QuoteJust as you will when CF mystery is Solved.
CF mystery was solved in 1-4 May 1989 in Baltimore. It wasn't a mystery, but an episode of incompetence and delusion.
QuoteJust as you will when CF mystery is Solved.
CF mystery was solved in 1-4 May 1989 in Baltimore. It wasn't a mystery, but an episode of incompetence and delusion.
QuoteAnd that is a failure of them, not Jed.
You can't seriously compare lenr-canr.org with IAEA Nuclear Data Services! If you consider that JR's collection is not contained in the IAEA database, you can understand how irrelevant cold fusion is. This is not an opinion, this is a fact.
@Eric Walker
QuoteAre you succeeding? Are your assertions here and there advancing your purpose? Are you influencing anyone?
I fear that nobody in Italy reads this forum. I was successful in the Alberto Carpinteri affair, as I first discovered it.
It is possible that some in this forum did not know the international nuclear databases, so I hope that somebody has appreciated their extent and completeness.
I hope that from now on people here prefer to consult the IAEA or BNL nuclear data base than lenr-canr.org .
IH Fanboy
QuoteThis speaks to a failure of the broader scientific community, not to a problem with Jed's collection. Jed has done us all a favor by collecting and curating very important information.
I certainly agree with you that Jed Rothwell is a diligent librarian. But the "broader scientific community" clearly doesn't appreciate his commitment.
Quoteknowledge here is desired, pure dogma is not so welcome.
It is only basic electrochemistry. I can add for you that in the conditions described by Iwamura nothing happens; the current in the cell is zero.
QuoteAnother really stupid comment. So scientific papers on dark energy and dark matter is garbage? Or do you find nuclear reactions related to dark matter in your precious databases?
As a chemist who opposes cold fusion I am only interested in nuclear reactions.The title reads: IAEA Nuclear Data Services. Maybe somebody can offer you information about databases on dark matter. I know nothing about that item, so please don't ask me, ask rather physicists.
@Jed Rothwell
QuoteThe term "LENR" is not widely used in peer-reviewed journals. Look for "cold fusion" instead.
In nuclear science cold fusion means something different from lenr or canr. Very interesting cold fusion is made in Darmstadt, Germany. Cold fusion is also the muonic fusion. Nothing to do with lenr or canr "reactions" you have so carefully collected.
@ostla
QuoteWhen science has agreed upon the theory, you will find reports in your precious nuclear databases.
Precious databases non only for me, but even for you. How could you do science without databases?
After 27 years of frantic activities cold fusion is only present in Jed Rothwell's collection. A very poor result.
QuoteLENR belongs to the set of socio-psychological myths which sustain the economy of our present world.
First of all we need a formal scientific recognition of the acronym LENR which only exists in the cf world described by Jed Rothwell. Have you ever found that acronym elsewhere?
I see that we are interested in different aspects of the many-sided world of cold fusion. I only care the scientific side; you prefer to care the socio-psychological side. Being a chemist I am in no way interested in your socio-psychological considerations, sorry.
@Jed Rothwell
QuoteAs I said, experiments are the only standard of truth in science, not the the presence or absence of information in a library.
Library? They are nuclear databases.
Do you know the difference between a database and a library? lenr-can.org is a library,
http://www-nds.indcentre.org.in/exfor/exfor.htm
http://www-nds.indcentre.org.in/
are databases, where all nuclear experiments are collected.
You can rely on nuclear experiments only if they are reported in Exfor (Experimental Nuclear Reaction Data), managed by IAEA and BNL. No articles in your collection are reported there. Unfortunately voodoo science, not only nuclear, is present everywhere in web. One must be very careful and selective.
I regret, but as no articles in your collection are reported in acknowledged database, your collection should be considered scientific garbage.
QuoteAnd if so, then why cannot a modest number of reduced Cs or Sr atoms on migration into the surface of solid electrode be similarly protected... for example, by a noble metal such as palladium?
The interface is solution of Cs+ and Sr++/palladium. Cs+ and Sr++ can't be reduced on palladium from an aqueous solution. From other solutions things may be different. For example I have been able to reduce Pu ions solved in DMSO. Chemistry must be left to chemists.
