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  • barty

    "16:22 - just reversed the slope"

  • barty

    "16:24 - he just turned off his water to reactor for a while. That made our measured output drop for a moment since there was no more steam being made."

  • Argon

    And cop autoscaled in graph

  • barty

    "4:46 UTC - adjusted the water out to flow into the fresh water tank and top it off Then adjusted the water flow down a little bit."

  • barty

    "4:50 - Sensys meter show 4.152 temp difference"

  • barty

    doesn't look good now :(

  • Alan Smith

    No- this reactor seems to be a 3 legged horse.

  • barty

    don't understand why me356 is not using another device

  • barty

    if he really is able to mass produce them

  • PeterMetz

    If Calorimetry loss is 10% and COP stays above .9 for a while, then excess heat no? What is the thermal lag in the system?

  • barty

    Me356 is having electrical power issues that affect switching power supplies. Ryan’s laptop had 50V on the case of it because it has no ground on the power supply.

  • barty

    Something similar was causing problems for his reactor. We are exploring the power, now, with the PA1000 and it will cause an end to the logging for that device.

  • Alan Smith

    @barty. Nit surprised about the earth problem -in my experience many nations outside of UK and Germany are very casual about domestic earthing.

  • zorud

    i do hope this and the entire mess with power / wiring issues are not the reason for me356 "finding " positive cops in his cellar...

  • Argon

    @PeterMetz I see another problem ther I hav been trying to raise several times. If they take some tem water (say +10C) in to reactro,

  • PeterMetz

    What happened to the Total Excess Energy on the dashboard? Looks like it reset?

  • Argon

    and let it become steam and finally cool down to _some temp_ in heat exchanger, which they are not measuring now.

  • Argon

    If if condensed water is say 8C when it comes out from heat exchanger that remaining +8c energy is left out from calculations.

  • PeterMetz

    @argon: I'm not clear on what they are doing. Thought they were using the heat exchanger.

  • Argon

    They are measuring actually 'cop' of whole system, when they don't take intoaccount temp diff between _reactor_ intake and _heat exchanger_ outlet.

  • PeterMetz

    @argon: so COP too low?

  • Argon

    They now measurre energy needed to condense steam back to water to _some temmp_ other than was temp in reactor intake. Soemone said yesterday that error is not big, buts still lowers COP a bit.

  • Argon

    Yes depending is Outlet temp higher than reactor intake temp.

  • PeterMetz

    @argon: OK. Take your word for it!

  • Argon

    This is not closed loop, which could eliminate that error in long term, but in my understanding they take water in from one bucket and it reurns back to another bucket.

  • Alan Smith

    U believe that to be the method

  • Alan Smith

    oops- I believe

  • Argon

    Alan, thst is what I think, but haven't seen todays setup video.

  • Argon

    Did anyone get what I try to explain?

  • barty

    data freezed?

  • barty

    The experiment will be ended now. 18:16 - stopped logging.

  • Argon

    I think they are trying to solve earthing problem atm.

  • Argon

    Actually testing ended. See log

  • PeterMetz

    Experiment over for today. Lookls like will retry Monday giving me356 1 day to figure and fix things.

  • barty

    he should use this day to dig out his reactor in his home basement and use this one

  • barty

    ;)

  • bocijn

    Will Interesting to see how adaptable me356 and homosymbion are to change

  • bocijn

    Will be interesting

  • David Nygren

    Do we know any time for tomorrow?

  • Can

    Due to the time wasted so far, they should consider starting at 6:00 AM or so.

  • barty

    not yet

  • barty

    me356 wrote on ECW that he's currently processing the fuel

  • David Nygren

    okey

  • barty

    hope this time it works

  • barty

    or we have to wait another monath

  • barty

    also sad that he don't want to write here anymore :(

  • LENR Calender

    when you say we have to wait another month, that's assuming that Mfmp would go back there after fuel is processed again?

  • LENR Calender

    I dont see how me356 testing can happen again anytime soon unless he mails a device

  • barty

    Okay, maybe I miss understood what me356 wrote at ecw

  • Alan Smith

    I think that most of the criticism of Me356 arose after he stopped posting. That upset TDIU and other members, I am not sure that criticism prior to his departure was all that robust -except from the usual suspects.

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    I agree Rossi should let the MFMP do a black box test. If it works, he literally has nothing to lose. It would go a long way with the community that has stuck with the story since 2011. That he hasn't permitted this yet raises more…
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    You'd be hard pressed to get a fake COP of 9 using a thermal camera, according to Para. We know IH got a COP of 9 on a fueled reactor. We don't know what the supposed COP was on the alleged dummy reactor. Some have taken…
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    @Jack Cole


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