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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from THHuxleynew)
The following quote is from appendix 2 of the report
In order to determine the nature of the material covering the reactor, a sample from one of the ridges was analyzed.
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostParadigmnoia
Although the error % seems large for the coolest end of the rods, the final W difference, in terms of the total power budget, should still be rather minor. I believe that I had a similar result when I did it, and it did seem to be… -
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IH built the Lugano reactors, three of them, and were surprised by the paint, so your theory doesn't work.
The argument goes also otherwise. The outside of the ECAT was by analyses almost 100% Alumina.
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostAlainCo
I understand now why the manufacturer of the IR cam advise to calibrate, and not to trust any emissivity number...
Alain,
While radiated heat transfer is part of the calculated power and emissivity can then be important, the above posts are… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostZeus46
Newtons law of cooling is likely too over-simplified to give an accurate result, especially over a wide variation in temperatures. It assumes that each unit area transfers the same amount of heat (And also that h isn't affected by T).
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostLugano rods convection heat transfer coefficients
The convective heat transfer coefficients used in calculating the convective powers for the rods can be calculated.
We do this by using Newtons law. Newtons law is given by the following formula :
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from Shane D.)
Thank's
I used the average of both the values with no bias and high bias to get to about the same values as Thomas Clarke reported.
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from Paradigmnoia)
Running his original code gives a COP value of about .75 for the dummy run.
After applying the corrections the COP of the dummy run is about .85
But TC had some possible valid arguments that apply to the dummy run.
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostThomas Clarke's report corrected
Thomas Clarke, in his report 'Comment on the report “Observation of abundant heat production from a reactor device and of isotopic changes in the fuel” by Levi et al' recalculated the COP value of runs 3 and 12 of… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from THHuxleynew)
For your info, I was in the past on ECAT world, but moved here because in my opinion they where not allowing criticism.
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from THHuxleynew)
I did not say that I can prove that the Lugano testers made big mistakes !
The only thing I said is that further analyzing can help to get a better understanding of what is the truth.
But I am interested in Levi's remark to… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post(Quote from Paradigmnoia)
Let me also outline my position.
Was the conclusion of the Lugano testers that the ECAT worked correct ?
I don't know.
Did the Lugano testers exactly do what was written in the report and used broadband emissivities on their… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostThomas Clarke's Band emissivity curve
In his report Thomas Clarke calculates in his Python program the in band emissivity curve for Alumina.
While his Python program presents this curve in a separate window, the curve was not included in his document.
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Replied to the thread Clearance Items.PostI am shocked.
Sorry, it was not my intention to shock you.
Also because you have been and are making for a long time contributions in the discussions on this forum which I realy value.
And I hope you are continuing to do so.
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Replied to the thread Clearance Items.Post(Quote from Zeus46)
It's not about paralysis. The thing is that if some parts of the analysis is not done properly, there will be comments (and waranted) that the result of the analysis can not be trusted.
And I am not in a hurry, do this as a hobby and… -
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Replied to the thread Clearance Items.Post(Quote from Zeus46)
It is about errors.
You want to make the error band of your calculations as small as possible and that, in my opinion, warrants the fine analysis.
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Finer-tuned surface area and view factors may improve power estimates of the Lugano device somewhat, but do nothing for the conflation of spectral and total emissivity for the IR camera setting, by which the temperature of the Lugano reactor was… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.Post
Just to clarify a bit about this:
The calculated power of the Rods for the active portion of the demo is displayed in the Lugano report (Table 5, page 20).
They would have had to have applied the 2/3 factor to each displayed value before inserting… -
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Replied to the thread Revisiting the power calculation in the Lugano report.PostThanks !