Posts by Promethian

    Without scientific understanding, the only way to make progress is by trial and error. That is very slow and expensive, and there is no telling whether it will work or not.

    Well, Alan Smith and Russ George have figured out how to make the process work. And, from what I gather it's pretty cheap too. So, let's hope they disclose their recipe for others to replicate their work.

    The data published here is intriguing but it will not convince any scientists. If this is all they have published, they have not yet begun trying to convince scientists.

    Perhaps they've convinced themselves, given that they are scientists also and/or engineers. They've already seen the future that will arise out of their studies, could be a profound experience.

    LENR effects have not been commercialized because none of them could be commercialized. No one has produced a controlled reaction that can be scaled up or used for any practical purpose.

    That's just an engineering problem that can be overcome with enough work and money.

    But, I do agree with the rest of the post about convincing more scientists and engineers. Which, I think Alan and Russ are doing day by day.

    Thank you for that. Problem is they haven't shown much sign of this talent so far.

    This might sounds preposterous, Alan. But, have you considered pitching your idea to a philanthropic individual like Gates or Musk? I know it sounds kind of absurd but what do you think, given that your goal isn't fame, money, or status, although all or that might as well come with divulging all the details to said individual.

    What do you think?

    However, in all seriousness the Paris/Kyoto clomate change accords step up a gear in 2020 and carbon credits will loom large in rich nations and poor ones. There will be new CO2 reduction/mitigation incentives that we hope will make wonderful things possible.

    Sounds wondrous. I hope you the best of luck.

    To build a system producing MW would be a huge engineering challenge that might take $500M and a decade- and would make little difference to what might be described as 'the balance of power. To build something that produces a consistent, safe and reliable few hundred watts is my immediate goal. That would transform the lives of people the world over

    Got it. So, it seems that you will be out of funding for this goal, as most people don't care to save the poor. I was hoping you might be able to create a home sized device for water heating or general heating for a residence of 2-4 people. Electric production is far off in the horizon, yes?

    I'll answer for Russ on this, since he probably won't post any more. Right now we have something pretty amazing going on, but we don't yet know how useful it might be. Signs are that it will be very useful, but we need to do a lot more work to make it so. We are exploring strange territory, working with relatively novel materials, there is no map, and we are not even sure how far the territory extends. So, it would be premature to discuss commercialisation as we are still experimenting and debugging our systems - not that they are very buggy, but I believe (like many) in the value of continued incremental improvements. Right now I'm putting together a 42V 137A power bus to feed all 8 reactors with exactly the same heater power- it will only be running at a small fraction of its capacity, but does represent another variable removed and another calibration chore simplified.

    Thanks for your interest, I can only assure you that we have good intentions and no fear of hard work or spending our cash on what we perceive to be important work.

    What does Russ George' talking about making the thing available in months not years, mean to you? Does that imply commercialization, as I doubt just selling the recipe would be of any benefit to those in need?

    Thank you for your effort and perseverance despite no funding or external help. You guys rock!

    The fact that he still needs to convince people after so many years and opportunities to do so, is mildly disturbing. Can we move on from Rossi and spend a tenth of the time contacting Japanese researchers or Brillouin Energy?

    I wonder why anyone thinks that selling a license is evidence of success for a reactor design. Look at how many licenses Roger Green and Andrea Rossi sold and look where they are with their development. All it means to sell a license is that someone wants one. Evidence that a reactor actually works comes only from reliable and credible test results.

    I don't think Brillouin deserves to be put in the same category as Rossi or Green...

    A good milestone.

    It is time to look for data about the TRL of Brillouin technology, how near it is to market.

    They seem to have adopted the KISS approach to LENR. I think they were limited in the past by a low COP but seem to have overcome that issue. I also suspect that they are limited to a lower COP due to not wanting to emit any issues with gamma rays.

    I've been rooting for them for a while now and things seem to be working out for them.

    I wonder if Japan or China are the parties mentioned.…-License-7-2-18-Final.pdf

    BERKELEY, CA, July 2, 2018 – Brillouin Energy Corp. (, a
    leading company in the low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) field, announced that it has
    secured its second paid commercial license of its CECR technologies. The license was
    sold to a leading industrial group within the Asia-Pacific region. This latest achievement
    marks another significant step in the company's mission to create ultra-clean, low-cost,
    renewable energy products that are capable of producing commercially useful thermal
    energy (heat).
    "This announcement is an important milestone in our quest to deliver world-changing
    ultra-clean, low-cost renewable energy technologies”, said company CEO, Robert W.
    George. “This latest accomplishment further validates the commercial potential of the
    company’s underlying CECR technologies.”
    The new license agreement pays a combination of up front fees plus various royalty
    streams over time. Brillouin will use the immediate revenue to continue development of
    its green energy solutions that original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) can design into
    highly energy efficient products. This in turn brings the company closer to the reality of
    commercial LENR power.
    For more information about Technology Licensing or OEM Partnerships with Brillouin
    Energy Corp., please see


    Yeah, here's me hoping Nissan and others come out with something. I've lost hope in anyone on the North American continent being able to circumvent government national security issues or being lured by private investors (read DARPA and others) to come out with anything. Although I did have high hopes for Brillouin Energy...

    What kind of competition should that be? Who makes the best snake oil? Who is doing the best science magic show? Who does it best that adult people talk, argue endless about him and his nonsense?
    To be brief:
    No product - No competition

    Well, LENR is an established phenomenon as far as I know. So, I see no reason why Rossi doesn't say what he has. Sure, the man has some deep character flaws, but, I wish that wouldn't detract from the science of LENR and the product he says he has. For the matter, I hope someone else can step up the game and actually start selling some LENR modules and such instead of the Rossi/says thing going on for ages.

    Just my two cents.

    I don't doubt that Rossi has a real product. But, what I really want to see is some competition from others to speed up the process. Does Rossi actually have any competition at the moment? NASA doesn't count, Russia maybe...

    Unified Gravity Corp is the most serious business in cold fusion research, IMHO.

    Same. I'm just kind of frustrated at the peekaboo game I'm all too familiar with. Despite lower power density of used materials, the method of electricity production is much more efficient. I remember them showing an idea of a device half the size of a domestic water heater that would produce almost 15 kW or 10 kW. More than enough for a typical family house needs of 4-6 people.

    Alan, are there any plans to commercialize this reactor?

    Would direct electric production be possible due to strong electron generation on the diamond catalyst? I just think MFMP ought to make the giant leap and get this tech out there through as many replication attempts as possible from credible universities or even pitch the idiot proof device to Mizuno and his team over in Japan.

    Can someone explain the differences between something like Rossi's device and LION?

    Is there any chance of this reactor supplying energy for home needs, and is the conversion of power still limited to extracting heat from the device or can a direct conversion to electric power be achieved?