Posts by Rends

Quote from JedRothwell

In the U.S. it is inconceivable that this would be considered libel. Calling Rossi a scammer does not begin to fit the legal definition of libel.

U.S. law would never include a government imposed fine or imprisonment for libel. It is strictly a matter of civil law, not criminal.

https://www.hg.org/defamation.html

JedRothwell ...so you can see that different people, nations, cultures have different conceptions of what is right and what is not, and since this is an international forum, I would welcome it if these differences are taken into consideration and in doubt is more reasonably argued.

*At the request of the admin and moderators team, I announce that this is my purely personal opinion.*

Quote from JedRothwell

It is definitely not against the law! That would be a violation of free speech.

There is no need for a trial. Every sensible person can see that Rossi is a scammer, and in every free society anyone is free to say that.

For example in Germany it is strict against the law, also and especially in the WWW:

https://www.mittelstandswiki.d…ch%C3%A4digung_im_Web_2.0

"Anyone who is convicted of a libel is to be punished with imprisonment for up to two years or with a fine according to § 186 StGB."

The domain http://www.lenr-forum.com is registered in the US (San Francisco CA.) maybe that there is another law, but I would prefer that no person, cooperation, or organisation is accused here as long as there is no judicial verdict.

Eric and all the moderators and admins are human beings, and we often have to make decisions here and therefore read tons of text, which means that we have to read EVERYTHING in order to make a judgment that is timely, which is very difficult if you, for example, lives in Europe and most posts from the US at 4:00 am local time.

- no person with half a brain would do -

Comments like this are offensive and I would appreciate it if this is left out in the discussion.

http://www.pharmatimes.com/new…ter_trial_failure_1191441

(for the FT you need an user account to read the article)

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"I mean look it, this is a big case. [... ] I think we need to have an argument on this or we think that this stuff is hidden in a mountain in Colorado and we shouldn't have to go get it, so we need a judge really to decide whether or not, you know, it's proportional to the needs of the case. Not, you know, oh we gave them videos and we did this and we did that. This is garbage. This is not what I'm here for. So I suggest you guys start working on this stuff a little better. I don't know who is, you know, doing the communicating between you, but if it's not you two and it's someone else, they need to communicate. And if they can't get it accomplished, then you two get it accomplished before you come and see me again. I'm not here to resolve kindergarten matters, and I'm serious about this."

JOHN J. O'SULLIVAN UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE December 20, 2016 in response to Mr. Pace

"Garbage", "Kindergarten Matters", good points Mr. O'Sullivan

In Germany, we have a good tradition in court, the so-called judicial expert opinion. If in Germany (where we have no Jury at all) the court has a doubt then, several independent experts are commissioned, for example to proof function of a device. I sincerely hope that there is this appeal in the US too, to put an end to these senseless debates here!

I want to add some facts concerning the questions if IH is somehow related to Cherokeefund or not, which is denied by Darden et.al.
The email address domain used in all the communication is allways @industrialheat.co ...

Quote from AlainCo

like Ampenergo have been

Ampenergo were not deceived, they became in 2013 by investment manager tactics Shareholder of IH. Which resulted in the fact that in 2014, before it ever came to the long-term test, Craig Cassarino waited like a commanding receiver for the instructions of Vaughn / Darden / Mazzarino. Some may ask why this guy never signed the Second Amendement.

Quote from THHuxleynew

What is interesting is how the links between Leonardo and USQL suddenly stop at the end of the test, when we know from other evidence (Fabione deposition) that Fabione angered Rossi by (Rossi thought) providing too much information to IH about the test.

Fabiani provided (or better promised) not "too much information" but all that is necessary to replicate the system without Rossi directly to to JT Vaughn and Thomas Darden.

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"Then I will work on my official report to bring to light all the flaws and functional deficiencies of the system in order to have sufficient information to replicate a system with lower costs and with greater reliability."

https://www.lenr-forum.com/att…iani-0029-exhibit-21-pdf/

And at the same time he applied for a new contract, which suggests that at least Fabiani was sure that the system works and he can even optimize it for IH.

I just look who has reason and decency here in this community (not important that I agree with his or her opinion) and who is not, but many people have not understood that we are taking it very seriously in our community. Here no one is corrupt, we are ALL here without getting money, we respect human dignity and even if we disagree, we can still pursue a common goal without degrading and degrade other people as Dewey Weaver practiced it.

Quote from Forty-Two

On your scale, at what level is doxing?

If you are acting in a community with your real name, by using you real reputation and your discussion partner (and the community) do not even have to use Google to find out with whom you are talking with, what kind of doxing should this be!

Quote from THHuxleynew

I believe (may have got the details wrong) that he is an old friend of Tom and one of the investors in IH. And he is working for IH as contact with LENR people. So he probably find that the lies spread on ECW about IH piss him off. They certainly would me.

Understand, but for example I quote from court files and of course try to lure people out of the cover, but how is it possible that someone in the position of a Dewey Weaver could be so unprofessional? This is somehow characteristic of the whole case.

For example you and I had massive disputes, but I can not remember that I attack you on that level!

Quote from THHuxleynew

Dewey insults and denigrates anyone who does not agree with him.

Understand and why he is working for IH/Darden/Cherokee?

Quote from THHuxleynew

unsophisticated IH staff

...interesting,

Quote from THHuxleynew

Rends, it would help me if you could state who you think does this? Other than Jed, who from context is probably one?

http://coldfusioncommunity.net/2681-2/#comment-2465

... and this is a person who is acting in behalf of IH/ Darden et.al. /Cherokee

Why do many supporters of Darden et al. always insult and degrade their conversation partners at the same time?

Quote from IH Fanboy

@Jed,

Have you ever been, or are you now, an advisor to IH?

Easy to answer...

Quote from JedRothwell

The moment I saw that data I knew it was fake.

Quote from JedRothwell

you should stop make bold assertions about things you know nothing about.

You don't get it.. it is completely irrelevant what I think, or what you think, it is about what the court and later the jury thinks and as you can see, if you use the court papers then you could rise a lot of questions in every direction, and one can do that in favor of Rossi/Leonardo or in favor of Darden/IH.

Quote from Forty-Two

Where is the document in which IH claims that they (and not Rossi) have measured with an IR camera a COP of 9?

https://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment/1799-0214-22-pdf/

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