Deeeeep thoughts Kervran expected the same also 60 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran

http://www.kervran-info.de/leben_en.html

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Apologies if this has been posted before - but here is another January 2021 open access paper from Peter Kalman and co...

Molecule splitting by coherent phonon field

Abstract.

The breaking up process of diatomic gas molecules at the surface of vibrating solid is studied. Introduction.-In a recent paper the effect of coherent phonon states on certain physical processes, e.g. nuclear reactions and bound-free transitions of interstitially bound particles, was discussed. Following the method worked out in quantum electrodynamics [1] the transformation of phonon field of coherent state to an external classical field was carried out in [2]. It was obtained that in the new representation charged particles are coupled , on the one hand, to the quantized phonon field initially in the vacuum state and, on the other hand, to a classical external field the amplitude and phase of which are determined by the eigenvalue of the coherent phonon state. The interaction Hamiltonian, which is switched on due to the creation of the coherent phonon field, between a charged particle and the vibrating crystal is determined. By analogy with the photon dressed states [3], [4], which are used to the description of many photon absorption and emission from a classical electromagnetic (laser) field, the phonon dressed states are introduced to describe the many phonon processes of absorption and emission. In [2] the modification of rate of nuclear reactions due to the appearance of classical vibrations was presented. Since the induced rate of nuclear reactions is proportional to the number densities of free atoms or atom-ions [5] which carry the reacting nuclei, the breaking up process of diatomic gas molecules interacting with surface of vibrating solid is studied here. Hamiltonian and phonon-dressed states due to lattice vibration.-The interaction Hamiltonian H I (r s , t) which is switched on between a charged particle of coordinate r s (with s = 2, 3 in the case of a diatomic molecule to be discussed) and a crystalline material due to the creation of one mode of coherent state.

https://www.researchgate.net/p…_by_coherent_phonon_field

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Curbina i don't think relevant to incriminate Cherepanov2020 to defend his theoretical points of view.

So many do the same here, that doesn' t mean they are right because already unproven.

Only the ground work can give some new informations but not yet white papers.

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Cherepanov2020 , is very different to debate an idea with specific facts about what is being discussed than what you do, which is simply insisting again and again on how wrong is everyone because they did misunderstood Coulomb. You have not been able to provide proof of your opinion, you just reiterate and insist you are right and everyone else is wrong, and no one will be convinced by that, at most we are all getting bored of your monotonous insistence.

JL Paillet found Kalman's work interesting this is why he wanted to invit him at last RNBE.
Now, my understanding is different from this, only resonances behavior occurs to trigger Lenr.

Jean Luc Paillet gave me all these papers earlier about Peter Kalman works.

This first one is Kalman's own explanation of Ecat process.

See work from Garai, Letts, Kervran, Rossi.

When we watch the main long wave which support the superwave, we have to consider that wavelength could be very long this is why i expect a minimum quantity we have to use for attempts.

1 or 2 grs couldn't be enough because the long wave could exist only probably if it could rest on a lot of matter (powder).

A kind of BE Condensate in fact.

acoustic superoscillations or electromagnetic superoscillations that means both resonance behavior the more probable way to explain Lenr without exotic path..How a lot of eV fractions can be added together to reach the necessarily triggering threshold.

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Alan,

An interesting observation. If the claims of that paper are correct, possibly acoustic superoscillations can cause localized very high energy collisions - just speculating, The paper I refered to use electromagnetic superoscillations to cause anomalous chemical reactions. If time permits, I'll find it.

Yes, you are right, first time i'm agree with you.. hahaha I only had cataract surgery last month and it was not a success, it is true.

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It is the reflection of the Sun.

If one cannot recognize it, then going outside and getting some fresh air is strongly recommended for improved mental and physical health.

The luminous point in the center, it's you Jesus, god of truth ?

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Did I ever show this photo of the Doral Black container (Pt/graphite convertor) heat exit?

Well understood.

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Le fil Rossi a toujours été controversé, mais pas à cause du commentaire de Bruce H que vous utilisez comme exemple. Il a en fait fait l'un des rares arguments scientifiques que j'ai vus.

Pour être honnête, je ne peux pas voir cette conversation devenir plus civile. Ceux contre Rossi ont des motifs légitimes de colère, et ses partisans sont très protecteurs de ses singeries. Cela fait un mélange explosif, et à moins que Rossi ne produise réellement quelque chose de crédible, je ne vois rien qui changera la situation.

Le personnel a récemment débattu de la fermeture du fil Rossi pour améliorer la qualité du forum ... qui a eu une tendance à la baisse ces derniers temps, mais a décidé que sa contribution globale était toujours positive. Mais c'était un appel serré.

Plusieurs fois au fil des ans, nous avons averti ceux qui décident de publier ici d'avoir une peau épaisse. Je dis toujours "vérifiez votre ego à la porte", ce qui signifie ne le prenez pas personnel. Si impossible, ce fil doit être évité.

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Could you expect that both the Garai model could have the same answer as you suggested .

His model is talking about H/D vibrations given by IRs heat, inside a gap done by a metal lattice parameter.

