QuoteWe also observed that the excess power generation was sustainable with power level of 10-24 W for more than one month period,
It would be interesting to know what was the input power and thus estimated COP ...
QuoteWe also observed that the excess power generation was sustainable with power level of 10-24 W for more than one month period,
It would be interesting to know what was the input power and thus estimated COP ...
Do not think this is a typo too:
http://matthey.academia.edu/De…chnology_Centre/Documents
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Well maybe ice melting is not enough... For example H2 dissociation energy is 436 kJ/mol, so if I got my calculations right, with 1MW and 100% efficiency only 16 kg of H2 can be dissociated in 1 hour.
Obviously 100C steam cannot do that and 100% efficiency is impossible, but the H2 example gives the idea. If real, I guess the 1MW steam flux was needed in a multi-stage dissociation process where final components are then stocked separately.
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@andrea.s
From pictures in slides it seems that the calorimeter is made of two tin-coated iron cans (like the ones used for peeled tomatoes for example) soldered together with tin. As internal tin layer prevents corrosion (and temperatures were below tin fusion point), I think it is quite improbabile that excess heat comes from iron oxidation.
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@Franktwu
Thanks for the advice but I really enjoy news fron Planet Dewey
@Robert
Yes I knew ans found it curious and I hoped Dewey could shed some "lux" on it instead of the usual propaganda ...
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@Dewey
Regarding the reassuring blue light, can you tell us something about Lux Energy Ltd ?
https://mobile.twitter.com/luxenergyltd
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@Alain
My 2 cents: IH suspects that ecat works (ask Thomas Baker Dameron and his Ferrara acceptance test) but could not replicate it as Rossi did not disclose all the secrets.
Rossi wants the 89M for those secrets, but IH wants to be able to replicate before paying. Deadlock situation.
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@Peter Ekstrom
As for so called "piezonuclear reactions", this recent paper published on EPJ may of interest:
http://epjplus.epj.org/article…015_Article_786.html?mb=0
Nuclear measures were carried out by operators belonging to two of the most respected italian authorities in the field (ARPA and ENEA). I think your expert opinion would be interesting.
@Peter Ekstrom
If you are interested in non-nuclear approaches that may explain anomalous heat effect in LENR-like experiments, maybe you will find interesting the following:
- zero point energy approach based on stochastic electrodynamics [Moddel, Haish from U of Colorado]: http://www.jovion.com/
- epicatalisys [D. Sheehan, U of San Diego]: https://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/24
Both theories are quite controversial, but are published in mainstream journals and proposed by "conventional" researchers
I'm looking forward to study the info in the ERV, and I think that my friends at GSVIT will be more than eager to dwelve into the issue with test and experiments. Anyway, I fear that the outcome of the discussion will be the usual one: that is you can neither prove nor rule out with absolute certainity possible errors / deceptions, so we'll be back to the start.
In the case of Defkalion, the flowmeter issue was discovered by a techincian who cross checked measurement and setup while the test was ongoing.
IMHO, to settle the issue once and for all, it is necessary a test performed by a court appointed HVAC engineer, with both parties present.
@Dewey
As far as I know, Cimpy is a shared nick with a troll-team behind it. As he has repeadltely attacked and slandered me [and also many others obviously] in every possible way, often on a personal level, I constantly ban or ignore him. Have a look here: http://22passi.blogspot.it/201…roll-incatenati-alla.html
As for the Levi-Fabiani pinball connection, it was well known to all italian readers, because those contracts are public here by law. As far as I know [I've funded similar contracts with Universities], that money is usually used to pay students, buy equipment, etc and every expense has to be approved by a collegial team within University.
Let me say that if you want to get a few bucks for an "anomalous" activity, that method would be the last to be used.
@Dewey
If you are interested in flowmeter issues, you may find interesting GSVIT analysis based on what is known (patent application, photo) about IH validation and patent test, and my subsequent observations (which unfortunately are only reported for now in the italian version of their report, but google translator is your friend )
Quick summary: if the setup was similar to the one in the picture, the pump was the one listed in patent application and was operated correctly, the flowmeter measure was OK.
Indeed relying on what is publicy known, there are some missing details that do not allow to rule out possible sources of errors, but maybe you can ask IH engineer Tom Barker Dameron to fill the missing gaps, as he is listed as inventor in patent application and he probably oversaw the tests.
Besides, as I said, every italian speaking reader can confirm you that there is no way Rossi could have signed such a patent application.
@Francesco CELANI
Welcome to the Forum Prof. Celani !
@Thomas Clarke
Well, some papers that you may find interesting and should fulfill most of your requirements are, for example, the following:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10701-014-9781-5
http://epjplus.epj.org/article…360_2015_Article_786.html
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwreducedrad.pdf
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@Thomas Clarke
For a relative pressure of 1 bar
Probably my English is quite bad (I'm italian) but what I meant was 1 atm absolute pressure.
Besides I think that steam dryness in a contractual requirement of the ongoing 1MW test, and I hope that this important data will be disclosed at the end of the test.
Mats book is interesting and well balanced IMHO. It reports of some failed tests and gives hints of some reserved ones (as the test, positive, done by ENEL, which is the main italian electric company). Anyway, with data that is publicy available, I think no definitive conclusion can be drawn.
@Thomas Clarke
So I think you mean from this that no assumption can be made in this case about the output pressure at which this spec is interpreted?
No, I said that as the spec cannot refer to the entire Mollier diagram, if output pressure is not specified, it should be assumed that output temperature is relative to conventional pressure of 1 atm. Anyway, as I said, it should be better to explicitate it given past issues about calorimetry.
The argument of [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] (and other investors) not doing test properly is very weak IMHO: you know that to verify whether e-cat COP is > 1 as asserted by Rossi, it is sufficient a day's work of a HVAC technician ... I think [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] and others investors have the resources to afford that. [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] specified in press release they did their own test, and recent investor Woodford Patient Capital Trust said they did many months of "due diligence" ...
I meant that *if* steam pressure is not specified, it should be assumed that other data (output temperature in this case) is relative to conventional pressure of 1 atm. This does not mean that the factory uses steam at 1 atm.
Anyway I agree with you that spec is vague and should be more precise, considering also the numerous past issues with e-cat calorimetry (that you know very well, as I have seen in other threads on this forum ...)
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Steam dryness depends on the temperature and pressure it has when released, not on the pump prevalence, not counting that water pressure varies all along hydraulic circuit. If output steam pressure is not specified, it is supposed to be 1 atm.
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@Thomas Clarke
According to the same spec, output water temp is up to 120C, so wet steam related uncertainities should be ruled out.
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I would like to ask the following question to the authors: do you think that there is a connection between the heat anomalies that you found and the so called "epicatalysis" phenomenon described in the following papers (expecially the H2 dissociation experiment) ?
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR14/Session/A2.11
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10701-014-9781-5
And what about Casimir-Lamb shift hypothesis for Hydrogen atom ?