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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from Dr Richard)

    Like I said elsewhere, smarter people will figure everything out once the patent issues. I will consider that success, even if nothing else happens., because once it is 'out there', it will evolve. I am not omniscient. Just…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from JedRothwell)

    USPTO. I have done this before, with another invention. Drive there (to the USPTO), drag the 150 pound first item into the USPTO. Show and tell. They were shocked it was not vaporware. I guess that happens a lot to them. I was…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from JedRothwell)

    We can do that. Low kilowatts now, higher soon. But we need money to do so. Making things that are safe and reliable costs money. Not megabucks, but more than I have. My dreams are filled with shoving out reactors off a C-130 ramp…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    I offered to create a simple emission source before their eyes, time and place of their choosing. MWCNT's and D2O. I did not hear back. Adds to the just go away theory.
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from goldinium)

    Here is the thing. I do not see a displacement effect on energy production world wide. I see an evolution in the manner in which energy is created and distributed. No manpower losses need result, just a shift from lineman to…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from Ahlfors)

    That was promptly resolved in DE's favor. They signed, and transferred their equipment back to us. This is why the 2656350 patent has three inventor names, all assigned to DE. Otherwise it would be individual inventors.
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from Curbina)

    yes. We didn't expect anything to get exciting, but we were wrong.
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    We had / have decent equipment. In the case of the early liquid experiments, the best we could buy. I admit shielding was under-appreciated. We planned extensive shielding (many feet of concrete) after the incident, but then went to gas phase. In the gas…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    Well, the EU patent is a go. So we have that. EP2656350. Publishing 11 November 2020.
    (Quote from Rob Woudenberg)


    (Quote from Rob Woudenberg)


    There is an entire lineup of patent apps building on a baseline.

    Some pictures of the arrangement. The gas phase…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from Rob Woudenberg)

    Gas phase only now. The D2O phase was as much me being cautious and it being simpler to start with. I hoped that D2O would be a rate limiter. It was. After getting more attuned to the reaction's characteristics, we only use D2
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    I found this examiner's arguments antagonistic and facile.
    Where are the neutrons? It's only fusion if there are neutrons. He says.
    There are only neutrons if the samples are externally stimulated, something we were avoiding.
    Calorimetry? It is not a cold…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    Seldon spun off a new corporation, C3L. All activity past the initial discovery was done under the color of C3L. Seldon's business was strictly water purification, and C3L's business was strictly development of energy-related products. It can get…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    (Quote from Rob Woudenberg)

    Certainly. First point to be made was that the project was never abandoned. It was throttled both by the fact that we were self-funding, and by our inability to get the USPTO to understand that it didn't use electrolytes (they…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    Good to know. We sent out all of the samples in their various iterations to a lab to do characterizations of the emissions. Early on, after the film test, we bought a He3 neutron detector, a nice Ortec Gamma/X detector, a Canberra MCA, and all the…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    Oh, I left out one thing; the dissociation of water. At the time, I only knew of one mechanism, electrolysis. The only problem was that required an electrolyte and current. Since we did not apply a current between two electrodes (although some kind of…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    I hope this answers some questions, and prompts more.
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    That was all in the early Fall of 2005. Both samples still exist. I know one has never been replenished with D2O. I wanted to see how long it would keep emitting. MWCNT's retain hydrogen, apparently for at least 15 years, as the sample I have is still…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    I had a quad ms, but it was unable to see hydrogen, either H or H2. It really only became reliable at mass 4. I did not have a Geiger counter, and wasn't there yet, mentally, to think I would need one. I talked my dentist out of ten x-ray film packs (the…
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  • jfloan173 Replied to the thread Deuterium Energetics Limited.

    There was no doping of the mwcnts. The cnts were made to a spec, mainly average length and average diameter, mwcnts being the targeted morphology. We took pains to clean any tramp materials from the cnts. All cnts were boiled in nitric and hydrochloric…
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