Remember, these Q Pulses don't matter much if the nickel is not properly conditioned.
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Countless inventors have claimed high levels of output from all sorts of exotic alleged energy production technologies. However, absolutely undeniable and practically useful results are what matter. Milliwatts from electrets with a permanent electric field pushing electrons around, tiny quantities of excess torque from magnet motors manipulating the BH curve, repetitive demonstrations of "cold electricity" making light bulbs flicker wildly, wildly shaped geometric coil windings making permanent magnets spin, flyback current bringing "dead" lead acid batteries back to life, a few stray watts of thermal power from low temperature palladium-deuterium electrolytic systems: even if they did demonstrate a "real" anomalous effect they aren't immediately useful towards solving the world's energy issues. This planet needs one or more breakthrough solutions that are capable of being implemented in the near term.
The high powered Ni-H technology -- which me356 still allegedly promises to share openly with the replicator community at some point -- is the closest technology fitting the description of being truly paradigm shattering, industry busting, and economy shaking. We need portability, high temperatures, and power density. If me356 hasn't been making gross measurement errors or flat out lying to us, which I doubt, he may be the individual who provides the recipe that can ignite the LENR revolution.
None of them have kilowatts of output power that I'm aware of.
When they produce the high power densities of the Rossi Effect I would pay attention. Until then, they are irrelevant, IMO.
Me356 is the REAL player to watch, IMO.
The emissary of the prophets took care of that pah-wraith infected cardassian long ago. Although Worf should have been allowed to avenge the death of Judzia.
Personally, I'm looking forward to species mimicking any of these fictional civilizations (except the Borg) coming and taking over. I wouldn't really have a problem with the Ferengi straightening out things on Earth. We can't do much worse than we already have.
Personally I don't believe any of that. In a high pressure system like we have here at 0.5 barA, the mean free path of a created monatomic hydrogen ion (it will not be neutral) is a micron or less. So, any monatomic hydrogen must be created right where it is needed. Piantelli tells that a properly created Ni surface catalytically splits H2 into H+ and H- ions adsorbed onto its surface - I believe that is a key. Since the Li-Al-H liquid metal hydride is coating the Ni in the fuel I am using, the hydrogen must be supplied through the hydride. Piantelli implicates the H- anion in the LENR reaction and the liquid Li-Al-H is an ionic hydride with the H being specifically an H- anion! Molten Li will not wet to Ni. Molten Li-Al will wet to Ni. This metal has a high surface tension, so it is important that the Ni is first properly prepared so that the high surface tension Li-Al-H liquid metal will wet to it. Once that happens, the H2 goes variably into the Li-Al-H hydride and the molten metal presents the needed H- anion to the Ni surface for the reaction.
You are right in that a monatomic hydrogen ion won't exist long in a high pressure environment. However, if you are supplying a frequency which excites the contents of the reactor and is producing tons of ions -- even close to the nickel surface -- some of those should ping the nickel. Me356 showed a set of pictures of the same reactor with the same total input power. With the frequencies -- their nature undisclosed -- to the resistor turned on the stainless steel tube leading to the reactor glowed bright hot for a couple of inches. When the frequencies were turned off, only the reactor itself glowed. He claimed to be able to turn the excess heat on and off at will by the application of these frequencies.
So you don't think electromagnetic stimulation, to produce atomic hydrogen or associated ions, has any impact at all, whatsoever?
I too have some reasons to believe that the hydrogen desorption aspect might be crucial; ultimately leaking or admitting it should accomplish the same job. Admitting it is probably more direct and efficient, however. Perhaps some limitations of the system could be circumvented with lower efforts with a reversible hydride for H storage only in a separately controlled reactor section in order to allow a hydrogen flow over the presumably active fuel independently of its temperature.
Me356 flat out stated that he believed controlling the rate of atomic hydrogen (if your nickel was properly conditioned) was the key to producing high outputs and setting your COP at whatever you desire. One way of producing atomic hydrogen is by applying a frequency to your resistors that can dissociate the H2 and ionize the hydrogen gas inside the reactor. Secondly, he pointed out how the gas emitted from LiAlH4 or the decomposition of LiH is in the atomic form. So by cycling up and down in temperature and allowing the LiH to form and decompose over and over, you could produce atomic hydrogen repeatedly and produce a high COP.
Hurling insults is an especially sickening idea when all of these parties -- regardless if they are observing truly anomalous phenomena -- have glass windows. No one seems to be totally innocent and pure as the rain driven snow. Although it can be challenging especially when emotions are heightened, we're all much better off to objectively examine the technologies themselves -- separating them from the inventors.
Thanks for producing the diagram. Can you do the same with the drawings on the right of what I'm guessing are control boxes or a mirrored image of a single control box?
If very well done calorimetric readings are performed -- Rossi has also said that they found a way to keep the Quark on continuously -- then they should tell us if the COP really is as high as these initial tests suggest.
The point is that with a COP of 22,000, even if Rossi is off by a certain margin it really doesn't matter! Once you get past a COP of lets say 100 you start getting into a zone of diminishing returns.
Can anyone try to clear up these images just a little more? There is some tiny writing that is still too blurry to read.
The circuit diagram is interesting.
Nickel wire/powder exposed to H2 in a heated environment can undergo nuclear reactions. (For example, the basic Focardi/Piantelli work.)
