BG has a new video out. At 8:20 he announces a paper he co-authored with Huang was peer reviewed, and will be published by the major journal Nature Scientific Report's. Congratulations go to MFMP, and BJ Huang.
That is great! I was wondering what was the new announcement but had not watched it yet.
The International Date Line map isn't quite right, since Sidney has just set off its fireworks. I guess it doesn't include "daylight saving time".
Well, I wasn’t telling from the map, just from my watch that marks 10:24 AM at this moment (finishing my breakfast on a lazy Sunday morning, after a 36 hours fast, I fast for 36 hours twice a week, been doing it for some years now).
Interesting series of videos posted by the MFMP on a visit to bjhuang ’s laboratory. I am positively impressed by the scale of the operation. Of special interest to me is the claim that water coming out of the reactor is measurably different in density (up to 3%), I am really intrigued to know if analysis of the electric conductivity, pH and total dissolved solids has been performed, considering that the water that goes in the reactor is De Ionized.
It’s roughly 14 hours away for me.
Italian Researcher Mr. Daniele Gozzi has shared the following link to David Nygren and I think is a great resource to keep at hand that includes some really interesting material many of us may be completely unaware of its existence.
la fusione fredda | Museo di Chimica "Primo Levi"
I also take the opportunity to welcome dago77 to the forum.
I think Monty Childs, and his associates, need to be congratulated for keeping their heads screwed on, and not being distracted by shiny things...
Totally agree.
Well, transmutation is what drives the process presented by Aureon in their latest video, but they are focusing in radioactive isotope stabilization for commercial reasons. This is why I posted only research addressing radioactive elements there. There is another paper by a Japanese team with reduction of K40 radioactivity by cavitation, but the pdf I have has a glitch in the fonts and only the very brief English abstract is readable.
eah so we are talking 44mg/L
Here’s the confounding factor: the printed lab results state values in ug/L with two significant decimal points. One can see that the desk image 2 has the values for the control sample. If this is correct, the table comparing the control to the processed water is also in ug/L but with three significant decimal points. So, it would imply that the Thorium level in the control is just 44 ug/L and this is very low (44 mg/cubic meter). This requires clarification, because I can hardly believe that a produced fracking water would have so low levels of sodium, which is usually in
the tens to hundreds of mg/L.
Here some better quality screen captures:
Printed results on desk 1:
Printed results on desk 2:
Control Vs Processed results.
From these one could say that the Control Sample is what is seen in the Printed results on desk 2 image (which only has 3 elements detected above the MDL, hence all others are considered to be not present, except for the Thorium that was purposefully added), and therefore the point in the table would be a decimal point. So the total amounts, if this is the correct interpretation, are really small.
(propbably ugs)
Mark Pinnell , it would be great if you could ask for clarification of the units employed. The results printed in paper visible on a desk in the video clearly show ug/L which would stand for micrograms per liter, which is very small quantities (milligrams per cubic meter, as opposed to mg/L which translates to grams per cubic meter). Also I have doubts if the point in the table is a decimal point or a thousand point, it literally changes the interpretation by 4 orders of magnitude. It is confusing.
Note apart, seeing Michael Clarage playing “The Butterfly” in a traverse flute was a specially enthralling insight of how joyfull the people involved are. That was a really brilliant moment of the video, from a metaphysical perspective.
And last: Why testing Thorium? Thorium is no problem at all as it can be easily filtered out. For storing the waste all the 232Th decay chain products need to be remediated.
I think you are missing the point altogether: The results imply that thorium present in the treated water sample dissapeared for the most part, and many elements initially not present either in the aqueous solition or the solid parts in contact with the solution, became present, thus giving rise to the possibility that the dissapeared thorium was transmuted to stable elements.
Mark Pinnell I agree with you, Ultrasound / Cavitation causes conditions favorable to transmutation in a fraction of the volume, so it would be less efficient, and the authors just wanted to provide evidence for publication, as their focus is to produce experimental evidence to support their DST (Deformed Space Time) theoretical framework.
I was just using this to point out that radiation reduction was already known (still mostly considered to be an experimental artifact by mainstream) and thus not surprising to me, so I have no qualms accepting Aureon results, which probably will be resisted “tooth and nail” by the stablishment, in any case, because “it’s impossible”. I know is not.
I have said that, for me, these results are consistent with previous ones that I have been studying for long time. Probably the closest ones are those published by Cardone et al of accelerated decay of Thorium by means of ultrasound treatment (treatment that we know creates conditions that are comparable to the SAFIRE reactor, albeit in a more limited space within the aqueous volume than the SAFIRE reactor) which was published and came under strong attacks back then (two different papers published in retort to the authors). More recently, the same team this time published about the accelerated decay of radioactive Nickel, In this case they also reported apparent transmutations of other dissolved elements comparing between before and after treatment.
I have attached a couple of the relevant publications (2009 one is about thorium and 2020 one is for Nickel).
Well, sadly the units in the papers are in micrograms/L so is very low quantities, but we need clarification of the units as the results in the papers shown on a desk some seconds before of showing the table, don't match the values on the table.
Now, seeing the table that David Nygren clipped from the video (I hope to have time to watch the video again and get some clips of the results shown briefly before) I see why Calcium was so highlighted, the increase of concentration from none to 437 mg/L (I am assuming these are the units, as is the usual used to provide concentrations from ICP MS results) is remarkable, The other remarkable result is the increase of Nickel from 0 to 366 mg/L. This is due to commercial reasons, both calcium and Nickel are commercially attractive as by products. From this point of view, Increase of copper is also significant. I am thinking of recovery of these metals from the treated fracking water, this can be done with Ion Exchange selectively, it would make a great new resource. 366 mg Ni/L means you can potentially get 366 grams of Ni per cubic meter, and at 7,5 USD/ pound, sounds nice.
Iron is by far the most abundant new element in the processed sample (over 706 mg/L) but is of relative less economic importance, so that's why I don't highlight it.
Exciting development
New elements / transmutation at 45:30
As I have said, this is not a new kind of result, we have seen similar before, and in this case we have also a repeat of changes in both the solid phase (reactor electrode, before and after the process, which was shown through EDAX, and is still controversial to use that method) and in liquid phase (dissolved elements present before and after in the treated water sample), which was done by ICP MS in a highest quality third party lab, over blind samples, which is much more impressive and hard to dismiss as "error".
During the video some things are said that make clear to me that the Aureon team is taking Matsumoto's Electro Nuclear Collapse ideas seriously, the language used is not directly addressing it, but hinting at it with the "just add electricity" remark. This is a move in the right direction IMHO, but also one that will be resisted as throws anything classic out the window and introduces the complexity of many body interactions that very few people want to wrap their minds around.
Well Mark Pinnell , much thabks for sharing that video with us! It is indeed a Merry Christmass!
Is not that we haven’t seen things like this before, but that this is being done for a specific commercial purpose what makes this so thrilling.
May Cold Fusion be the Christmas gift all the world receives the coming year.
Covid-19 origins: A media conspiracy of silence
This is not about LENR, but it is about science journalism; a major failure of mainstream science journalism (surprise!) and the success of Indy journalism. If you think mainstream media doesn't handle LENRs well, the problem is bigger. It doesn't handle large, out of the box topics well and this is a dazzling example. It's helpful context for our work in LENRs.
Hi Steve! Thank you for your input but it has been moved from the news thread to this 'off topic' area as you can see. The forum team decided to categorise anything related to Covid issues some months ago as 'off topic' since we are a forum dedicated directly to LENR matters.
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