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    Videos reveal the real behavior during boil-off of Cell 1
     

    The jpegs presented in the previous comments show how easy it is to distinguish the liquid part of the cell contents from the accumulated foam above it and how the boil-off period consists of a…
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    A closer look at the boil-off phase of cell 2

    The following jpeg expands the time period around the boil-off of the cell 2 of Figure 6B (1).
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    The already cited YouTube video (2) contains a short sequence starting at 22:35:14 (on the 20th test day, ie
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    Evolution of the water contents inside cell 2

    In their ICCF3 paper (1), F&P discussed the problem of properly timing the variation of the water contents inside the cell:
    "… It is therefore necessary to develop independent means of monitoring
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    Misinterpretation of dry-out timing and mechanism of the 4-cell Boil-off experiment

    A simple cross checking of the public information available on the more meaningful F&P work, the 4-cells boil-off tests described at ICCF3 in 1992 (1), reveals a big…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    A fact that were well established at those times was that steam engines had problems with liquid droplets mixed with steam. These problems became particularly severe with the diffusion of steam locomotives, and was solved by…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    No surprise. In the F&P method, the calibrations are done to calculate the global heat transfer coefficient k, so the heat balance should be zero by definition in ALL the different calibrations.

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    FWIK, this issue was…
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    Jed,

    I have one point (also made by Ascoli) that establishing whether boil-off is wet or dry steam matters and cannot be assumed. The correct instrumentation could do this (with some difficulty), or a better type of cell would…
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    (Quote from Alan Smith)


    When publishing extraordinary results, the extraordinary cannot be ruled out.

    In any case my point remains, without clear documentation, speculation as to what F&P would or would not have done is unsafe and unwise. Something…
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    To my knowledge no control has been run under boil-off conditions, which alters the balance.

    There may be changes between control and actual before boil-off (even ones that lead to boil-off in one case not the other). That is a…
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    If you are saying you don't believe Fleischmann, and you don't think they calibrated, then the discussion is over. There is nothing I can say to convince you if you don't trust the authors. Except that I would suggest you try calibrating yourself. See…
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    Liquid losses from F&P open cells: from admission via negation back to admission

    1) Admission (December 1989, revised in March 1990) – From article "Calorimetry of the palladium-deuterium-heavy water system" (1):
    "there is usually a change to an
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    (Quote from THHuxleynew)


    Actually, some control tests at extreme boiling conditions that should have not generated any excess heat, but that surprisingly behaved like the normal tests, have been reported by Biberian in 2007, in a paper where he…
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    Jed.

    You argue strongly that entrained droplets could not exist leaving the F&P cells in amounts that explain the apparent excess heat. For each of your arguments, perhaps you could consider the argument on the other side? In…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    Yes, I already saw that document, but it is hard to call it a paper that describes scientific tests. Even Fleischmann didn't sign it. It is little more than a press release: no references, no mathematical model, no raw data,…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    Actually, I'm referring to the claims contained in the "major paper" of Fleischmann (1), the co-founder of CF. This document is the cornerstone of the whole CF/LENR building, and it is wrong. Badly wrong.

    This document deals…
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    (Quote from Wyttenbach)


    In the meanwhile JR told you that the cells I'm talking about were open.


    An advise. In addition to watching them, videos must also be listened to, and possibly understood!


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    Who is the troll? And why are you asking to…
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    (Quote from Wyttenbach)


    I didn't say that drops were evaporated, whatever the temperature. My position is much simpler: at any temperature there is some liquid entrained by the gas stream and his quantity can easily explain any apparent excess heat…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    Yes, obviously, vaporization dominates during the boil-off. And boiling was exactly the condition that Fleischmann's "major paper" was aimed to investigate, as stated at the beginning of the abstract (1): "We present here one
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    (Quote from kirkshanahan)


    For what I have seen, there are many of such hard-wired assumptions about CF. It's impossible to deal with all of them. I prefer to give priority to the most influential, that IMO are a) the assumption that all the water left…
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    (Quote from JedRothwell)


    The only result of a control test that I see in the papers I referenced is the transient shown in Fig.1 of (5). It refers to a blank Pt+D2O test. The current was 0.8 A and the voltage scale is limited to a maximum value of 20 V.…