Posts by Paradigmnoia

@ Eric it was a couple days ago. I was replying to E48.

I would like to complete one reply here, if I may...

(My apologies to Bologna for spelling that wrong in my haste)

How full is the condenser? No condensate pump:

I found the ProMinent 2012 pump catalogue and specifications on the internet quite easily. With serial number breakdown, specs, cold vs normal operating temperature flow effects, etc. I posted a piece on ECW, just before I was blocked from posting, that showed the poly seals and therefore 50 C max operating temperature.

I have two manuals:

Operating instructions

Solenoid Metering Pump gamma/ L, GALa

and

Operating Instructions

Metering Pump ProMinent Gamma G/5a

Quote from JedRothwell

Which pictures do you mean? Wong did not visit the site or go into the mezzanine.

Wong was there and took photos on Feb 10 2017.

The Plant was shut down Feb 17, 2016.

The suposed mezzanine heat exchanger was dissasembled immediately after Plant shut down, and certainly before April 2016. Or so the story goes.

We are led to believe that the middle window that was used for venting, etc., was missing for nearly two years. It was being replaced when Wong was there, Feb 10, 2017, even though it was in place in many photos in 2015.

THHuxleynew ,

I thought that was a pretty good analysis.

What I wonder is, with a small amount of heat loss (say 5%), how long does it take for the mezzanine area to become a deadly oven?

Quote from IHSupporter

If Penon actually did as he said in the test plan (use T type thermocouple) but Fabiani used K thermocouple software ID -

then a T thermocouple at 99C (giving 4.232mV) would show up looking like a K thermocouple at 103C (4.220 MV).

Whoa. I hadn't thought of that one.

I am thinking that the condenser in IH Answer Exhibit 26 (Doral photos) is possibly the same as the box where four pipes almost go to in the Smith Supplement report, and the pipes are for air flow, pushed by the fans that Rossi claims to have modified(?).

Those four pipes were not installed at the end of the Doral test (see other photos in the Smith Supplement, like page 10).

I guess I missed the part where ~18,000 L/d water turned to steam becomes ~96000 L/d water somehow....

Is there flow supposed to be coming from somewhere else into BFs?

The serpentine needs to be filled up with water to start?

I don't know much endothermic action you can get from a few grams of Pt sponge...

Hopefully he caught it all in that filter.

However, it looks as though the filter would be rather rusty if the filter were actually used.

April 7 2015 was supposed to have the power off (actually Rossi didn't write the temperatures down for the 6th), but FPL reports regular (typical) supply on and around that day.

Just before the test, on Feb 21-22, the warehouse used 1MWh each day based on the FPL records.

(245-16)

This is another billing mess. How many did they actually get right?

Zeus46 ,

As I currently understand it, the COP (especially in September) goes up, but the number of liters of water heated per COP goes down.

That is strange.

Daily FPL data now in the docket, in 245-16

How does the water temperature drop to 58 to 70°C when in that box?

The bottom photo posted by Alan F, above, is almost like a Where's Waldo? exercise.

Find:

Levi, Darden, Vaughn, Penon, a Six Pack reservoir, the Gas Cat test stand, an E-cat...

Alan Fletcher ,

There are several Rossi depositions, in fragments, spread over the last week of released documents.

There are Rossi representing himself, Rossi representing Leonardo, and Rossi representing JMP.

Thanks Eric and Abd for downloading all these files. I realize it getting rather expensive considering the volume of documents released lately.

Wait! There's more: (236-39, PDF page 12) Barry West Deposition (Answering)

17 Q. Did anyone ever tell that you they saw rust

18 on either of those pipes?

19 A. My experience with separating some of the

20 pipes and moving the one pipe down, I mean, they had

21 rust and stuff in them. You can see it, but it was

22 obvious in the sight glasses on the big Frankies,

23 because in the very beginning, they stayed rusty. We

24 actually had to remove those and clean them and stuff,

25 because it got so bad, you couldn't see the water

(page 142)

1 level, where the water level was actually in the unit

2 in the reactor.

3 Q. Let me stop right there. We're only

4 focusing on the condensate pipes now, the going and

5 coming, those two pipes, not the ones that are in the

6 big Frankies. Do you recognize there's a difference?

7 A. I recognize the difference, but you got to

8 realize that the source of what was in those two pipes

9 originated from in the big Frankies' units.

