Daniel_G I appreciate the sentiments and I too am worried about the ARPA-E testing, but I think the LENR community, after all these years, is still struggling even to validate itself without tasking itself with overthrowing the standard model. But it that happens then great!
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I really hope this delivers on the promises. It could change the world massively for the better.
I note the description of the process avoids the use of the terms "cold" and "fusion" or even "LENR", so I will be interested to see how mainstream academia takes it on board as a real and working device.
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Combining Chat GPT and Wolfram Alpha
There is some talk about how Chat GPT and Wolfram Alpha could complement each other.
So this guy (JoeStrout) decided to have a play.
It is interesting to see how Chat GPT can in fact give some very wrong answers and even stick to its guns when the error is presented to it.
But it does look like combining the two would eventually provide a very powerful utility.
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A few thoughts;
Obviously the particle model is useful as far as it goes and not useful in other circumstances, hence the move to quantum field theory.
The journey of reductive science has spanned from our complex everyday world of biology to the more structured world of chemistry and then down to the even more structured world of physics. At each level there seems to be greater simplicity so that an electron can be described by a small set of properties, mass, charge and spin.
This journey implies that increasing simplicity must lead to a base level from which everything arises. Thus the 1940s science fiction fantasies about an atom being a solar system etc are just fantasies.
In respect of the issue of infinity;
As the author says, we can only measure to the limits of our instruments and data. Science has no way to measure any kind of infinity, as far as I am aware.
Infinity seems to be a plaything of mathematicians and therefore manifests through the mathematics that scientists employ.
However there are other approaches to mathematics that have been explored that do not require infinite numbers such as "intuitionist mathematics" see this article from Quanta.
Quanta Does Time Really Flow New Clues Come From Century Old Approach To Math
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OK so I decided to check out the story of the comment in my post above that I read somewhere about Toyota banking on hydrogen cars to help keep Japanese car suppliers in business.
Toyota does indeed have subsidiaries and suppliers that are gearing up for fuel cell production and related EV components.
Toyota is also investing in a hydrogen combustion engine which will be able to fit with some of its long standing ICE component suppliers.
So it looks like Toyota and Japan are indeed aiming to safeguard their car manufacturers business by adapting, in some cases by evolving towards hydrogen fuel-cells but also making a push for hydrogen combustion vehicles.
So the win here is for the Japanese manufacturing base and they can tout hydrogen combustion as "green".
Meanwhile they will get a lot of support from the fossil fuel industry because the main way to make hydrogen is to use natural gas.
Whether this pans out for them remains to be seen.
See this article for example;
Toyota hydrogen combustion engine vehicles.
"Toyota believes that hydrogen can also prove to be useful in combustion engines. The automaker recently demonstrated a custom-built GR Yaris with a hydrogen combustion engine that it has been developing for some time. These events have led to several tier one suppliers deciding to take hydrogen seriously, following in Toyota's footsteps in order to develop technology to stay current in a hydrogen future.
One of these suppliers is BorgWarner, a company that specializes in turbochargers for combustion vehicles. BorgWarner has since branched out past accessories for combustion engines, developing a line of electric drive motors for EVs and other components to ensure that its future is well-footed in when the combustion engine goes mostly extinct. The manufacturer is also launching a complete lineup of accessories for hydrogen combustion motors, according to Automotive News, including fueling components and an engine control unit."
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No this is not the case. Hydrogen cars are fully electric just the accumulator is replaced by a Gas tank that is totally different from a gasoline tank.
Thanks for this.
I saw pictures of hydrogen cars being filled like a petrol car so it sounded plausible that there was some kind of engine involved.
That is the problem with pseudo-authoritative statements from random people on the Internet.
Hydrogen cars produces excess heat what is nice during winter times...
Apart from the "cold-start" issue that Sabine mentions.
She does say that pre-heating systems are being explored as a possible solution, but of course that also uses energy.
