Posts by dsm

Alain,
Do you have a link to the later Rossi patent app ?

I'd like to read it (never got to find it earlier, just his 2008 one).

Thanks

Doug

Alain

I found the actual letter sent to Piantelli.

It is here ...

https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=EW4AXIJE6801FI4&number=EP12728780&lng=en&npl=false

Cheers Doug

What is interesting is the date it was filed Apr 26 2012 - I was tracking all these a couple of years back but actually forgot Piantelli had this 2nd one in the works.

I can't recall if that date is before Andrea Rossi started showing the hot cat. I think it may be before (someone might want to check).

Thanks for posting this info - you are 'on the ball'

Cheers Doug Mrker

AlainCo,

a) I just manged to locate the date of 09 Feb 2015 showing alongside the text: 'Communication of intention to grant the patent' shown in this link you posted
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP12728780&lng=en&tab=main
also as shown at the top alongside the patent link text: Most recent event --- 10.02.2015 --- New entry: Communication of intention to grant a patent

b) The problem I am having is that a patent was already granted in Dec 2012. Then Andrea Rossi began a long series of filing requesting the granting be reversed.

In looking at the correspondence history for the patent ( https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP09806118&lng=en&tab=doclist ), there isn't (as of 11th Feb 2015 Australian Eastern Std Time) any listed new correspondence from the EPO to Piantelli. So I am trying to make sense of the claim that the 'EPO is about to grant Piantelli's patent'. In that link see the correspondence dated 20th Dec 2012 where the EPO did send correspondence to Piantelli stating their intention to grant the patent. That letter is here ...
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=ET07O2OB0772FI4&number=EP09806118&lng=en&npl=false

The patent grant certificate is listed here ...
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=ET308UY42546FI4&number=EP09806118&lng=en&npl=false

What I am wondering is can they grant it twice, this doesn't actually make sense ?. They could re-affirm the granting of 20-12-2012. In the link I provided there isn't any correspondence that I can see 'un-granting' it. There is as already mentioned requests from Andrea Rossi for them to reverse the grant.

Without their being some written document on this matter (all we have is the change of date in the patent listing as explained in a) above), I am not sure it is right to claim the EPO is about to grant the patent (when it already did so on 20-12-2012).

So without a record of correspondence this story is confusing and a bit ambiguous. Hopefully there is new correspondence but it just hasn't shown up quite yet ?.

Cheers

Doug M

EDIT: - There appears to be some difference between the patent you point to and the one I am pointing to - yours mentions EP2702593
whereas mine mentions EP2368252 - I'll try to resolve this inconsistency. Cheers Doug.

EDIT2: It does indeed seem to be a different patent. So this appears to be the granting of another one apart from the one I have been linking to ?. Yet they appear to be the same device ?.

EDIT3: Yes indeed the patent I have been referring to is a much earlier one - it is this one ...
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP09806118
here is the correspondence history for the new patent
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP12728780&lng=en&tab=event

Am assuming we will see a new flood of objections from Andrea Rossi to the granting of this new patent.

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