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guy looks like David Feherty from the
I of course could not presume to know who is right or wrong in this dispute, regarding whether the ECat really works or not. However, it does seem quite strange that there should be such extreme polarization of opinion. Rossi is claiming (since at least 2011), that he has built a 1 MW reactor. He claims that it operated some 350 days during the IH test period, producing this level of power, for a customer that was using a large fraction of the power for an industrial process. He claims that measurements were made daily showing the power produced. But that he did not take pictures...never takes pictures. And IH people say that the thing does not work.
Now I have about 35 years of experience as an engineer, and have been through many qualification tests with customers to demonstrate that the products of the companies I worked for performed according to their specifications. We take pictures of everything. Provide very detailed drawings of test setups. Make, model, serial number, calibration date of any test equipment used. Wiring diagrams, mechanical drawings of test jigs, whatever is needed to make sure our customer knows exactly what test was performed. Often, we do things together with the customer, so that they can see exactly how it is done. Sometimes they bring their own measuring equipment. I suppose that because of this approach, there is almost never any dispute about whether the product works according to spec or not. And this kind of detail is common for products that have a cost sometimes of less than 1 million dollars. How much more one would expect this when $100 million dollars is at stake!
So again, I do not know who is right and who is wrong. But it is not exactly a positive picture to the "outside world" when a major, respected player in the cold fusion community, such as Rossi, is making the sort of claims he is making for over 7 years, and receiving money from investors, and yet does not seem to be willing or able to put together the sort of carefully documented and witnessed engineering testing that would end the dispute.
Rossi is a pathological liar, cheat and a fraud
LENR may yet prove to be what it has been portrayed to be, but Rossi will NOT be the deliverer.
Could anyone here point me to a picture of the naked Quark reactor that I have seen circulated in the past? I am seriously thinking that in at least some circumstances he uses permanent magnets to help produce spheromaks and create a magnetic trap that will keep them in the center column. This would allow him with every pulse to collide large numbers of spheromaks that are emitted from the cathode. From the demonstration in Stockholm, it sure looks like there is plenty of room to incorporate a permanent magnet either at either end or one or more rings around the center. There are multiple ways to configure such magnets, but I'm interested if there is any evidence that such magnets may be used.
What would all of the supposed excess heat do to these magnetic fields?
To be precise, he says he is working with ABB.
just like he said he was working with National Instruments, Siemens etc.
All this means is that Rossi may have bought a contactor, pushbutton or limit switch from ABB.
I am still excited about the process you and your friends invented, and this has nothing to do with what you are about to launch, but...
what if I told you of someone I know, who could turn organic waste (tires, wood, plastics, etc.) into oil, gas, coal, solvents, and gold and silver? Yes, I said gold and silver. Metals. Valuable metals. From biological waste?
What I’m realky looking for is a process that can change nickel to copper,
If I had that, it would really be something.
Same late 'olms on the monitor:
December 31, 2017 at 6:54 AM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
I read yesterday on this blog about your theoretical work with Gullstrom: I am very impressed.
The Stockolm event has given us evidence of the progress you made in these last two years.
Godspeed for the 2018,
January 6, 2018 at 2:17 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations for the convincing test of Stockolm.
Have you thought to sell the Ecats also by internet?
Dear Valery, E-Cats can be ordered by Internet right now, of course.
Renewable clean energy is a high growth industry.
Andrea Rossi / Leonardo Corporation is the owner of the LENR (low energy nuclear reaction) Ecat (Energy Catalyzer) IP and its manufactured products.
1 MW Warm Ecat Producer of renewable, carbon neutral hot water and steam at 100-120 degrees Celsius.
Applications: Industrial heating and air-cooling/conditioning.
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ECAT 1MW Units
The plant consists of 4 modules. The plant is recharged by specially trained and certified personnel. Pre-orders are accepted from all over the world and require a routine due-diligence process. Customers must comply with several criteria set by Leonardo Corporation in order to qualify for a purchase of a ECAT 1MW plant.
And good NEWS! from ecat-tech
ECAT QX Presentation in Stockholm
Comments from Mats Lewan, Measurements By Eng. William Hurley
Around 70 respectful and engaged participants attended the E-Cat QX presentation in Wallenberg, Sweden.
(the QX refers to new reactor called the Hot cat with claims it reaches much greater temperatures).
- emphasis added by me
So, you can get your E-Cat's, reactor's working with unkown nuclear aka N U C U L A R reactions right now on the Internets.
All made without taxpayers money!
(Ask your local adminstration/government, if it's okay to run NUCULAR things like that in your country
Is there no end to this gullibility ?