10 Q. You think some of the rust from the big

11 Frankies could have gone through into --

12 A. Oh, absolutely, yeah, you know it did.

13 Q. Did you see it happen or --

14 A. Well, the leaks shown, showed that the

15 stuff was -- now, once again, I don't know where it

16 went to on the other side. You know, if you make the

17 assumption that the water that was over there was

18 clean, whatever that equipment was, it could have been,

19 you know, part of the culprit as well. So I don't

20 know.

21 Q. Do you recall seeing rust on the return

22 pipe?

23 A. Yes, that's the condensate return.

24 Q. Right. When did you see that?

25 A. We moved it. We had level issues in that

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1 one condensate tank that were used. That level

2 needed -- we had to make adjustments to that, because

3 they would get too full, and the pumps that removed

4 that material and sent them up to the units when Andrea

5 finally got his system dialed in there on what rates to

6 pump the material at to keep things balanced, and we

7 lost a lot too, you know, so we had this big tank up

8 there with a valve in there or a little foot pedal and

9 a float that would try to maintain that level.

10 Sometimes when you turn things up really high and

11 things really got to cooking hot, we would have issues.

12 We would have problems.

13 Q. Let's keep focusing on the rust in the

14 pipes.

15 So you said you saw the rust in the pipe

16 when you disassembled the return condensation pipes,

17 right?

18 A. Right, to move it, yeah.

19 Q. Did you ever tell Dr. Rossi hey --

20 MR. FALCONE: Let him finish his

21 question before you answer.

22 MR. CHAIKEN: Thank you.

23 Q. Did you ever tell Dr. Rossi hey, we have an

24 issue. There's rust in this pipe?

25 A. No.

(Page 144)

1 Q. Did you ever tell Fulvio?

2 A. Yeah.

3 Q. And what was his response?

4 A. It's coming from the big Frankies. It's

5 coming from inside the units. It was an issue we had

6 to deal with. They had a trap. They had a trap set

7 there, but I don't know that they ever serviced it or

8 worked on it. And once again, I don't know what the

9 plumbing team did, you know, I mean, I wasn't, you

10 know, responsible.

11 Q. Where was that trap that you're talking

12 about?

13 A. I want to say it was right there before

14 where the line dumped in, or maybe they uninstalled it.

15 Maybe they removed that. I know there was a trap sent.

16 It seemed like T. Barker sent a trap down there. Maybe

17 it never got installed or the plumbing guys removed it.

18 It seemed like maybe it was there, and then when Andrea

19 had the plumbing team made the changes and stuff that

20 got removed or something, you know, but, you know, the

21 rust was prevalent inside those units, and that's where

22 most of it -- because all that piping was new. I mean,

23 that piping that they installed was new piping.

24 Q. The condensate piping?

25 A. And the steam lines, you know, at no

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1 pressure. That stuff was new, new materials.

2 Q. Did you ever have a conversation with T.

3 Barker Dameron about the rust in the pipes?

4 A. Oh, yeah.

5 Q. And what was his comment on that?

6 A. Well, it's just Andrea is going to handle

7 it. Andrea is going to make these choices.

8 Q. Do you know if T. Barker ever raised that

9 issue with Dr. Rossi?

10 A. No, I don't know. I'm sure maybe he might

11 have, but, you know, once again, once the unit got down

12 to Florida, Andrea, Andrea had hold of the wheel, and

13 he was steering the thing where he thought it needed to

14 go.

Quote from IH Fanboy

Who reported that the water was filthy? I never remember seeing the water described in that way. Can you please provide a cite? Barry worried about some rust from the BFs, but I don't remember him ever calling the water filthy. In every reference I've seen, the water is referred to as being distilled.

Let me help you with that. The After photo is in early 2015, so the water got filthy rather quickly. I bet that rust left some telltale stains inside pipes, meters etc.

Oh, yeah. That's water being pumped into the reactors...

Quote from Pjotr

And that's one year after the emissivity email Paradigmnoia liked.

Interesting that Dameron understood this, but the Professors didn't.

Quote from IH Fanboy

It's a disingenuous attack--don't give it much heed. IH did a COP 9 replication. Even Para had significant doubt that IR temperature sensors could be fooled to that extent with an emissivity setting.

My guess this was done with some sort steam-making experiment.

It would be nice to know what that experiment was about, and what about it made them decide it was not in fact making excess heat.