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Interesting YouTube video by Sabine explaining the problems with hydrogen.
Sabine Hossenfelder Hydrogen Will Not Save Us.
I had not done too much reading up on hydrogen but had a vague idea that it was not likely to be used in cars but might be useful as a fuel for shipping.
Also the UK has suggested mixing hydrogen in with our domestic piped gas supplies so less natural gas is used.
I suspect that hydrogen leakage would be a serious issue.
I also wonder whether "embrittlement" of the piping would be an issue, or does that only occur when hydrogen is under high pressure.
I had read that Toyota and other Japanese motor manufacturers are big on promoting hydrogen because they think hydrogen fuelled cars will be very similar to petrol vehicles and thus they can preserve their huge web of supply chain partners.
"Because EV’s have a smaller parts count, and the remaining parts lend themselves to mass production, effectively cutting out boutique manufacturers making a single part for a vehicle. The economic consequences of dropping all those mom&pop workshops would be massive (Japan fundamentally has a high skew towards small companies). So hydrogen fuel cell vehicles were a fig leaf attempt to keep Japanese ICE engine parts manufacturers from going bankrupt, and the Japanese government fully understands that their introduced hydrogen requirements are actually a jobs subsidy program in disguise."
According to Sabine;
The Hydrogen Council that promotes hydrogen power was created by the oil and gas industry as they want to make hydrogen using natural gas.
I mentions an analyses that says creating grey hydrogen and blue hydrogen using natural gas. The difference is that blue hydrogen uses carbon capture to make it supposedly “greener”. Then using the hydrogen to generate electricity but is not much different to just using natural gas to generate electricity!!!
Grey and blue hydrogen is cheapest method but does not save us from greenhouse gases.
Green hydrogen created using solar power is inefficient because of fluctuations in availability of solar power, and therefore expensive.
Hard to store hydrogen at several hundred time atmospheric pressure which means heavy storage vessels and the hydrogen diffuses into the casing causing “embrittlement”.
Hydrogen fuel cell generate water which means in cold temperatures if freezes and damages the tubes and membranes of the fuel cell (“cold-start” problem).
The proton exchange membranes need platinum and iridium. These are rare, only sourced from a few countries, and there simply isn’t enough to create a huge hydrogen economy based on fuel cells.
So looks like too many problems with hydrogen for it to be widely adopted and a large part of the push to hydrogen is actually from vested interest groups such as fossil fuel and ICE vehicle manufacturers who are more interested in protecting their bottom line than saving the planet.
I suppose that should not really be a surprise.
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When shall we see the first "working" copy of the device ?
I predict Never!
I also predict this thread will rapidly go downhill, like all the other Rossi threads.
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Interesting study on factors for risk and protection from Covid-19.
Obviously has weaknesses due to the nature of the self reporting of results, interpretation of results, and all the other usual research issues.
Research suggests factors for risk and protection from Covid-19
A new paper in Biology Methods & Protocols, published by Oxford University Press, investigated risk factors and protections against contracting COVID-19, and also for suffering from severe COVID. Researchers identified several characteristics – including male sex, lower age, blood group B, and larger household size – that increased the risk of infection and many other characteristics – including mask-wearing and using vitamin D – that decreased it. They also identified the things that increased or decreased the risk of a severe course of COVID-19. Some of these findings are unexpected.
Researchers here ran a study on 30 thousand internet users, recruiting participants using sites like Facebook and Twitter, in the Czech Republic who shared information about their exposure to 105 risk factors for COVID-19.
Many predictable behaviors appeared to protect people against the infection, while three factors, namely being actively involved in sports, frequent singing, and cold-water swimming, increased the risk of infection. The most substantial protective factor against COVID-19 infection was strict adherence to mask-wearing. The second most substantial protective factor was the consumption of vitamins and supplements. This study found in particular that taking vitamin D provided significant protection against acquiring COVID-19.
