QuoteThe problem is, they don't look because there is no radiation
You remind me of Sean P. Burke, expert of USPTO.
Naughty men say: no radiation, no nuclear reaction.
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As we can see from LENR-canr.org papers have been published many places, like in American Physical Society meetings.
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My guess is that someone somewhere wanted to apply for funding and wanted to drop the contentious Nuclear for the more fashionable Nanoscale.
Don't worry, you can find the acronim lenr only in this string: lenr-canr.org. It is only a ludicrous invention by some cold fusionist. Outside this Forum nobody knows the word lenr. -
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Why isn't Holmlid work in these databases.
Holmlid is Swedish. Perhaps you can trace him in Lund University database. Which work are you referring to? -
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1. We OBSERVE something mysterious in nature, like the accelerating expansion of the Universe, let's call it "dark energy", since we don't know the excact mechanism.
You publish a paper on dark matter with all requirements. Exfor stores the paper in its database.Quote2. Now you check your EXFOR database and find nothing of dark energy. But it must have some nuclear interactions if the observation is true.
You check exfor and many other papers convince yourself to look deeper inside the matter.Quote3. Therefore you conclude the observation must be wrong, or Else it should be listed in EXFOR.
You have to thank exfor because it has given you important hints to go ahead.Quote4. So your final conclusion is that dark energy is junk science, junk observation. "GANS does not Believe in dark matter and dark energy, since EXFOR don't has it"
You tell your wife that exfor is an excellent tool for promoting science.
Why do you think exfor is committed against cold fusion?
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While LENR-canr.org reports on a highly interesting mystery of nature, EXFOR just reports on what is allready known.
EXFOR reports real nuclear reactions, not would-be nuclear reactions.
Where do you see a mystery of nature if LENR and CANR exist only in JR's library? You look like a cult where Holy Graal is looked for. If you are lacking official recognition for 27 years, you don't even exist. After firing Rossi, who is left? Celani and McKubre?
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@Jed Rothwell
Addressing Mary Yugo:QuoteSo read them!
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1618
You have just nicely demostrated that CF parallels GANS and has nothing to do with it; EXFOR doesn't report ANY of the people listed in your paper.
I suppose you don't care for that, but some may do, so I am warning all people here about the difference between lenr-canr.org and EXFOR.
It's easy, try to find articles by McKubre or Storms in EXFOR. Let us all know. -
@Peter Ekstrom
QuoteThis is common to all databases - some data will be quite old.
I like it. The first paper on DD archived in BNL is by J. H. Manley, 1946, the last one by M. Drosg, 2015.
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@Eric Walker
QuoteIs that so nobody gets any crazy ideas when looking at data that haven't been vetted?
Nobody should begin a scientific research without scanning all vetted data contained in reliable databases, like the one reported by Peter Ekstrom. It spares time and money. First study, then laboratory. BNL con offer you anything you need on nuclear science. -
@Jed Rothwell
Jan15, 2011 - "http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-[email protected]/msg41364.html"The person who designed and implemented the calorimetry is a distinguished expert on that subject, and former president of the Italian Chem. Soc.
Several other professors took part in the test.As far as I can remember, no Italian chemists have ever been involved in Focardi/Rossi's affair nor in cold fusion. It typically involved physicists.
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@Peter Ekstrom
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I hope all friends in the Forum will visit the site carefully. It is really good. -
@Jed Rotwell
Last EXFOR Update:
July 01, 2016
less than two months (May 5, 2016) -
@Peter Ekstrom
Just in the website you have quoted
http://www.nuclear.lu.se/engli…ear-physics/nuclear-data/
they also refer to the databases of BNL.
Have you been able to find the acronyms LENR and CANR? I don't think so. Anyway, let us know, thank you. -
@Peter Ekstrom
Quoteheavy-ion reactions producing super-heavy elements at low energy, resulting in few free nucleons in the exit channel.
You are right.
Karl Heinrich Lieser (TH Darmstadt)
Nuclear and Radiochemistry: Fundamentals and Applications
VCH 1997
Page 287:
Fusion of heavy nuclides with closed nucleon shells with ions of medium atomic numbers (e.g. 2 = 24 to 32) under conditions of low excitation (“cold fusion”).
Another cold fusion is the muonic one.
Page 93:
Finally, another interesting aspect should be mentioned: it is expected that in muonic molecular ions reactions between nuclei are favored, because of their smaller
distance apart, for instance [omissis]. This kind of reactions would offer the possibility of fusion at relatively low temperatures (“cold fusion”) of about 10^3 °K in contrast to “hot fusion” at about 10^8 °K. -
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Now you check your EXFOR database and find nothing of dark energy.
Of course. Exfor stands for "Experimental Nuclear Reactions Data". Reactions must be experimental, not virtual or Gedankenexperimente. When dark energy will be experimental you'll find the related reactions, if any, in exfor. Databases are useful when day are deeply specialised. Do a cold nuclear reaction and you'll find it in exfor.
In IAEA Nuclear Data Services there are many sections which you should be interested In.
http://www-nds.indcentre.org.in/ -
Eric Walker
QuoteChanges in weak-interaction decay rates in response to changes in the chemical environment, brought about by human beings with parents and maybe children as well.
Haïssinsky (1957)
La Chimie Nucléaire et ses Applications.
page 93:
9. Influence de l'état chimique
What you have found is well known; you can find it in a nuclear handbook dated 1957.Quotesuppose you have a nuclide unstable against electron capture or beta decay. What in your estimation will happen if there is a momentary surge in electron density?
We are not allowed to estimate; we can only read experimental findings. If you are interested, I can find the examples where the chemical environment can influence beta events a bit. -
@Jed Rothwell
QuoteObviously they are not all archived, because cold fusion is a nuclear reaction but it is not archived. It could not be archived in any case, because no one understands the nature of the reaction well enough to fit it into a standard database yet.
At least five lenr-canr are certainly archived in your mind. Let Mary Yugo and me know them.QuoteYou prove only that the people who compile the database don't believe it exists.
I prove that GANS doesn't believe in cold fusion. The database EXFOR is GANS.
Let me joke:
outside exfor there is no salvation. -
@Eric Walker
QuoteI take an opportunity to link to the Wikipedia article on electron capture.
I take the opportunity to inform you that weak interactions are only spontaneous processes, present in all beta decays. You can't get it artificially, but in huge experimental sets. Cross sections of weak interactions are around 10^-25 barn.
You should read something about weak force. -
@Mary Yugo
QuoteIf you want to contradict that, please start by naming a single best paper (not, as you usually do, a snowstorm of dozens) and then show where this has been replicated by someone qualified in a conventional science and associated with a credible major institution (cite the second paper).
I have already promised to investigate five lenr by means of exfor, where all nuclear reactions are archived. For each of them I will find the excitation function and other relevant data.
Perhaps not JR but somedody else will answer your and my challenge. -
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it wasn't my intention to jump into a forum to convince its users that they are wrong. It would have been unfair, to say the least.
Unfair? A Forum is only useful when scams and errors are put in evidence. If I quote Mizuno writing:
the electrons combine with protons to form neutrons.
and I comment that Mizuno is wrong I am only doing my duty.QuoteTherefore the LENR subject affects everyone's life, including the future generations.
Do you think I am unfair if I consider this phrase bombastic, considering that LENR doesn't belong to GANS?