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    Apart from the fact that lenr rather alive thatn dead in Russia despite turbulence. The main takeaway from the article, for myself, is that USPTO added codes to the classification to include 'alledged cold fusion'. That was reported at MIT conf.


    I've heard from Brillouin that continuation patent applications are pending and should be made public by late April, which might be related, hopefully, to the USPTO broadening its views on LENR.

    Robert Horst: Thanks a lot! I am eager to know more about you thought of Tanzella's presentation.


    When you talk about losses from the electronics, do you mean the electrical consumption of the control panel? I understand that the COP should be calculated by comparing what goes in the Hot Tube (in electricity) and what goes out (in heat) but I understand that it would be pretty much useless if all the extra power is used by ancillary electronics. Nevertheless, if the system can be scaled up, surely the percentage represented by the electronics should decrease.

    AlainCo: My technical expertise is limited but from what I understand they do not feel that their main challenge is raising their COP. Provided they are able to keep running tests, they are confident that they will be able to improve their set-up (which includes both metallurgy and Qwave generation) and raise their COP. Their results over the last few years (and even more over the last few months) support that position. Additional funding would allow them to increase the rate of testing and reach "profitable COP" much faster.


    The main challenge is engineering/manufacturing, i.e. their ability to scale up their current Hot Tubes into a commercial device and being able to mass-produce such commercial device.


    seven_of_twenty: I reviewed your own comments multiple times during the course of my personal due diligence and thank you for your helpful skepticism. It is pretty hard to judge competence in a field in which you're not an expert and that is why it was important to me to speak with "independent" people such as non-LENR SRI people and lawyers with a technical background. I always had the feeling from years of following LENR developments that Brillouin was the reasonable company (their willingness to advertise low COP is in itself reassuring to me) and this feeling has been confirmed through those contacts.


    On calorimetry, Dr Tanzella indeed recognized that the current set-up, which is entirely credible to him and in which he has no doubt, may appear overly complicated to outsiders, hence their willingness to devise a simpler method in order to be more convincing. However, the results of the last few months have generated heat up to a level that seems to them incompatible with any sort of mistake in measurement.

    (Hey all! I am new to the forum.)


    I recently made a small investment in Brillouin (please don't worry about my finances, I only invested an amount I was ready to lose) and had some contact with David Firshein (CFO), Fran Tanzella (formerly from SRI, now an independent consultant and part of their advisory board member) and Cathy Cretsinger (their patent lawyer at Kilpatrick Townsend, also a member of their advisory board).


    • I'll start with David Firshein, as he was my first contact and the person with whom I exchanged the most. He was extremely candid about the high-risk nature of an investment in Brillouin. They are still looking for funding (obviously) both in relation to their Series C (which remains open) and their Series D (which recently started). Although I initially contacted them in relation to the Series D, I ended up investing in the Series C as it was still open. On a more personal point, I really appreciated his honesty, especially about the challenges of raising funds in LENR.
    • I then had the opportunity to speak to Fran Tanzella (David Firshein proposed this to me) who presented his research in LENR and his work for Brillouin. While he remained cautious on the ability to turn what they have into a marketable product, he clearly expressed that he has not seen in his years of research in the field anything close to the level of consistency and control Brillouin has over the reactions they are producing. He also explained that the steady progress he has seen in their COP seems to indicate that they are on the right track. You might also be interested to learn that, even if he is confident that their current measurements are correct, they are currently working on a new calorimetry set-up that should convince sceptics that their measurements are not flawed.
    • As I was concerned about SRI closing the department in which Dr. Tanzella worked, I asked if he would be comfortable with me exchanging email with a former colleague of his, preferably someone outside of the LENR "usual suspects". He directed me to his former superior who confirmed to me his credentials and his ethics.
    • Finally, I spoke to Cathy Cretsinger. Being a lawyer myself, it mattered to me to get a feel of her opinion, expecially considering the risk of being scammed. She perfectly understood that and, while remaining very prudent on the technical side, she did assure me that Brillouin is not a fraud.

    From all the above (as well as assorted documentation, which showed that all stakeholders in Brillouin have put their money where their mouth is), I was convinced that the people working at Brillouin are sincere and believe in their findings. I was also convinced that they are not incompetent and deluded.


    They might be mistaken, of course. Their measurements might be flawed one way or the other. But I decided to bet on the (possibly low) probability that they might really have something, both because the possible return on investment is considerable in such a case (which compensates for the unlikeliness of it all) and because, on a more selfless basis, I have a hard time seeing how mankind is going to solve its current situation without a longshot succeeding.


    One major risk remains that they end up dead in the water because of lack of funding. Firshein is working hard to find investors and I hope he finds bigger whales than myself.


    I'll be happy to answer any question you may have. I was not asked to sign any NDA so I feel pretty free to talk.