Posts by Walter Pegeto

Quote from Shane D.

After much internal consideration, and feedback from the members, we have settled on a compromise that will hopefully make everyone happy. It appears Rossi may be setting up for another demonstration of some sort. If so, we will keep the Rossi threads open until that event happens, and then decide on a course of action. This will be his last opportunity as far as LENR-Forum is concerned, to convincingly show he has what he claims.

Does this, practically, mean that is confirmed that after 12/31/2019 all Rossi related posts will be banned?

Rossi paper seems a "word salad" to me

"applying the condition that the four-distance between charges in Minkowski space-time is a lightlike vector"

a paper on four distance shows that it is a concept totally unrelated to what Rossi says

https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.12097

Moreover, what the heck is a lightlike vector ?

https://www.quora.com/Is-light-a-vector

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Montag, 25.11.2013 08:08 Uhr

"Fusionsreaktoren könnten nahezu unerschöpflich saubere Energie liefern. Eine solche Anlage will ein italienischer Tüftler nun in Heimarbeit entwickelt haben. Ein erster Test scheint die Erfindung von Andrea Rossi zu bestätigen, doch die Fachwelt bleibt skeptisch."

"Schließlich hat Rossi einer unabhängigen Prüfung zugestimmt. Wissenschaftler der Universitäten Bologna und Uppsala sowie des Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm durften an zwei mehrtägigen Testläufen im Dezember 2012 und im März 2013 teilnehmen und dabei eigene Messungen durchführen. Allerdings war es den Wissenschaftlern nicht möglich, das Innere des Reaktors unter die Lupe nehmen."

"Der Abschlussbericht der Forschergruppe scheint Rossi zu bestätigen: "Die Ergebnisse deuten darauf hin, dass Energie in deutlich größeren Mengen produziert wurde, als es mit jeder anderen konventionellen Quelle möglich gewesen wäre", heißt es dort."

https://www.spiegel.de/wissens…unden-haben-a-935081.html

Quote from Navid

Our letter to Rossi.

https://endofpetroleum.com/rossi/

It's a joke ?

Not a single row in today newspapers!

I'm starting to believe in the Ascoli65 theories. This whole story is probably only a propaganda aimed at specific purposes, such as avoiding the dutiful carbon tax, stop ITER and creating the illusion of the possibility of an unlimited economic and financial growth.

https://fusionefredda.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/iter-ed-ecat-due-facce-dello-stesso-bluff/

"Il preambolo all’intervista, che si presume riassuma le posizioni del GSE o quanto meno della sua rivista, è ancora più sconcertante delle parole attribuite allo stesso Rossi. Viene riportata, con toni che ne sostengono la veridicità, la tesi secondo cui la FF sarebbe stata affossata subito dopo l’annuncio di F&P per poter continuare a finanziare la ricerca sulla fusione calda. A tal fine sono state utilizzate le medesime argomentazioni, nonchè interi passaggi, di un altro articolo apparso in rete nel lontano luglio 2011 e che propagandava le prestazioni dell’Ecat (6). Il preambolo all’intervista a Rossi si chiude in un crescendo esclamativo di assurdità: “… I dubbi della Commissione Internazionale sembrano quindi fugati, e con essi potrebbero essersi aperte delle importanti potenzialità di sviluppo, anche su larga scala, dell’E-Cat. Elementi ha avuto l’occasione di porre qualche domanda al suo inventore, Andrea Rossi. Un’opportunità per capire il funzionamento dell’avvenieristico [sic] reattore; un sistema che potrebbe rivoluzionare, in maniera economicamente ed ambientalmente sostenibile, la produzione energetica, in ambito civile e in quello industriale. E tutto questo in un futuro che è già qui!”

Quote from we_cat_global

Hi Walter Pegeto,

Hallelujah! Don't convert too fast!

Cheers,

JB

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I'd convert only if his paper will be published by Nature

Quote from interested observer

What a bunch of disingenuous babble. Anything to prevent criticism of Rossi.

Yes, but you should also consider that criticism is a two-edge sword.

You cannot criticize without at the same time increasing the argument popularity.

Quote from we_cat_global

Hallelujah! Don't convert too fast!

Cheers,

JB

Conversion to what ?

The popularity of a non peer-reviewed paper is not necessarily correlated to its quality!

Quote from JedRothwell

How does one investigate this?

You need a researchgate account.

The names and profiles of the researchers who recommend a paper are public.

You can even contact them and ask questions.

Quote from we_cat_global

..and perhaps he will present his world changing invention soon?

Cheers,

JB

The probability that he will present something is high. What this "something" really is, well, this is an another question.

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-…cpage=463#comment-1417071

Rick 57

November 23, 2019 at 8:31 AM

Dear Andrea,

my best wishes for a complete success today: the world will no longer be the same!

If you want to give a public presentation of your new astunding technology, please consider Feb 2nd, 2020.

It’s a nice palindrome date (02.02.2020), easy to remember in history books !

Sparkling Regards,

Riccardo

After a due investigation seems that Rossi paper 240 recommendations and 33500 reads on researchgate are not fake accounts as Fred suspected.

How such a rather speculative (to be kind), poorly written, paper received so much attention is beyond my head.