Adherence to social distancing and frequent handwashing had only a weak protective effect. This study also indicated that having type B blood increased the risk for COVID-19 infection. Having cats or dogs as pets did not affect the risk of infection and had a mostly insignificant positive effect on the risk of someone experiencing a severe course of the disease.
The study here found that tobacco smoking and also marijuana use (in women) have a relatively strong protective effect against infection. The researchers found that marijuana use and tobacco smoking could also have some protective effects against a severe course of COVID-19. The protective effects of tobacco smoking against infection have been reported in previous studies. However, most studies show adverse effects of smoking on the risk of a severe course of COVID-19.
The most unexpected result of the study was a positive correlation between higher severity of the course of COVID-19 and adherence to wearing masks and respirators and, to a lesser extent, keeping social distance. The investigators speculate this is because people predisposed to a severe course of COVID-19 (those who are overweight, suffer from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or have diabetes) tried hard to avoid infection and more strictly adhered to public health recommendations about masks and social distancing. But when they did become infected, they often had a more severe course of the disease due to their underlying health problems.
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UK ambitious plan for mRNA cancer vaccine with German company BioNTech.
"Unlike chemotherapy, which attacks lots of different cells as well as the cancer, the mRNA treatment is tailor-made for the individual and presents the immune system with bits of genetic code from the specific cancer so it can attack only the tumour.
This makes it more expensive to produce. BioNTech says it will be affordable for healthcare systems. But much more work is needed to determine whether the cost can be justified for the NHS. Being commercially sensitive, the details of the partnership between the Government and BioNTech have not been disclosed."
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ROSSI ANDREA ELECTRIC ENERGY GENERATOR AND ELECTRIC ENERGY GENERATION METHOD
US Pat. No. 7379286 Quantum vacuum energy extraction
Have I got this right?
My understanding (from this forum) is the US Patent Office refuses to patent devices that mention cold fusion but according to this they are happy to patent a device that claims to extract quantum vacuum energy.
This loophole would allow any con-man to get around a patent ban on perpetual motion machines.
How does that make sense?
Hopefully there are no con-men out there who are sneaky enough to try this.
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On this topic;
Quanta have an excellent article on Alzheimer's research.
What Causes Alzheimer’s? Scientists Are Rethinking the Answer. | Quanta Magazine
This shows how the Alzheimer's research community and their funding pipelines became focused on the amyloid cascade hypothesis.
If that hypothesis had been correct then we could have hit the jackpot.
Unfortunately the many failed drug trials suggest that this hypothesis is incorrect or too simplistic.
Among other things science is a social activity and when a science community focuses their efforts on a correct path then things can really progress.
But when they focus on an incorrect path then a lot of time and resources are wasted.
Not only this but the article explains nicely how other research avenues were effectively shut down.
There was no plot or conspiracy to do this.
In some cases young researchers were told by senior figures that Alzheimer's would be solved in a few years so not worth pursuing as a career.
In other cases where researchers had their own, different ideas for research, they found it difficult to convince funding sources given the prevailing view.
Certainly private pharma companies are very resistant to spending billions of dollars on a non-mainstream theory.
So now after decades of trials and billions of dollars spent and so many patients left without a treatment the community is starting to rethink things!!!
Interestingly this was because a community had a persuasive path forward that overshadowed competing theories.
In the case of LENR it is even more difficult because, as far as the mainstream community is concerned, there is not even a problem to solve and LENR does not even exist.
Thankfully, unlike communities such as flat earthers and climate change deniers, science will change under the weight of evidence.
If somebody produced a treatment tomorrow that cured Alzheimer's then the attention and funding would quickly focus on that.
Equally if somebody produces a replicable and verifiable LENR device then attention and funding would quickly focus on that.
I know that Jed and others might say that this already happened decades ago but yet here we are.
