Er - we seem to be debating the finer points of vapourware here 
bang99 - April 1st appears to have developed an interesting 12-year Groundhog Day type side-gig 
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If he's making his own "AI Chips", it's most likely a Gate Array, which is user-programmable. No IC Fab required.
That would be an interesting development path!
Fortunately no AI is required in the SSM
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Well if nothing else the comment gave me the
idea to look for that video.
That Young Man is pretty darned
Smart in my Books.
Has Drive.
He said in the video Jeri Ellsworth inspired him.
He's worked hard: studied well, familiarised himself with demanding techniques, gathered suitable tools, honed his fabrication skills - learnt a lot and achieved a great deal
As the YouTube blurb says: he's producing 1970's era device fabrication on a small budget in a home workshop
Practically, he can use his process to make chips for things like guitar effects, but realistically no-one is going to be using his home fabrication lab to make AI chips, probably not even control logic for Power Cells
This project has been great for giving him experience and insight into the principles of chip fabrication, maybe it will become his door-opener to future work
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Maybe Rossi watched this Video.
Sam, I'm sure we all appreciate your integrity and devotion to the eCat cause. I say this as an Elec Eng of 40+ years experience, with only the best intentions of uncovering the truth: you.are.being.duped
'Maybe Rossi watched this Video'? why would he? even if he actually had the new energy producing tech which he claims, he wouldn't need AI to control it. All of the supposed fancy functions which he claims to have squezed into his Altoids tin for $peanuts could be achieved using a simple micro (beaglebone, arduino, raspberry pi, etc) and some simple interfacing chips
Compared to this, AI requires massively complex logic (software & processor)
The video you just shared shows an enthusiast hand-crafting an array of simple transistors, with no inbuilt logic. Sit down and watch it again with a stopwatch; time how long it shows him carefully processing each chip (The video itself only shows a fraction of the full time each step takes); then multiply the time taken for all the steps by 10 million and that will be a small fraction of the time it will take AR's claimed 'team' to fabricate just the no. of chips needed to meet the initial target of pre-orders
Keep believing ...or start to question claims and look for genuine supporting evidence. No-one can do this for you - you have to come to your own informed conclusions
But I say this in all sincerity, do not be surprised if within 1 year or 5, you discover that you have been horribly and cynically deceived
(This is an investor type scam, it's setup to make big bucks from big money-lenders - the only reason for creating JoNP and encouraging eCat fanzines is to make it look to investors that there is an active and hungry market for Leonardo Corps claimed 'inventions')
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You say Ai chip, I say control circuit.
...the Man from Del Monte, he say AI
i say LED, resistor & battery (but the bright light in the reflector is from an off-camera spotlight, lower-left)
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The same company which had to ask a wanna-be-customer to explain the concept of a 'Mounting Bracket' claims to have all the knowledge to totally produce the wunderwaffe AI chip hiding underneath the duct tape and baking foil...
Andrea Rossi
March 31 2023 at 10:51 AM
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2- ...We have also already the know how to produce the microchips necessary for our A.I. in house, without depending from external sources
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Midnight at the Oasis...
Still no power measurement equipment but AR is on his sixth indication of time
...actually, this is 2 clocks in one - it's also a Sun Dial, placed approx 5cms in front of the Lamp
The clearest indication yet that there is a strong light source facing the demo setup from the lower left
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Can you and Chat do the old-time religion version?
A lot of people would pay good money to see a 'Snake-Oil Salesman' version of the eCat Press Release!
(j/k)
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Another important question, will it come with Duct Tape included?
Already certified
(according to JoNP) -
Leonardo Corporation, which has several times been setting up factories, ready to mass-produce their ground-breaking energy generating products, and has also been responsibly getting these production-ready products certified for safety and performance...
....has to ask a potential customer what the phrase '"mounting configurations" means:
Andrea Rossi
March 25, 2023 at 3:48 AMWhat do you mean exactly with “mounting configurations” ?
Steven Nicholes Karels
March 26, 2023 at 2:07 PMThe SKLep SSM 100W unit needs to be secured to a surface, so it doesn’t become loose when transported, etc. Typical applications might include a set of dimensionally defined threaded screw holes to accept a machine screw to mate the unit to a plane surface. Think of OEM power supplies that have mounting holes
...but all is well in the end because, although no provision was made for such an unusual arrangement, it can be added if anyone wantsAndrea Rossi
March 27, 2023 at 3:17 AMThank you for the explication.
Presently the Ecat is designed to be settled upon a surface, or a rack, but it is possible to add standard mounting holes.
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ROFL
Magic or Wizard Wands...
....presumably, that's: 'Rowling On the Floor Laughing' then?
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The converted biodiesel power plants might have worked. That was circa 1980’s.(?)
yes, must have been late '80s 'cause the Italian Senate investigation into Rossi's activities with PetrolDragon produced their report in '90/'91 (see attached)
The invention might have worked... if it had been a valid concept!