- Dirk December 31, 2017 at 6:54 AM
If Rossi had control problems at Doral, then the Penon report is wrong. If the Penon report is right, then Rossi had no control problems. It is either one or the other, yet you seem to believe both, depending on which argument du jour you put forth.
According to the data Penon recorded in his final report, the 1MW worked remarkably well 24/7, for 1 year. It looked almost flawless as the temps/pressure/pump output remained almost constant. That to me says Rossi had *very* good control of the 1MW....am I correct?
Or maybe I am wrong. You are the engineer, so maybe you could tell me where in Penon's report, poor control issues would manifest themselves?
What’s probably closer to the truth is that Penon and Rossi didn’t get their stories straight before answering those questions
Rossi has a long history of this.... throwing out a red herring to his supporters when the "news is slow"! This gives them a little excitement to keep the adrenalin flowing and fodder for endless
discussionspeculation on ECW and buys him time to come up with the next big revolution.
My "top ten" list of Rossi distractions....
1) Gas cat - never seen, never demo'd but certainly much talked about.
2) Jet engines! Aerospace engineer collaborating! Even to this day, is mentioned occasionally.
3) Certifications! Must have them you know. Oh, they were even obtained! Never really states what type and by who. (No, the much talked about SGS was NOT an actual certification.)
4) Sigma 5! Has been achieved! uh.... what exactly? Never stated, never given any details, never by whom or how or what. But it IS Sigma 5! This "HAD" to be accomplished before proceeding!
5) Direct thrust! Yes, time to bring the aerospace engineers back in! Mysterious as they are.
6) Tunable light. Hmmm, while the recent demo did not broach this subject, it was certainly talked about and provided a distraction for quite some time. Even Axil is intrigued by it!
7) Direct electricity production! My, This was a biggie! Yet no evidence and the recent demo only used this as a possible speculation by believers as to why the power supply needed SO much cooling! (Uh. what happened to the Sigma 5 reliability here anyway? )
8. Visions of the night lit up by this wondrous miracle! Hey, we did not get a New Year's vision this year! Anyway, much talk about Rossi's vision of "block grid sized" electrical and light producing eCats that has since faded into memory.... (as most of Rossi's claims)
9) Norman Cook theory and collaboration. Rossi extolled the relationship and virtues.... oh wait... what happened? Never a word more about this partnership but not to worry! A new genius has taken his place! Carl-Oscar Gullström is now the poster boy and what a job he is doing! Oh the Cook days... yes they were exciting indeed.
10) And last in this particular list... when things are slow....and people start to waiver.... and something is needed to inject a little narcotic to get the eCat "high" back... THE ROBOTIC FACTORY! A long time fan favorite and sure to bring a smile on everyone's faces. Surely "mass commercial production" is just around the corner! Talked about for 6 years now.
Now next year, I am sure we can add this "anti-matter" fiasco to the list.
Rossi should have been a televangelist! He could have made his millions and not had to sit in a blue container "16 hours a day"!
Seriously though, Rossi is quite good at this and their is no doubt in my mind, these types of announcements are intentional and quite effective. Rossi seems to truly thrive on adulation from his fan base.
Televangelist is good,
On the other site I suggested Rossi should be selling Amway products,
didn’t go over to good w/moderator
Why is Mats still with Rossi? That is the most puzzling question left in this tale.
Mata is “All In” with Rossi now, he simply cannot back down from his belief that Rossi has what he says he has.
Like most of the believers on that side of the ledger, they consider themselves relatively smart people and in no way, shape or form could they ever be hoodwinked by a scam artist, so, they believe what they are told to believe, no questions, no demands for proofs other than what Rossi offers them.
Have a read of this thread from almost 7 years ago!
Check out Roger Barker in action.
that was November 2011 that he would have Ecats for sale in the US?
This was definitely my big laugh for the day. It's not that the Ecat people said this as nothing they say surprises me since I know the Ecat has never worked. What was funny is that some people seem to actually believe this. What's next? That there is a mini black hole in the Ecat?
He predicted excess heat,
why not anti matter?
1. Much blustering and Sabre Ratteling threats of war from North Korea
2. Venezuelan government falls
3. “Brexit” continues, no one notices
4. Rockwell Int’l. is finally sold.
5. US gdp finishes 2018 at 3.8%
6. Rossi says “blah, blah, blah”.
7. American president continues to be “roasted” by global media.
8. I will retire
If you were critical of Rossi’s “demo”,
He would not invite you back to future
I understand why you would not voice any objections or ask any questions Rossi would be hard pressed to answer.