Me356 and others seem to suggest nickel wire/powder exposed to H2 which is undergoing electromagnetic stimulation to produce atomic hydrogen and ions can produce more intense quantities of excess heat. (For example, the radio frequency generators in the reactors of the first one megawatt plant, piggy backing RF frequencies onto an external heating resistor, or tuning your input frequency to the resonance frequency of your resistor to produce powerful current spikes.)
The Quark seems, on the surface, to take this basic concept to the next level -- bombarding bare protons onto the nickel cathode with significant kinetic energy. Although there could be exotic effects in the plasma, I find it likely the majority of the effect takes place (at least initially) at the cathode. If this is correct...
X quantity of electrons may be produced by thermionic emission from the nickel being heated to a high temperature by the nuclear reactions.
X quantity of electrons may be produced directly via the nuclear reactions at the cathode like Ed Storms observed in his glow discharge experiments.
X quantity of electrons may be produced by emissions from the cathode such as perhaps low level gamma traveling through to the tube and ionizing gas.
So here are three possible mechanisms that summed up could possibly account for the excess number of electrons produced. These excess electrons would then add to the current running through the tube to the anode. Obviously, a result of this increased current would be a higher magnitude of heat, light, and output amperage. The use of a highly conductive material like graphene -- maybe deposited on the anode -- could help maximize the output of the overall reactor by increasing the number of electrons captured.
The Quark is brilliant, but super duper simple in theory; conversely, preparing the nickel cathode so it can be "active" (just like how virtually all nickel fuel used in all Ni-H experiments must be prepared) could require tedious, precise, and careful work.
I bet Me356 could build a Quark X tomorrow since he understands the optimal nickel processing methods -- if he so desired.
This patent seems to be somewhat similar to the Quark. Except instead of glow discharge, it seems like Rossi used an arc discharge in a very small volume. The result was an enormous amount of power in a tiny volume that even beats the claims of Black Light Power.
You simply can't beat the power density or the simplicity of the Quark. If further third party testing verifies the results that have been reported, this is a simply phenomenal technology. Basically, it takes the original core of the Rossi Effect, stream lines it, and makes it as powerful as possible.
First of all, can someone make sure we have the highest quality version?
Secondly, can anyone run the image through some processing to correct for the blur so we can make out more of the words and numbers?
Thirdly, once the blur has been corrected, is it possible for us to reconstruct the information on the board in a clearer format?
None of Negan's elect ever pushes boundries on this forum. If they call other users cockroaches, vermin, knuckle heads, know-nothings, new agers, or a wide range of other names then, you know what, they must be right. Since Negan has elevated them to such a position -- because they are even more like Negan than even we are -- they must have special knowledge we don't. And if they want to keep emotion high and the atmosphere toxic, then they must have a very valid reason because Negan's wisdom runs through their veins. We should all just accept that as servants of Negan, we should be grateful for their reproof and correction.
It has been brought to my attention that a Facebook user by the name of Matias Mattsson has posted an image of Rossi at a white board, apparently discussing the Quark.
Can anyone who is good at image processing clear up the image so all of the writing and drawings are capable of being read/understood?
I'm very interested in the circuit diagram. Can anyone try to make some sense of it?
what are negans and saviors?
We are all Negan. You are Negan. You just don't know it yet.
Negan is the leader of the Saviors, a group that has survived the zomb.... LENR apocalypse. Obey Negan, follow his commandments, accept his way as the only way, and conform your mind to his mind and he'll provide protection from the outside world. Because you really won't like the alternative. Lucille, Negan's ban hammer, doesn't tolerate any opposition.
Work long enough for Negan as a slave, and you may be just move up in the ranks after you've proven yourself as being 100% Negan, inside and out. Until then, accept that everything you have belongs to him, everyone around you belongs to him, and there is absolutely no reason to oppose him.
Do you think that intimidations and threats will make your tidying up easier?
And remember you are in the playground here... so what is it you want to tell sifferkoll?
Negan always follows through. It is what allows him to keep order in the Savior compound and hold together his glorious community.
I am Negan.
As Negan, I accept that some users in the Savior compound have a right to mock, belittle, insult, and call other users names while others do not. This is the new of life that all must accept
As someone who is allowed to reside at the Savior compound, I do not question Negan's willingness to apply differential treatment. This is the aftermath of the LENR Apocalypse. Not all users are created equal under Negan. Although I am Negan, I do not make Negan's decisions for him.
If we do not pay proper tribute to Negan, we risk the threat of his ban hammer, which is clearly visible in the above image.
Dear Eric Walker
Just to remind you that you have not banned
Jed Rothwell and, especially, Dewey Weaver for some very nasty offenses and ugly wording.
(I can send you a collection)
I ask you to be fair and impartial- it comes a very
eventful week- look please to Doc 226 for a start.
With IHFB travelling, Riri and the Other troll banned, me having to write a LENR info blog-
LENR Forum can organize a polyphonic chorus of IH faithfuls.
The attractivity of the forum will suffer.
Certain have earned the privileged -- in the eyes of moderation -- of mocking other users and calling them vermin, cockroaches, know-nothings, knuckle heads, new agers, and an assortment of other names. Everyone here must accept it and move on. Seriously, the moderation has the right to selectively enforce whatever policies they desire. None of us should comment or criticize them for differential treatment: there are no set and standard rules of conduct on LENR Forum. None. Zip. Zero. We should just verbally repeat to ourselves the worst insults we can imagine to desensitize ourselves or leave of our own accord.
Do you watch, "The Walking Dead?"
We have to accept we are all Negan for as long as we post here.