why wouldn't he try to get a piece of pie too? In the end just "use the same technology" and have similar customers right ?
Wasp, I would like to answer to you thay you are right because the Keshe stuff (keeping soft) is pure hoax but I may receive complaints about casual insults, complaints from anonymous and non-members (that I have no idea who it might be) and moreover threats of being banned by someone it will appear immediately.
I have an idea to solve this Rossi is a scammer or not discussion. Let's please focus on specific pieces of evidence and decide if they represent a truthful hero or scammer. Before accusing people of casual insults, please respond to the following.
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3. Rossi claims his SKLed has 10x the ouput of current high efficiency LEDs. Yet it is unable to power itself closed loop using PV cells, since PVs are so efficient in UV, which the Skled doesn't emit. Is this claim heroic or a scam?
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@ PFD
I would like to add another bit of data about PV cells able to work under low light intensity conditions.
By means of these simplified graphs I extrapolated the most significant performances of this type of PV cells when under the white LED light having the spectrum shown in picture.
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As anyone can see these cells can generate as MPD (Max Power Density) more of 75 uW/cm2 when they are under 1000 lux white LED light illumination.
Using the data that the magician declared:
- a LED lamp able to produce >10000 lumens
(5000 K white light, spectrum in the range 420-700 nm)
- power consumption of only 4 W
- covering an illumination angle of 60 degrees
and considering that at 3.4 meter of distance that 10000 lumens lamp should produce about 1000 lux on a surface of 11.9 m2, this kind of PV cells will produce up to 8.9 W, a power value widely enough to supply the magician's lamp in a closed loop even considering the use of a low effiicency DC-DC converter to get the right voltage value.
Based on above calculation that clearly disproves his claims, let me know why I should not think that magician says lies (as part of his farce) and why I should not write it here as someone would still like.
No - casual insults are the worst behaviour. That gets people banned
Right, just who is biased can turn the truth as an insult.
And you are a member of another clan of course. And I don't know who you are either.
It's quite different because as any members of this Forum I'm writing in public. I like only truthside, false neutrality is the worst behaviour.
That's a fact. No idea. Not very interesting except to the obsessed, but entirely true.
On the contrary I think that it's very interesting because it gives a further evidence on how the clan works.
I have no idea who it might be - and neither do you.
So you have an anonymous reader (non-member of this Forum) but clearly from Rossi's side (I have a small idea of who he's) that communicate with you in private but you have not idea who is . A very interesting story.
Who they were?
Was the magician in person or someone from the magician's clan?
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- Rossi Fan April 16, 2021 at 2:36 PM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi
Is it possible that in 2022 you will launch the Ecat SKL to generate electricity with the same system you started with the sales of the Ecat SKLed ?
All the best,
Rossi Fan
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- Andrea Rossi April 16, 2021 at 4:03 PM
Rossi Fan:
Yes, it is likely,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Skam means the launch of Ecat SKL “out of the window”. 
QuoteAndrea Rossi
April 14, 2021 at 10:40 AMLorenzo Persello:
No, our spectrum is limited between 420 and 700 nm.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
That's the spectrum of a 5000 K LED light white color (CIE 1931):
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Dr. Skam said that his magic lamp produces a white color light (5000 K) generating more of 10000 lumens in an angle of 60 degrees using only 4 W.
The above means that putting this lamp at a distance of 1 meters it would be available about 11800 lux (1096 foot-candle) on an area of about 1.1 m2.
Did you calculate how much electrical power can produce a PV cell under this kind of illumination?
Sam, you know "DR Rossi" is not a Doctor/PhD right? He has basically a masters equivalent in philosophy. Why are you lying about this? That is part of the scam.
Maybe he means DR in scam.
QuoteDan Galburt
QuoteDisplay MoreAndrea Rossi
Dan Galburt (second answer of today):
Our team worked today on your suggestion: all the the Ecat SKLed will be able to be powered either with their plug connected to the grid at 110-240 V, 50-60 Hz, OR with any 12 V battery, and it will be the undisputed lamp with the longest autonomy of the world, at parity of battery Ah.