But if this is how you are going to move forward with Rossi/Ecat, what makes you different than every other Rossi yes man?
Yes, in strength. And being very sociable and optimistic. The other financial questions - I have no knowledge of who paid for what -but I suspect that this was mostly on Rossi's dollar.
Did you ask any of the Hydrofusion group how many Evats they have sold in Europe?
Even that is untrue.
There is no need for a 1 ohm shunt resistor. In this hypothetical case the QX input power would be much lower and the COP (if you care about it) much higher.
I have not taken much part in this thread because the data released is so bad. It proves nothing, except that Rossi's demos have got even less convincing. Never before has he not even pretended to measure input power.
AAMOI - how is this being spun on ECW? Do they manage to see this demo as something positive for Rossi? I don't read ECW much since they banned me for polite facts.
I post there often,
The Usual Suspects, (you know them all),
still believe what they are told,
However, a rather significant amount are beginning to see Rossi for what he is.
What really surprises me is the lengths they will go to dreaming up excuses and explanations for his failures, it would almost even amusing if it were not so sad.
On the presentation sheets we see:
I = U/R
P = U*I
P = R*I²
800 * 0,25² = 50W
According to my humble knowledge:
U = R * I
U = 800 ohms * 0,25A = 200V
Of course, Dott. Rossi didn't want Mr. Lewan or anybody to touch anything
Lethal voltage starts at 60V DC
Was the wire insulation large enough to protect for 200 volts
I posted on ECW for several years. First as a "RossI believer" but with reservations.
Over time, my opinion changed. I then start posting very infrequently, often only on new subjects that were "really a stretch". My posts almost always were simply quoting, with link, to a Rossi quote and then asking what the status was. Such as "Rossi posted a plant was sold on... what is the status of this." I would sometimes put up a series of Rossi quotes and then asked for an explanation of why they appeared to be false.
About 4 months ago, I made reply to a post and received a notice that either my browser was malfunctioning or I had been banned from the site.
I sent Frank a private email and he responded privately that I indeed had been banned by him and the reason was that it was clear I did not believe in the eCat or Rossi and the ECW was for believers only. I had received no warnings. I can assure you that my posts were always without personal insult and were simply quoting Rossi. I posted there under "Guest" user but always signed by posts with Bob, as I do here, my real name. I do not know if you can search a users post at ECW or not, but I encourage it as I am not ashamed of any posts I made there.
THH says he was banned and he also is very polite and fact based. Frank made it clear to me that the governing decision he uses is if one believes Rossi and if posts made will argue that fact. At least he was very forthright in his private response to me. I can accept that. It is his website and he can do as he pleases.
I only commented back to him that he should make that policy very clear.
I do believe censoring fact based postings are unfortunate though and I have no further interest in ECW. You will not get the complete picture from information on that site.
Frank does have the following under the commenting guidelines tab of ECW:
"The following types of comments are subject to moderation:
- Comments that state openly or by implication that LENR/cold fusion/E-Cat is a fraud or hoax" (Emphasis mine)
However, he did more than moderate, he banned me. But enough of this I guess, it is a bit off topic.!
I have never been a Rossi believer, however, when first introduced to it in January, 2011,
I was certainly intrigued enough to follow it.
However, within the first 12 months it was obvious to me that he had absolutely no intent to follow the scientific method to prove his assertions.
It is my humble opinion that Andrea Rossi is a flat out con man.
Rossi put out the bait yet again. Now, he will ensconce himself in his Miami condo and sip mint juleps and wait to see if anyone bites. In the meantime, he is going to continue the cloud of bovine feces he has always emanated from his idiotic and misnamed blog, JONP. I doubt he can resist doing that. Maybe, like someone famous we know, he will discover Twitter? I really hope some of the information that has been relayed by various people to local prosecutorial authorities is eventually acted upon. I'd love to see that man in court and in prison (again).
Thanks for the history. But to paraphrase Barnum, new suckers are born every minute.
I don’t care if he goes to prison, suckers are born every minute and if they are foolish enough not to do their due diligence and then to get taken by a con man, oh well.
However, I would absolutely love to see him in court and watch him uncomfortably twist and turn, clench his jaw, gnash his teeth, mumble and stumble in a witness chair while being asked yes or no questions prepared by an engineer.
Now THAT is a show I would buy tickets for
It could certainly be intentionally "flawed". At least we can be sure not all information was revealed. The reason for this could be argued from any direction I suppose. So I don't understand you point here otherwise than having a personal opinion. Seems like you try to cover all exits...