Don't worry, Y. Iwamura papers are not present even in Japanese nuclear database. Spend some time looking for his papers there. Everybody would be grateful if you find at least one paper. Of course I can't exclude that possibility. I don't know all nuclear papers by Iwamura.
QuoteThe acronym appears many times in the request of the US House to the Secretary of Defense (1). That suffices.
That suffices only to the believers. For the GANS it is as if they were requesting information about the Holy Graal. Lenr and canr are acronyms you can only find in the cf literature, not in GANS. I would be glad being contradicted.
Quoteyou know nothing about proton decay which may play a key role in LENR as indicated by the presence of muons and kaons in LENR reactions as discovered by Holmlid.
Yes, I know nothing about that stuff. Is it serious? I can recover. I hope that Holmlid will be successful in his research.
@Jed Rothwell
Quote
You would replace this with the judgement of a librarian.
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It has always been real, and it will remain real long after the IAEA and BNL have turned to dust and are forgotten. It will remain true after our species goes extinct.
As you like it. I acknowledge that you consider a library the most important nuclear database in the world. I can help you. Query the site and you'll see that it doesn't look like a village library.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/
Ascoli65.
QuoteSo, why do you write here on LENR-forum?
I am trying to fight voodoo science.
Do you know who first launched the acronyms LENR CANR? I can only remember that Lino Daddi introduced them in an email many years ago. I think they are an American invention (McKubre, Storm?). They do not exist in GANS; but I can't bet about their absence.
QuoteAs I told you many times, it's impossible to judge the CF affair on the basis of the usual scientific criteria.
I fully disagree. Usual scientific criteria are the sole background for any scientific progress. Who is interested in nuclear reactions must begin with the ten or twenty papers dealing with one specific reaction; only after an accurate bibliographic research the researcher can offer his contribution, if he can. If you look at the bibliographies of papers on cold fusion you will be appalled: you can't find any paper taken from the Generally Accepted Nuclear Science. Poor bibliography, poor content.
QuoteThis is valid for the real science, but not for the popular science, which very often coincides with wishful science.
Jed Rothwell cares of popular science, IAEA an BNL don't. In the end popular science will disappear, even if it seems to be conditioning strategic political choices.
Don't forget that the acronym LENR is unknown in the Generally Agreed Nuclear Science; it has been invented by some cold fusionist (who? who knows).
As you know, I am only interested in Italian side of cold fusion. If Movimento 5* wins next elections we must worry. It's a pity that in Italy politics interferes with the scientific dynamics, which could be heavily conditioned by mere political choices.
QuoteThis is valid for the real science, but not for the popular science, which very often coincides with wishful science.
Jed Rothwell cares of popular science, IAEA an BNL don't. In the end popular science will disappear, even if it seems to be conditioning strategic political choices.
Don't forget that the acronym LENR is unknown in the Generally Agreed Nuclear Science; it has been invented by some cold fusionist (who? who knows).
As you know, I am only interested in Italian side of cold fusion. If Movimento 5* wins next elections we must worry. It's a pity that in Italy politics interferes with the scientific dynamics, which could be heavily conditioned by mere political choices.
Quotehelp rid science of pathological skeptics
I agree, science mustn't be a matter of personal opinion. That's why I only refer to acknowledged data banks and largely diffused textbooks. IAEA and BNL can't cheat me... at least I hope so!
QuoteIt would be wrong only if you can cite the name of a forum which presently is more important than this on the LENR subject.
If so, you are saying that less than a hundred people in the world are interested in cold fusion. Among them very few physicists and chemists. DoD or whichever should ask DoE or BNL, which is the acknowledged US archive of nuclear science. Science is not a matter of democracy or public mood. Cold fusion must only be settled among scientists as any other scientific question. Putting it in the parliamentary "question time" is preposterous and largely ridiculous: I am referring to Italy as you know. We should fight together against this Italian trend towards blending science and politics. Science is able to choose its targets without any external help or lobbying, isn't it.
Jed Rothwell is asking for more support to cold fusion; I would respectfully say, let the scientists as a whole decide where to put time and public money.