Document: Isotopic Composition of Rossi Fuel Sample (Unverified)

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Rossi, as Petroldragon, simply claimed to turn organic waste into fuel oil.

He claimed a bit more than that. Here's from Mats Lewan's An Impossible Invention.

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Rossi claimed that the pilot plant could process ten tons of organic waste and in 24 hours extract about two tons of oil, two to three tons of gas and the rest as coal. Futhermore--the energy needed to power the waste conversion was extracted during operation.

And in a eerily similar-to-the-present conspiracy:

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During construction he received a fresh setback--the Swiss financiers had received a negative report about Rossi and his technology and instantly froze all investments. Rossi continued with his own money, small loans and assiduous attempts to convince customers that had delayed payments for his old plants, but he was soon forced to slow the project. Somewhat later, it turned out that the report to the Swiss had been manipulated by Rossi's detractors. They had accused him of pouring mineral oil into the tanks at night and selling it as his own genuine process byproduct during the day. But Rossi was cleared of those accusations. Funding continued and the plant was inaugurated on August 5, 1979.

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Rossi never produced a drop of oil

By Gianluca D'Agostino* writing for examiner.com:

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In 1978 Rossi registered a patent for a system that was able to convert human waste into a fuel called refluopetrolio, (reflowoil) a type of fuel that was very similar to oil. The machine patented by Rossi was able to make 2 tons of oil per day out of ten tons of organic waste, with the additional advantage that the reflowoil was 30% cheaper than the regular oil. You have to consider that 1978 was a year in which the oil crisis made the oil price skyrocketing, so you can imagine how important such an invention could have been considered at the time.

The invention was simply revolutionary and the U.S. President Jimmy Carter personally granted Andrea Rossi a permanent U.S. visa to come to the United States to develop his research even further.

Unfortunately Rossi chose to stay in Italy, where he bought an oil refinery that he transformed into a reflowoil factory. He called his company Petroldragon.

Since its beginning reflowoil was very successful within the chemical industry, that used oil to make solvents and other oil-based products. Thanks to Rossi’s invention, chemical companies using oil as their main supply started saving 1/3 of their budget.

Everything went smooth until one day of 1987 when just out of the blue, the Italian government made a law, according to which the waste treated in Rossi's company had to be considered toxic material.

So if Rossi wanted not only to stay in business but to legally stay in business, he needed a new series of special government permits to deal with toxic waste. Obviously Petroldragon did not have any of the authorizations required by the new Italian law.

By consequence the company was immediately signed under the government black list and it could not legally operate in Italy. In a very short time Petroldragon went bankrupt and Andrea Rossi was indicted with several charges. Then he was arrested and had to serve six months in an Italian correctional facility.

There is even a founded speculation (based on a suspicious timing coincidence) according to which the end of Rossi’s alternative oil company perfectly matches the rise of the Italian mafia in the waste management business.

Differently than Italy, America has always supported Andrea Rossi and his work. Apart from President Carter’s permanent visa, America gave Rossi the chance to restart his research project right after he went out of jail and was completely broke. Indeed after the detention experience, Andrea Rossi was immediately hired by Big Development Corp. a New Hampshire-based Company whose main business was biomass energy.

Rossi was named Chief Scientist and as Big Development was a Department of Energy’s contractor, several new patents were registered under Rossi’s name within the new field of non-fossil fuels.

In the year 2000 Rossi realized an important plant in Chicago for the production of Carbon from wood’s waste. Although one day, while on a journey to Italy, once he stepped at Rome’s airport he was arrested once again for an old charge the Italian justice was still dragging on, despite the reflowoil story was more than dead 13 years before.

During his Italian detention Andrea Rossi did not give up and kept working on his project. Indeed while in Italy he managed to develop a system to extract electrical energy from biomass that he had started when he was still in the US.

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* A man whose CV and ability to read the original Italian sources, offer him more credibility than Yugo and Krivit combined.

Mary Yugo wrote

" When I write "you people" the people concerned know exactly the subset I am talking about"

Well I don't know whether I am in the "you people" category or the "Yugo people" category.

I am concerned. Could you enlighten me please on what the characteristics of the "you people" category are.?

Mary Yugo wrote : "And of course, Rossi made the claim in 1979 when much of the current technology was unavailable to the best, much less to a clod like Rossi"

This seems to be a very sweeping and rhetorical statement.

The idea of recycling waste oil back to around the time of the first oil shock in 1974 and the second oil shock in 1979.
In Australia and NZ(where I did my Chemical Engineering degree) there were start up companies based on recycling used engine oil

e.g
http://wrenoil.com.au/news/wre…t-small-business/#more-73'
http://wrenoil.com.au/news/

The technology is not rocket science.. based on physical separations such as filtration and distillation, (perhaps some catalytic cracking if you wanted diesel.)
The main difficulties was disposing of toxic pollutants and making the process energy efficient.

A parallel idea ,the production of diesel from biological oils, dates back to the same oil shock time e.g 1979 sunflower oil in South Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

Thanks for your non-enlightenment.
I have added 'perserverate' to my list of Yugoisms