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- Thread Safire eyes commercialization within 5 years, with launch of new company Aureon Energy!
Posts by Mark Pinnell
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Maybe Safire are interested in remediating the radio-active steam mentioned in the piece?
The steam was produced by the Clearwater processing plant, where as SAFIRE III will be installed at each well, I presume, so no boil off or cooling towers will be necessary, and hence no steam and all waste will be treated before exposure to the atmoshpere. So yes they will be addressing this concern as far as I can tell.
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Really nice to know what they have been busy doing. Fracking produced water is one of the toughest problems in residual water treatment, so I think is a good idea to use the reactors to transmute the toxic / radioactive water to harmless. However I wonder if they think in the energy balance or not at this stage.
When you say energy balance are you talking about energy production/uasge/ouput ratio? If so that will be looked into at a later stage I believe. Pretty sure this prototype will consume power, but using a reliable miniturized self contained plasma will be excellent experience for future energy production projects.
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A true star doesn't need a can for containment; it is self-contained by gravity.
SAFIRE proves gravity not necessary for self containment.
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Serious work in the lab, measuring properties of some new designs
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If you want to predict success, then follow the money. No one is spending more than BLP.
ITER is...
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Actually I was having sound problems, but I did fix up the gig. At the top of the page there's a 'videos' tab. There are quite a few. This is the Monty link though - listen carefully, he is very open.
Thanks Alan. I have seen that one. You'll have to ask him about direct energy production if you get another interview but he may not want the divulge how they will do that.
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The focus on nuclear remediation is profoundly silly. If this technology exists, then likely so does the energy generation technology. And if we have the latter, then why would we need nuclear power generation, and consequently why would we need nuclear remediation? So if they are successful, then they will fail.
great business plan (not).
Because Radium is a by product of fracking and ships, trains, trucks and cars dont run on nuclear fission engines. And then there is all the products manufactured with oil. And then there is all the contamination that wont get into the water catchments. And then there is all the radiation the cleanup crews are exposed to.
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I have no skin in the Aureon game, but FWIW I think they have a very real and very interesting technology. Right now they are following the available money, as life and a payroll force them to, but I think there is more to come in terms of using the system for energy generation. I wish them every success. And maybe I should ask Monty if he's up for another interview.
Not sure if I've see your interview with Monty... is it online somewhere? I regularly search for Aureon content and think I have seen most freely available stuff. Link me up! =)
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The focus on nuclear remediation is profoundly silly. If this technology exists, then likely so does the energy generation technology. And if we have the latter, then why would we need nuclear power generation, and consequently why would we need nuclear remediation? So if they are successful, then they will fail.
great business plan (not).
The way I see it is that it's is near on impossible for a startup company to break into government regulated grid power generation market as this break through should ultimately be explored. Going grass roots into small scale CHP is also extremely hard as large scale tooling and manufacturing would be needed and is a huge funding hurdle. I see the niche market of mid size system in a well established wealthy market and simple design as a perfect starting point. Energy production on a small scale for home use requires many systems (heat to electricity conversion, storage, inversion, balancing, monitoring) where as focusing on Radium nutralization maybe fairly strait forward if it can do what they think it does and can be applied to a large flow. Even power generation at the fracking site I think will be something explored well after remediation is proven but will be much easier on a larger than home scale operation. Maybe I'm wrong... I do see other possible options but I think THIS IS THE WAY for now. lol
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I wrote Monty a short email and asked if treating radioactive materials is now their main focus.
I didn’t get any reply back, yet.
Pretty sure it still is as their recent business plan is focused on it and they just announced 5 methods of radium neutralization they are now working on. I think it is a good path to take.
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Mark Pinnell -- No, we were talking about back EMF from the plasma collapse.
That makes more sense than heat and I can see how they would measure it from the voltage and current drop but I wouldn't describe it as recovered.
When you say plasma collapse are you talking about when the multiple shells compress down to the anode surface into the quiescient regime or the other way where the shells reduce in number and go back to dark mode? If you mean the quiescient mode then this would make sense at it was at this point they saw the huge increase in heat and low power consumption. Was the back EMF only seen for a short period of time? Would the need to re-establish the plasma and collapse it continously to keep the recovery going?
It doesn't sound like it was running under it's own power at any time so they weren't recovering more than when they were using from what I've seen. Maybe they did see a negative voltage at the supply but they dont mention anything like that that I've seen.
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Comment from Monty Childs in conversation- When we let the plasma collapse we recover an exraordinary amount of power..
I would think that is in the form of heat like the sparadic outbursts they saw... I'm pretty sure the DC power supply they use wouldn't be capable of any sort of regen. That is an interesting choice of words though because heat wouldn't normally be considered recovery. hmmm....
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I suspect that Safire are more interested in direct electricity production.
The mentioned the traditional boiler steam generator but are firstly looking at nuclear water remediation of produced water from fracking. TPV is coming along nicely and might be viable by the time Aureon is ready.
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As for using this thing to power solar cells, they are going to have to buy some specialist cells - maybe similar to those used on space vehicles.
Thermophotovoltaic cells, which is what Safire should use also. I think SAFIRE is cleaner (less maintenance) and more reliable than BLP and the management and team is top notch... we shall see. =)