You gave us a great idea. We got it. The DC connection will poke out from the rear face of the Ecat’s body.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Unbeliave! The magic Team of the Miami's magician in few hours has modified the "masterpiece" adding a connector to supply the unit from a 12V DC external battery.
We need in short a quick revision of the product sheet (I hope with a new photo) to include the new feature (and the power cord forgotten in past) and to specify also the type of connector added declaring also the DC current value needed.
Is now the weight of SKam Led when turned off furtherly decreased to reach a negative number in grams?
Antigravity? - OMG - In this case he's going to infinge a few of Keshe's patents.
BTW has somebody tried to make the calculation of total solderings for 1 M units? 10K x 1M = 10B = 10^10 solderings!
Another question: Didn't SKL also produce electricity too? Where is the female AC plug to power the load?
I would have asked myself on Jonp but I'm sure I wouldn't pass the 'uncomfortable question' detector.
Maybe around 2023 we will see the new theatre scene on jonp about development of a masterpiece that has the AC plug to power the load in order to overcome the usual nothing really on market and so the scam can continue...
∴ the device weighs 200 g when turned on.
When turned off the device weights 0 g to meet the well known condition that states it really doesn't exist.
Rossi didn't mention that it weighs much less when turned on. Don't ask.
Seriously though, a three foot power cord by itself should weigh something like 70 grams I would think.
So even gullible me finds it hard to believe that in total the Ecat SKLed is a mere 200g.
No problem Mark, to stay in the total weight of 200g the magician can remove something of useless inside the SKLed like all 10000 hand soldering made by himself.
To be more precise at the beginning power cord was missing, he forgot it during design of this new "masterpiece"... but he adds it on jump after some days of hard work on his keyboard.
In fact, when you rub the lamp, Rossi showup - it is written in the specifications!
Well, also using this magic lamp when the Genius come out is it possible to ask the three wishes?
A very important question:
rubbing the lamp of the Miami’s magician comes out a Genius like was with the Aladdin’s one?
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QuoteAndrea Rossi
April 10, 2021 at 12:57 PMSam:
Prof Amy Akasaki, Nobel Prize laureate in 2014 for his invention of the LED, made one of the most important inventions of the last 100 years.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The Miami's magician ignores also that the inventor of LED is not Amy Akasaki, but Isamu Akasaki invented only the blue one based on GaN p-n junction.
https://www.nobelprize.org/pri…ics/2014/akasaki/lecture/
The inventor of LED can be considered Nick Holonyak Jr.
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April 10, 2021 at 5:27 AMDear Andrea,
You propose the concept of network selling. Half a life ago I also dared to do this, and indeed such a system works on a human scale. A fixed characteristic of products that go into network sales is that the official sales price is multiplied several times. This is to cover the costs for driving around and the palaver.
I don’t know if there are enough enthusiasts to get to a million copies sold. Wouldn’t it be wise to also set a price so that delivery can be made anyway? Some electronics can also be made to order in small quantities.
If we already had a few models to take to the streets, it would be easier. At the very least, we can then fine-tune some concrete applications in growing and flourishing markets where we know cheap artificial light has a huge competitive advantage, and where no whole boards of directors need to decide on the purchase. These tests can take several months to even a year.
Maybe you can think of this as plan B.
Kindest regards,
Koen
QuoteAndrea Rossi
April 10, 2021 at 7:59 AMKoen Vandewalle:
Thank you for your opinion, but only if we reach that order of magnitude we can offer that price. With a minor order of magnitude, the price would be much higher and nobody would buy the product, with exception of several hundreds of subjects aiming only to a reverse engineering. For obvious reasons, we are not interested to follow this path, as difficult as the reverse engineering might be.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
About the one million of pieces min to be sold or nothing it will be on the market:
in this case the price value related to its quantity is pure bullshit. Does anyone exist that would not pay more of 25$ (250$, 2500$, and more... for each piece) in order to get a never existing before item that it would represent the most important energetic miracle of the millennium?
In this case a higher unit price can keep unchanged also the total money amount even selling less pieces.
Don't make me laugh, it's just a ridiculous pretext.
