NASA’s Lattice Confined Fusion (LCF)

Moved the above two posts from a new thread to this already existing one. No need to start a new thread on an already existing topic.

THHuxleynew , I don’t know if you realized that the experiment done by NASAs Gus Fralick (which has been discussed in this thread) in 1989 that found spontaneous excess energy when Deuterium flowed through the wall of a Johnson Matthey Hydrogen purificator tubing of PdAg, was replicated several times and peer reviewed published in December 2020 (also presented by Theresa Benyo at ICCF 24th). This research is being conducted by NASA within the Lattice Confinement Fusion work team, so they clearly think these results are related to the LCF work, yet it invokes no high energy particles and it happens spontaneously when deuterium traverses the PdAg lattice. Note that this work has been also replicated with hydrogen, albeit the excess heat is of less magnitude. No emissions of any kind have been registered in these experiments.
I was recently made aware by Mark U of somewhat similar results with hydrogen pushed through the lattice of a Nickel tubing at 1000 psig pressure, based on Mills ideas, where the excess heat was also spontaneous.

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Concurrent AR black hole carousel - in the run competition is very strong

Thanks for the paper.

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NASA troubles in Europe Patent Office 3 January 2023

[https://patentscope.wipo.int/s…etail.jsf?docPN=EP3864671]

I don’t see this necessarily as trouble of the kind that can result in failure to get the patent granted, but it can result in the need of providing a working apparatus.

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..."attempt to metabolize the probe".

Makes perfect sense, if you think in microbial life, that would attach itself to the surfaces exposed to contact with the surrounding liquid medium, and potentially be able to degrade it, depending on their metabolical abilities. It may seem far fetched to you, but you can find litholitic bacteria deep in the Earth's mantle, so anyone with basic Astrobiology formation expects to find at least bacteria.

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"makes perfect sense ..."

Obviously

For people with the background to see it, it does.

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Greg Gobble relays a new projet at NASA:
"Molten Salt Lattice Confinement Fusion
(LCF) Fast Fission Reactor for Lunar and
Planetary Surface Power"

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/cita…%20Presentation_FINAL.pdf

Another presentation :

An Extremely High Isp Spacecraft Propulsion System

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/cita…ulsion%20Presentation.pdf

Another presentation with another goal again

With the paper:

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20220002596

The names cited are well known here, with Nasa GRC, GEC among:

Lawrence Forsley (Global Energy Corp.), Theresa Benyo (NASA Glenn Research Center), Pamela Mosier-Boss (Global Energy Corp.), Leonard Dudzinski (NASA Headquarters)

For the interested, Greg cite :

The NASA GEC Space Act Agreement with GEC

"286 24838 Global Energy Corporation Development and Testing of a High Power Space Generator 1/7/2018 1/7/2023 Reimbursable ----- GRC SAA3-1529 "

https://www.nasa.gov/saa/domestic/24838_SAA3-1529.pdf

He explais "This contract ended just over a week ago.
Successfully completed or so it seems.The Europa Mission proposal began last year."

Leonard Dudzinski is Chief Technologist, Program Executive at NASA Headquarters, Planetary Science Division
https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonard-dudzinski-b3730531

To moderators, maybe to move/copy to Nasa thread ?

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We already knew about this initiative, this is more of a PR campaign for getting support for it, which is good news any way.

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If it gets some attention, I am all for a little PR. Not sure it will work though. ICCF24 was as newsworthy an event as any, yet attracted literally no media interest. Not that the organizers did not do their part trying to make that happen. Always worth a try though.

Not sure what it will take to finally be noticed. Maybe a "sex sells" campaign? We already considered making LENR "glamorous", so why not take it to the next level?

The 1997 movie “The Saint” featured “glamorous and sexy” Elizabeth Shue as the Cold Fusion scientist everyone was out to get. A couple of hot scenes of her on that movie, so one might say it was already tried 😆