It appears that AR's father built and operated an Incinerator business (in Milan?), early days
AR initially received an Italian master of philosophy degree at Milan uni.; he later bought himself a degree in chemical engineering from a Californian degree mill (later shutdown by the Govt.)
AR claimed to invent a waste-to-fuel process, based on ...incinerator tech; he built a demo unit at a medical facility, to 'process' their waste. The business supposedly had 2 full-time employees (incl. AR?), and approx 16 local people under contract
When the the Italian Senate investigation visited, they found a shed containing 3 units: only one was operational, the other 2 were 'for sale'
According to the hospital, the operation appeared to operate with only a couple of people hanging around the incinerator, throwing in the hospital waste when it arrived. No fuel production whatsoever
The Senate were not pleased that AR had shafted the Italian Business Incentive Scheme for several million pounds to produce an eco-friendly waste rehabilitation process and instead, pocketed the money and built a bonfire in a metal can
AR was subsequently tried and convicted
He absconded to the US and subsequently, operating a company later renamed Leonardo Technologies Inc., he won a contract to supply the DoD with Thermal Electric Generators, producing outputs which were supposedly 'an order of magnitude increase in power generation' compared to existing tech
...but that's another story!
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Good start.
If you look the contract, they purchased a 1 MW plant outright.Yet Rossi never gave up possession, and then he destroyed it.
Good sale.
OK - but apart from that, @Para - all his other inventions: Bologna Waste-to-Fuel plant; DoD-funded Thermal Electric Generator; the SKLED - they all performed as claimed, right? ...Right?
(Don't destroy my dreams, Para - tell me this man is the real deal, please!)
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Rossi made one big sale to Tom Darden and Company.
That sale has kept him going and if
he is successful will be one reason for his success like it or not.
I believe that Darden & co. took AR to court exactly because what they thought they'd bought from him didn't work
They all settled out of court, to limit costs - hardly a 'sale'!
(ie. AR got money from IH - they got nothing from him!)
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3)Prediction on delivery
of first customer deliveries?
Soon after he reaches a million
orders.
...that's likely a looooong wait -
The target you quote only applies to 100W device orders
His website actually gives the target as 100MW worth of orders - so if the majority of orders are 10W SSM devices then he says you would need nearer TEN million orders
At the last publicised count, he claimed approx 800,000 orders and on JoNP he also claimed the order preferences were approx 50/50 between the 100w and 10W devices
Based on that proportion, 400,000 orders for 10W devices are worth 40,000 towards the so-called '1 million' target
Including the latest claim of 60,000 units (let's say 100W), that makes a grand total of 400,000 + 60,000 + 40,000 = 500,000
In other words, you are supposedly only just HALF-WAY to the target to meet (start of) delivery ...and ISTR that he claims it will take a full year to deliver the orders
He is not planning to deliver ANYTHING
He doesn't just need a good salesperson - he needs an actual product!
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The Counsellor position is still vacant, if anyone's interested
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it's good that you folks see through the deceptions being presented
Unfortunately there are hundreds, if not thousands, who are cynically being strung along, just to add credence to a greater scam, paying out good money for ancillary equipment they plan to use with what are non-existent 'inventions'
Deconstructions are just a small part of the effort with which concerned people can try to open blind eyes
But thank you for being fascinated and enjoying the show
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My theory is Rossi just wants the attention - people talking about him - does not matter what they say.
To a limited degree, the old 'truism' will always apply: "any news is good news"
i disagree, however, that he just wants attention - his lifework has been the pursuit of $$$ - BIG $$$ (Major Italian Business Grant scheme, DoD contract, Industrial Heat payout, that we know about, so far) We only hear about the investments/awards after the 'invention' gets called out and fails to deliver
His only goal in encouraging public support for the so-called 'inventions' is to create a fake aura of interest when trolling potential investiors. There are plenty reports of people (fans or otherwise) asking 'uncomfortable' questions about the claims and demo details and seeing their valid questions 'disappeared, ignored or answered deceptively
So it does 'matter what people say' - as far as he's concerned, his carefully-woven narrative must be maintained
We can either shake our collective heads, knowingly, and let him foster false hope to hundreds, if not thousands of incautious followers, and continue to dangle impossible returns in front of naive investors - or we can push back
Everyone is free to choose their own response to these cynical claims
I choose to push back
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...The AI powered duct tape and saran wrap applicators...
[sigh] ...i so miss being a student!
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Videos of the "measurements":
Take-aways:
As soon as the camera view is obscured, the camera closes the aperture and the light goes down to almost zero.
nice catch!
h_l: "At some point Rossi's hand is brightly illuminated, seemingly from the wrong direction (Red-Tube-SKLed?)."
Yep, already noted earlier
