind" any further comment is sub judice until the divorce sttlement

Dewey said "Tom Darden and JT Vaughn. They are God fearing, Bible believing men who will always speak the truth."

In my experience in several churches
I have seen several allegedly God fearing Bible believing men fall from Grace and lie
especially when money is involved.

I distrust any mixture of God-fearing with money

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Perhaps we can see the Darden:Rossi corporation in 26 years time? 2042?

Perhaps the analogy with the Wright brothers is not valid.

Felix said "a very good spirit"

And so say I, keep the faith and in very good spirit...
May God and Dirac both bless this forum

Jed said "there are two choices...."

Probably true in the long run

But some industries are dinosaurs and don't think so far ahead

One other choice is to lobby governments.

Case in point .. the coal industry.. however this can only last a few years..

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/induscode.php?id=E1210

Felix said
"The good thing is, that there much probably will be such a trial and even if it will took years, at the end we all will have a result!"

Years ? By that time this forum will have developed an entirely new solar system.. and perhaps a new galaxy...

..Planet Rossi,
The Tabloid Belt..
Planetoid Weaver..
The Toort Cloud..
The Bilky Way..The IP Nebula...

Hermano escribio " Robert Yes I knew ans found it"

Yo sabía que usted lo sabía

Hermano escribió " Lux Energy"

If you haven' found it already there is a link at

http://www.e-catworld.com/2016…ndustrial-heat-affiliate/

but there is little light there.

Dewey said "defamation action"

Quark:1960s: a word invented by Murray Gell-Man
Originally quork, the term was changed by association with the line
‘Three quarks for Muster Mark’ in Joyce's Finnegans Wake (1939).

Both Murray Gell-Mann and James Joyce are in no position to litigate.

On the other hand “The Cheese Barn” may not have reached its expiry date yet.

Of the 6 quarks that I know of perhaps 'Beauty" might feel most defamed by having an X appended.

Axil:
How does blue light exit?

I found that sapphire is relatively opaque to Xrays and luminesces UV in the 160,250 nm range.
Perhaps the tube is of a similar material absorbing Xrays and producing light at ~400 nm?

Axil I think you meant that Mills produced 10 nm wavelength(UV) rather than 10 mm( microwave)?

Jed Rothwell said

"ya think"

Yes I do think that this is a comedy rather than tragedy.

In the wider world there are bigger comedies such as the USA burning through $500M in Syria

http://www.theguardian.com/us-…tary-syrian-isis-fighters.

There is another quote about uncertainty.. but Feynman cannot match the Bard

"The scientist has a lot of experience with ignorance and doubt and uncertainty,
and this experience is of very great importance, I think.
When a scientist doesn’t know the answer to a problem, he is ignorant.
When he has a hunch as to what the result is, he is uncertain.
And when he is pretty darn sure of what the result is going to be, he is still in some doubt.
We have found it of paramount importance that in order to progress we must recognize our ignorance and leave room for doubt.
Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty
— some most unsure, some nearly sure, but none absolutely certain"