Apparently calling Rossi’s activities a scam is troubling to Sam but saying they have no scientific value is fine. If e-Cat “technology” has no scientific value, what sort of value does it have?
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The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it
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It also provides cheap entertainment for quite a few members here.
If you need Rossi to distract your live, that means you are a very sad guy who must have had a life without relief made up of frustrations...
How amazingly perceptive. What else could it possibly mean? Have you considered a career in psychotherapy?
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Time for him to retire and save his fans from wasting what time they have left on this planet.
Undoubtably true, but the only place to follow the story will be ECW and the “Journal of Nuclear Physics”, where his fans will continue to be fed a steady diet of utter BS. I guess that’s their problem.
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Otherwise I do not feel we have a particular duty to society as a whole to continue discussing the affair.
Sometimes we do things to be nice to people, not out of duty.
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Your LF staff have decided to shut down all discussion related to Rossi at the stroke of midnight London time, on 1/1/2022. If new (positive) developments occur after that, we will consider reopening.
We truly regret having to do this, but the demo was of such low scientific value, that we could not in good conscious allow the discussion to continue.
If you disagree with this decision, please speak up, and state your reasoning before the deadline.
Rossi’s activities have had virtually no scientific value for a decade. Nothing about that has changed other than the level of effort he puts into trying to convince people otherwise. Since the demise of Ecatnews, this is the only place where Rossi’s deluded followers are exposed to criticism of their hero’s endless nonsense. By shutting down this discussion, you are condemning them to the prison of their echo chamber at ECW. Now, you can argue that trying to talk some sense into these people is not the mission of LF. That may be true, but it is something of a public service. It also provides cheap entertainment for quite a few members here. But, if you are going to get haughty and stiff-necked about scientific rigor, there are a number of other threads you should consider shutting down for consistency.
Anyway, if this decision holds, so long and thanks for all the fish.
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The Customers who purchase the
SKLep.
Such a pity that there will never be any. Of course, you will simply transfer your conditions to the next non-existent Rossi product. No worries. You should have something new to wait for within six months or so and you have already demonstrated superhuman patience.
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Rossi is quite effective at discrediting himself. Apparently you just can’t see it.
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What doesn’t make sense is how there are only 1100 views of the
Presentation according to You Tube
and Rossi claims to have 100000
orders for the ECatSKLep.
Gee. Must be something wrong with YouTube. /sarcasm
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There would be a lot of people that
would care and word would spread fast if it is proven that the SKLep is
for real.
Undoubtedly true, but in no way an answer to my question. C’mon, what do you actually think?
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Sam, in your estimation, how many people in the world have heard of the SKLep? What percentage of those think it is real and/or care?
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Most here will be angered by this but it is news nonetheless. Note that Bill Gates is involved.
After years of doubts, hopes grow that nuclear fusion is finally for real and could help address climate change - The Boston GlobeAfter breakthroughs this year at MIT and elsewhere, scientists — and a growing number of deep-pocketed investors — insist that fusion is for real and could…www.bostonglobe.com -
Sam, perhaps someday you will realize that Rossi has no customers, no partners, and no team. On that day you will truly be free.
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An asymptotic decline is a very slow thing. One can be fairly certain that the latest Rossi fiasco did not create new enthusiasts. On the other hand, the remaining faithful make virtually no demands on their hero, so most of them are still on board, waiting breathlessly for the announcement that a few hundred clueless souls have ordered $250 million worth of a non-existent product. So the cycle will continue. The next question before us is how long will it be before the newest and even more wonderful version of the e-cat is announced?
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Let me see if understand this properly. The product has been certified but the certification is confidential and will only be revealed in the manual to clients. However, there will be no clients until and unless one million units are ordered. And that seems ok to…. anyone with intelligence beyond the average houseplant?
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Compare that picture with his current "offering". Electronics nicely mounted in boxes, beatiful paint job, wires neatly secured with ties. What happened? Now we get Amazon auto parts piled on top of one another with jumbled wires on a beat up dining table. And yet a few are sticking with him? Rossi is just mailing it in now.
Perhaps he is testing the theory that his fanbase has been reduced to those who will stick by him no matter what sort of nonsense he spews. If it’s true, it saves him the bother of having to do anything remotely convincing.
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Frank's comments on ECW confirm my decision not to dismiss the SKlep results. Might even add another unit.
I assume that unless you personally determine that a Rossi device does not work, you will continue to assume that it does regardless of any other information available. Do I have that right?
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All this deconstruction of the long-awaited presentation is entertaining, but it seems more interesting to try to answer the question: what was the point of it? Are there actually people who were impressed by what they saw and want to send money? Given the million-unit requirement, Rossi obviously doesn’t intend to ever deliver product and collect money. The whole thing was so amateurish and pointless that all it accomplished was to shake the confidence of at least some of the most loyal followers. So, again: why did this take place?
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I miss the days when Rossi produced shipping containers full of mysterious and complicated apparatus. Now we just get a hodgepodge of science fair electronics. The guy has gone cheap on us. He doesn’t even use a stethoscope anymore.
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The internet has driven the devaluation of expertise and experience. Who needs a PhD and decades of experience when you can watch a couple of YouTube videos and be just as qualified to make scientific judgements?