All witnesses however seems to agree there were potential investors/partners lining up to meet with Rossi, so in that respect and according to general sentiment from witnesses it does not seem at all that flawed. So in that respect it doesn't really matter you arguing something happened that did not happen here, or?
There was not a single notice of any investor
at the demo.
No one had name tags on and the guest list was not published, how do you know who was there and what they were there for?
If you know who was there please advise
My guess is that these guests were friend of the program.
Waveform measured where? When?
Whatever the waveform was,
Shouldn’t The meter have the capability of measuring and calculating the area under the voltage and current waves doing the integration and coming up with power used?
Your guess is entirely right, since (you may have noticed) there were 70 people there, and quite a few were still waiting in line to talk with Rossi hours after the demo finished. And he was only available on that day. The whole event was tightly managed. I had a chance to talk with Fulvio Fabiani, but we were discussing E-Cats. Some helpful info for replicators there, which needs to be sorted out.
not a guess Alan,
After 7 years of this charade, can anyone anywhere believe anything this guy presents? I do not.
I called it right just before you left, he controlled the audience, the presentation, the test, the results and the questioning.
Now maybe you’re not a Rossi stooge
But you were not allowed to verify anything
Or even ask questions, Rossi made sure of that, you were simply window dressing,
a credible source to add credibility where there is absolutely none.
He could have stayed for days answering questions but he didn’t, why not?
(It’s rhetorical, please don’t answer).
Nothing conclusive, same old Steaming raft of turd from senor Rossi.
Yet still his minions line up to applaud him
and dream up myriad excuses for his failures.
Rossi always seeks false associations with major universities and companies. He did it and was repudiated by U of Bologna, Upsalla, National Instruments, Philips, NASA maybe, and others I forget. It's a classical hallmark of free energy scams-- yet another that Rossi adopts. Along with meaningless certifications from agencies that allow self-certification. I am sorry nobody asked Rossi how the "certificators" he has had working with him since 2012 are doing with his original ecats and megawatt plant. Seems like the species of certificators we have these days suffers a lot of inertia. Come to think of it, nobody asked Rossi hard questions or if they did, the microphones were not in use so nobody heard them. Typical.
Allen indicates that he would NOT
be a Rossi stooge, let’s wait to see what he returns with and if he in fact asked difficult questions and Rossi, plainly,
(not in Rossi Speak), answered them
My guess is no, I might be wrong
but I don’t think so, (“Charles Barkley”).
We are well beyond measurement error. This is either fraud or real.
And your 1 word opinion?
Fraud or real?
Not what you want it to be, but what you really beilieve it is?
Fraud or real?
Well, you start off admitting the weakness of your upstairs HE arguments, and then go on to dig a deeper hole. Yes, you can "comprehend details" others can not, but that does not mean your comprehension is perfect.
You have made other good points, that I thought were very impressive in light of what you have to work with.
Ask IHFB to explain The heat stressed tree theory,
then you will succumb to his logic
I do not know how many times we have to say this for you to finally acknowledge it, but the "naysayer crew" would be very happy were Rossi to have something. If that turns out to be the case, IH becomes friendly fire casualty, and I personally will switch from attack mode, to rewriting his image from conman, to eccentric genius.
Then we can all debate why the hell he chose to be so dishonest, when all along he had something? Why he made up so much stuff about factories/customers, salted Kullander's fuel ash sample, chose IH over a more suitable engineering company? Why he went through such trouble, and deviousness at Doral when he could done something simpler in NC?
Better yet, we will see the genius of you few remaining Rossi supporters. You stood by your man, and saw things none of us could see....well, better strike that last sentence. Blind luck does not count.
Rossi truly has a product/process that produces more Energy Out > Energy In
Then the entire world, (including me), rejoices in a new world, unparalleled opportunities,
However, and there is always a however axil
You, Adrian, IHFB, Warthog, bachcole et al,
Know the odds of that happening are -1^1/2
But not to worry, for your entertainment this charade of Rossi’s Is going to linger for many many moons, allowing you all to continue to think up excuses for his continual demos, tests, robitized factories,
imaginary customers, fake data etc.
LENR may in fact be real, I hope to see it my lifetime, but Andrea Rossi? Sorry, not gonna happen.
is not the guy to deliver it
Oh yes? Consider the way he misquoted me to put Rossi in the worst possible light. It's what lawyers do to make their point.
If both of you looked a glass half full, you would say it was 1/4 full and IHFB would say it was 5/8 full.
if Rossi measured the glass I would abstain from an opinion.