[Edit; to be fair to Jed I feel it has to be said that the LENR situation is even worse because the problem is not merely that it is not mainstream but that some senior figures have labelled it as "heretical".]
Here is hoping for great things for LENR in 2023.
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The money was spent, and more spent, because tangible progress was made
Agreed, and they will hype the crap out of it to squeeze as much billions as possible.
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Curbina Sorry if it comes across as sneering, that was not my intention, I was attempting humour.
I am a big fan of BEC and have followed them for many years. They are one of my primary hopes for an LENR breakthrough.
Fact; It would indeed be a nice Christmas present to get some good news from BEC.
Fact; "Quite excited" is a very subjective statement so what I would like, if possible without breaking the NDA, is an idea of how excited we are talking about?
Fact; BEC have been a massive tease for many years. Making hopeful announcements then all going very quite for a long time. Yes I understand that is part of the process and things take time and they need to protect their IP/commercial secrets.
So yes I am excited but experience has tempered my hopes, but my fingers are crossed, which is making it difficult to hold my cup of tea
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That would be a nice Christmas present.
On the "quite excited" scale I am at 11, is that about right?
Having said that BEC have been a massive tease for many years so maybe I will just have a cup of tea and a lie down.
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Way out of my depth here but ...
Route 1; The research results route - "the results of a recent paper in which compelling proof is provided via electron paramagnetic resonance of the existence of the molecular hydrino. This might seem esoteric, but it is a major finding to quantum physicists." That should lead to a Nobel Prize.
Route 2; bring a product to market, Black Light Power founded in 1991 so over 30 years now. I know these things take time but if I was an investor I would not be happy. It would almost seem like he has nothing, or has something but cannot get it to market.
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There are many on this platform with personal theories that do not fit into the mainstream, axil, Wyttenbach, Cherepanov2020 and so on.
Some may be right and some may be wrong and some may be "not even wrong".
But then LENR currently does not fit into the mainstream so such ideas are not out of place here.
Some of the theories may be more rigorous and some may be mostly waffle.
I suspect axil just reads lots of stuff and his brain then connects the dots in line with his inbuilt biases.
But axil is always polite and enthusiastic and thus I cannot see a good reason that he should not be allowed to communicate his views.
Whether people consider his views worthy of engagement or not is up to them.
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Blood thinning drug to treat covid recovery found not to be effective.
A drug used to reduce the risk of blood clots does not help patients recovering from moderate and severe COVID-19, despite this approach being offered to patients, a UK-wide trial, led by Addenbrooke’s Hospital and the University of Cambridge has found.
The HEAL-COVID trial (Helping to Alleviate the Longer-term consequences of COVID-19) is funded by the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) and the Cambridge NIHR Biomedical Research Centre.
To date, more than a thousand NHS patients hospitalised with COVID have taken part in HEAL-COVID, a platform trial that is aiming to find treatments to reduce the number who die or are readmitted following their time in hospital.
In these first results from HEAL-COVID, it’s been shown that prescribing the oral anticoagulant Apixaban does not stop COVID patients from later dying or being readmitted to hospital over the following year (Apixaban 29.1%, versus standard care 30.8%).
As well as not being beneficial, anticoagulant therapy has known serious side effects, and these were experienced by participants in the trial with a small number of the 402 participants receiving Apixaban having major bleeding that required them to discontinue the treatment.
There was also no benefit from Apixaban in terms of the number of days alive and out of hospital at day 60 after randomisation (Apixaban 59 days, versus standard care 59 days).
Following these results, the trial will continue to test another drug called Atorvastatin, a widely used lipid lowering drug (‘a statin’) that acts on other mechanisms of disease that are thought to be important in COVID.
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So how does the Scam Work?
Send me $10,000 and I will tell you how the scam works.
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Thanks for the reply, but good grief, I can see why you are not a sales man and I think you have turned me off LENR
From what you say is there nothing worth publishing or investing in as far as the existing body of LENR is concerned?