It should be in relation with a model you already shared here with balls of several sizes bouncing between them.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jozsef_Garai

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From article it's evident, that Andrea Rossi doesn't really understand excess of energy allegedly observed during his experiments: he just collects most popular ideas and concepts of his time in AxillAxill style. But he converges to my understanding, that E-Cat SK doesn't really run like cold fusion device - but merely like atomar hydrogen device of Langmuir.

My explanation of overunity is actually quite simple and it consists of intriguing behaviour of spherical orbitals - so called forbidden transitions. Monoatomic gases like atomic hydrogen and/or rare gases have such an orbitals. When such an orbitals get input energy, they will expand into so-called excited state and their electrons struggle to find their way back. But they can not do it easily, because spherical objects cannot radiate EM waves easily like elongated antenna. Instead of it, they must wait for some "kick" from quantum fluctuations of vacuum, which would help to shrink excited orbitals back again, so that the original input energy gets restored.

After then just the kick of vacuum fluctuations represents the surplus of energy, which you'll get for free - so that the whole process can repeat in fast pace and continuous stream of energy gets produced. It's a simple as that - no technobabble and/or complex math is needed for its understanding. Actually it may work so in similar way for another overunity devices, like the cavitation engines and/or magnetic motors. This is because small bubbles are perfectly spherical and they also require a kick for their formation. Why? Because surface tension forces prohibit bubble formation until it remains very small, so that for initial bubble formation a surplus of energy is needed. This surplus of energy can be drawn just from thermal fluctuations of environment under violation of thermodynamics.

At the case of magnetic motors the elements exhibiting forbidden transitions can be even spotted with naked eye. The salts of ferromagnetic elements like iron, manganese and/or neodymium sport with unusually pale pastel colours: these colours just correspond forbidden energy transitions: their electrons "want" to absorb energy - but they can not do it easily, because their orbitals are perfectly round.

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I try to raise the level of this thread but it remains miserably low, as batrachians brain, somewhere there.

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I don't understand. In the Doral test, If there are days that there is claimed to be 36000L of water circulating through the ecat plant but the pumps said to be driving the circulation are not capable of this amount, then isn't that a disproof of the claim? And in the Krivit video, if 7Kg/hour of water is said to be converted to steam by the ecat but the measured amount of steam is about an order of magnitude less than this, isn't that likewise a disproof? I am not proposing any particular method for fraud, I am just saying that the claims are disproven.

I think Rossi did what he can as explanation because its remain sticked at border from the current science well understood.

We could criticize also the model of Wyttenbach which exists but never proven XSH it seems.

Mills also with his hydrinos.

it seems all these models are common, interesting.

Well, it appears to be a very new way of thinking the atom structure.

To me, i find well that a compressed hydrogen as hydrino for example compressed by a resonance wave behavior plays only to destabilize the nucleus, especially the stick level , gluons i should say.

it should exist a symmetry of behavior between the void between electrons ( which isn't really empty) and gluons.

Consequence electrons resonance are able to lower the "stick" energy of gluons, releasing especially protons but neutrons too. This energy from gluons lowered seems to be the Lenr energy , nucleons escaped only the consequence.

We should have something like this nucleus seen from its side:

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That is really my point. Rossi explains nothing about energy generation. If Rossi had really explained anything perhaps his admirers wouldn't be going through such great pains trying to explain what they think he meant to explain. Especially on ECW. That site has become so Axilized that many posts seem to have been written by AI pseudoscience gibberish generation software.

Now people have to do the link between my picture below:

If someone serious has money, a laboratory, I will explain how it works and many other things.

A win-win spirit is also important.

Yes, one time i'm agree with my old friend PhysicsForDummies , Mark U could you share what you expected above about Rossi technology.

As you described how Rossi's running, i have to say to not be more clever than all septic here however as him, i studied, read several thousand papers for 10 years now, it remains the basis before talking..

This is not an hidden criticism to septic because for example only around french Lenr world i well know, whose who first are staying on picture often behind a micro don't read so much.. however are first to explain you the real truth, what have to work, especially what will never work hahhaha aaaah what a bullshit world !

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Scientific papers should not be "oblique". Philosophy papers, maybe.

I must be dense. I do not see any explanation of energy generation (besides the bogus results at the end). Can you supply the specific sections and sentences you think describe this?

I well understand all septics around Rossi's case i repeat i only have been focused on his patent not about these parts, ducts.. etc.
Now, i have to say i have been close to the famous Dewey , in the past, very clever guy, both with manipulator and liar. A kind of Trump however less noisy.

He never would have put money in something that would fuck him later, sure..

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Nope, that is in Ferrara, and we can see Darden, Penon, and maybe Dewey(?). Also note Levi in the back, with his ubiquitous red sweater.

Note that the condenser return hoses from the Bologna demo are now steel pipes. But they are probably effectively doing the same uphill water trick as at Bologna, just better disguised.

Doral picture i expect, we can see some workers it seems ?

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Around MHD things who could be able to well explain me the double stage ionization by Penning effect ?

It remains cloudy to me after eating too many Christmas chocolates probably.

It is necessary those who stay around 70 years old must one day touch the hundred

MDR that means " mort de rire " in french

Are you sure this is candies which are added to reach this color ?

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Pastel pink

Roseland is a wonderful world filled with little candy flowers, nice children, toys, also nice monsters where the dominant color is pastel pink.

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From. The Reference Frame by Lübos Mötl

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