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    It is great that folks are "pro-LENR". I wonder if it only takes a simple majority for the phenomenon to be real, or is a two-thirds vote needed?

    Personally, I am really opposed to entropy. I am trying to figure out how to gain enough support for my…
  • Alan,

    There is something else you miss, though I have pointed it out many times. I am very pro LENR. I'm not sure that you are, TBH.

    I don't see LENR as like a political party, where you vote for it. Either there is a definite anomaly, other than…
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    I believe we are getting off the topic of the question asked of @IH Fanboy. Those who do not believe that Rossi has a valid product all would happily change their mind if Rossi would just offer the product for sale that he has claimed to already have…
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    THH, point taken. Unless the thing works - i.e., it produces energy in a way that is not commensurate with known devices - then it doesn't much matter what is going on in the black box. On the other hand, if it did actually work, I would imagine that…
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    Lots of comments on my criteria for being convinced about the e-cat.

    To Jed: by "their own methods", I meant not using some ridiculous measurement forced on them by Rossi. Of course a reputable entity would use standard, well-accepted methodologies.

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    If an e-cat is tested by a reputable independent entity in a transparent manner using their own methods, equipment, and protocols and the results verified by peer review, I would be convinced that it was the real deal. There is nothing remotely of the…
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    The concept that you cannot prove a negative seems to be totally alien to true believers. There will never be proof that the e-cat does not work. There cannot be. But far more important is that there is not and likely will…
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    I think those of us who are skeptical (to put it mildly) about Rossi's claims have made it pretty clear what it would take to change our minds. Pretty simple, really.

    My question for "open-minded" people like IH Fanboy is: what would it take to…
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    To be honest, that is the only thing that is genuinely interesting about this whole affair.
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    No. Nobody, no matter how gullible, who has an ounce of scientific education and good sense can look at the *longitudinal* history of Rossi's scam *and* his background of the previous twenty years and come away with that conclusion. There is…
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    Sorry joshg, but anyone with a decent knowledge of physics who reads or listens to Rossi's statements about science finds them laughable. There have been numerous examples of this over the years. You are just falling into the "he must be the greatest,…
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    (Quote from Joshg)


    That is true. I am sure that most people here think otherwise. And the people here are probably the majority of all the people on earth who share that view.
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    Pretty much. Oh, I am sure that there are literally…
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    IHF: You can draw any line you want through one data point. This is apparently what keeps you going, so good luck to you.
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    A fine example of exuberant extrapolation that is the sole content of so many believers' arguments.

    In 2012, Blackrock made a comment that they were keeping an eye on startups in various fields including LENR. From that one-time remark, the…
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    @IH Fanboy: your 5 categories probably account for about 5% of the people who think that Rossi LENR doesn't work and that he is nothing but a classless crook and con man (as close to calling him an evil empire as makes any sense.) The other 95% of us…
  • "And make no mistake about it, if such proof was forthcoming, there would be a mad gold rush in LENR and there isn't a damned thing that Exxon-Mobil could do about it."

    As a matter of fact, Exxon-Mobil would simply hedge their bets by investing heavily…
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    This is no doubt true, as it is true for renewables such as solar and wind power. The fossil fuel industry has for the most part done whatever they can to make it tougher for renewables to succeed. They probably have delayed the ultimate…
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    Replied to the thread The Playground.
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    @Shane: your evolution over the past five years gives me hope for humanity :)
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    Replied to the thread The Playground.
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    Part of the self-deception required to not admit to being fooled by Rossi is the kind of comment you often see from his supporters to the effect: "if this was really a scam, it would have to be the biggest, most far-reaching scam in history".

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    joshg : Who are these pro-IH people? IH is a shell company that (obviously) has made a terrible investment in a con man and otherwise has no other claim to fame. What is there to like about them? And who has ignored any red flags about them? …