Quote from interested observer

The only people who want to shut down the Rossi threads are the remaining diehard Rossi believers. I guess it is annoying to keep seeing people pointing out the obvious things that the faithful so blissfully ignore.

As Alan Smith pointed out, the problem is the excessive numbers of Rossi related posts that "taint" the forum

Das Quecksilber fällt, die Zeichen stehen auf Sturm

Nur blödes Kichern und Keifen vom Kommandoturm

Und ein dumpfes Mahlen grollt aus der Maschine

Und Rollen und Stampfen und schwere See

Die Bordkapelle spielt: Humbatätärä

Und ein irres Lachen dringt aus der Latrine

Die Ladung ist faul, die Papiere fingiert

Die Lenzpumpen leck und die Schotten blockiert

Die Luken weit offen und alle Alarmglocken läuten

Die Seen schlagen mannshoch in den Laderaum

Und Elmsfeuer züngeln vom Ladebaum

Doch keiner an Bord vermag die Zeichen zu deuten

Der Steuermann lügt, der Kapitän ist betrunken

Und der Maschinist in dumpfe Lethargie versunken

Die Mannschaft, lauter meineidige Halunken

Der Funker zu feig um SOS zu funken

Klabautermann führt das Narrenschiff

If the ECAT works the sentence "if we succeed" does not make sense!

On Rossi Blog

Bruno

November 20, 2019 at 12:19 PM

Dear Dr. Rossi,

you wrote:

“It is unbelievable, but if we succeed we will save the planet. Period. As of today we made enormous progress and I think we are very close to success. If we will not have success, this would mean that I have wasted a lot of personal money, because I wanted not anybody lose money investing in this very risky enterprise”.

I am quite surprised you still have doubts about the success of the ECAT, because you said us that you are selling (steam produced by) ECAT plants that already produce clean energy. Why then these douts? Do the ECAT plants you are selling really work?

Best regards, Bruno

Quote from Mark U

No fakery as far as I can tell. Rossi's mind and energy seemed remarkably good to me, especially given that he was in recovery.

The alleged 437 nm line (little peak) has nothing to do with the alleged 357 nm peak. The former is a proposed signature for a proposed emission from a proposed electron and proton interaction as described in Rossi's paper. The latter (357 nm) has to do with an attempt to derive the temperature of the plasma.

An odd thing is that the 437 little peak is often not even there. Only occasionally does it appear in the live spectrum feed. That may spell trouble for the mechanism proposed in the paper. Or not. It may be dependent on the particular signal the plasma is receiving from the controller box.

Another odd thing is there is no mention of how the 357 nm peak power was determined. I assume the power spectrum was somehow averaged to 357nm, but this was not mentioned.

You are right, it is not a blackbody spectrum, although Rossi restricting the spectral feed to come from the densest inner part of the ballerina makes it closer, at least, to a blackbody.

Assuming blackbody he could then use the Wein equation to determine temperature, which is then used in the Boltzmann equation to determine power. If I were doing it, I would have avoided going the Wein and Boltzmann route and just done the calorimetry. No biggie though. The important thing is that the calorimetry - involving temperature change of cooling air flow using two different setups - has the SK producing about 20kW, which happily is close to the spectrum power calculation. All calculations were significant underestimates too. (Rossi is that modest.)

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It's clear that Rossi has used the Wein equation only as a practical (simple and fast because avoids the drawbacks of thermal inertia) way to monitor the heat produced by the e-cat after he found an empirical reasonable correlation with other measures.

Rossi paper has definitely much weaker points, where the incompatibility with generally accepted science (GAS) is crystalline clear, as is the case of electrons with spin 1 that move at speed of light!

What I mean is that to attack Rossi paper in the only quite reasonable point does not make sense, in my opinion.

Quote from oldguy

Yes, the case of the dog that did not bark: https://brieflywriting.com/201…bsence-of-expected-facts/

The absence of something is often the strongest evidence.

Exactly! There is absolutely no trace of Rossi neither in scientific journals (arXiv and researchgate are not journals) nor in mainstream media. Only conspiracy theorists can believe that the media, in democratic countries, can be so tightly controlled:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_mediacontrol.htm

Quote from Curbina

Mind you, and for the record, I have to state that I have never said or implied il dottore is a scammer, just that I realized that putting confidence in the accuracy-validity of his statements was not rewarding, and therefore I lost any interest in following his endeavors, but otherwise, I wish him well.

Please let's use elementary logic.

Even if only 10% of what he says was true, it would be the most revolutionary scientific discovery in the field of LENR, and would be presented as a breaking news by all mainstream media!

Compare this with a non peer-reviewed paper with zero citations!

Quote from Bruce__H

There are stylistic differences between sections 1-4 of Rossi's Researchgate paper, and sections 5-6.

Have you considered that all this excessive attention to Rossi paper is free advertising for Rossi ?

Quote from Curbina

No, he was refering to the idea that you have to be extremely gullible to keep believing the statements of il dottore, specially after the SK demo fiasco.

I understand this, but the ultimate true aim of nigeria scammers is money, nothing else. For this reason I though he was referring to the 11M$ paid by IH to Rossi.

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I think you did not get the whole context,

I thought he was referring to the $11M paid by IH to Rossi as an example of a "Nigerian scam", because, as far as I know, nobody else has given money to Rossi so far.