(no claims of LENR, no formulas, no "fuels", etc.) .
Rends
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Rends the biased moderator, (in the spirit of "Puff the Magic Dragon") is going to get a helping hand tonight. When you have paid up rights to what was promised to be the invention of the century and your licensor is publishing papers / making disclosures on the invention without your blessing then you have no choice but to file the paper as a provisional with a plan to clean it up later if anything worth protecting was disclosed. Its called purchased rights to IP using a provisional filing protection strategy and, believe it or not, it is a good legal / IP strategy. With that helpful hint, you can stop spinning other tales and yarns and get back to your job as moderator.
Thanks for playing.
Dewey Weaver
Since you are, so to speak, part of the IH-team that is counseling the people in matters of business, shows your attitude and your dealing with the topic "respect the rights of others" very well, what sort of man you are.
For that, many heartfelt thanks!
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It was IH and Darden that (without having the rights to do so) have copied the Lugano Report and filed the patent.
You are right, it is a Plagiarism, because they used the content of the Lugano report without permission of the authors!
https://thenewfire.wordpress.c…-a-copy-of-lugano-report/Giuseppe Levi Bologna University, Bologna, Italy
Evelyn Foschi Bologna, Italy
Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden
Hanno Essén Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
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Also check the filing date
The filing date is not important because the last legal event was June 2016 (New Owner IPH INTERNATIONAL B.V., NORTH CAROLINA)
https://www.google.com/patents/US20160051957#legal-events
that event was for sure at a time, where today Darden et.al claim that the E-Cat (also the Lugano Reactor) is a not working and a fake,a fraud!
If the officials at IPH INTERNATIONAL B.V., NORTH CAROLINA (Darden et.al) are convinced that the E-Cat is a fraud, then why the hell are they still applying for this patent, or are they at the end trying to deceive the US Patent Office -
Can you tell me which patent you are talking about?
This one ...
https://www.google.com/patents/US20160051957
IPH INTERNATIONAL B.V., NORTH CAROLINA (last Assignment June 2016) applying for an US Patent with the complete data of the Lugano Report (it is more or less a full copy) -
JedRothwell ...and could you explain to me why Darden et.al are still applying for an US-Patent using the Lugano Test Report if it is all fraud?
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Q: (by Annesser): Mr.Darden you are claiming that your technicians at Industrial Heat and additional the technician at Boeing where unable to replicate the so called 'Rossi-Effect' and so your conclusion is that the E-Cat device never worked and never produced excess heat , is this correct?
A:(by Darden): Yes, this is correct!
Q: (by Annesser): Is it also correct, that the functionality of the E-Cat is dependent on the proper mixture and consistence of the fuel that is necessary for the low energy nuclear reaction.
A:(by Darden): Yes!
Q: (by Annesser): And who provided the fuel for the tests of the Industrial Heat personal and the test at Boeing?
A:(by Darden): That was me!
Q: (by Annesser):And did you use the original fuel, that was used for the Lugano test, or other previous test of the E-Cat that reported excess heat?
A:(by Darden): No, I have used a modified version of the fuel.
Q: (by Annesser): And was this fuel approved by Andrea Rossi?
A:(by Darden): No.
Q: (by Annesser):So you yourself provided your own technicians and those at Boeing with fuel that has a different formula than the original E-Cat fuel used by Rossi.
A:(by Darden): Yes.
Q: (by Annesser) Can you explain to the jury, how you can conclude that the E-Cat device is not working and part of a fraud, if you have used your own unapproved fuel, I can not!
That's fun
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I am wondering why the by Thomas Darden controlled IPH INTERNATIONAL B.V., NORTH CAROLINA is still (Assignment June 2016) applying for an US Patent with the data of the Lugano Report?
https://www.google.com/patents/US20160051957
If the Jones Day Lawyer claims before the jury that all the E-Cat tests are fraudulently faked by Rossi, how could Darden et.al. use exactly this data for an official US patent application that is still valid today and how to explain this contradiction to a normal, rational man? In my opinion this patent application had to withdraw immediately! -
What is also interesting is how sensitive Boeing's attorney is about Childress discussing or sharing any LENR related information that Boeing might be privy to outside of the specific test that was conducted for IH.
Jepp, it is very obvious that Boeing attorney is trying to cover Boeing's actual involvement and interest in LENR technology as best as he can and interesting too is that Boeing was in contact with Rossi before October 2012 independent from IH. -
So if Boeing never tested the E-Cat with the proper fuel, then the whole deposition of Jamie Childress is useless, or better, says nothing about the functionality of the device!
Sounds like tilting diesel in a petrol engine and hope the scrap is running. (Or should I not use the word diesel as a German?)
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The feeling that everything here is ultimately only about agitation is annoying me very much, because a energy revolution. which is called LENR, has the potential
save us ALL.
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äähmm to clarify, Donald Trump is German like me
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It is like painting pictures, Howard Michael Appel, nickname woodworker ...
https://www.lenr-forum.com/for…ost-list/2411-woodworker/
...a very experienced lawyer, describes his experiences inside the US law system and gives Rossi et.al no chance at all to win this trial. But, is this really the truth? Maybe, but the Americans have also elected Donald Trump, so we have to see what happened to Rossi.
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Has there been an official announcement on ICCF21 anywhere that can be linked to? I am sorry but I do not know how or who is the steward(s) nor the process.
It is not official but Jean-Paul Biberian made an comment on his blog about the Conférence à Asti http://blogde-jeanpaulbiberian…rence-asti-4eme-jour.html"The conference ended with a gala dinner, during which it was announced that the next ICCF 21 conference would be held on the East Coast of the United States in the summer of 2018."
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It is a general question, is LENR real?
In my opinion YES, because for what other reason would all these unbelievers here and outside so massive engage?
The number of words by unbelievers' is 10 times higher than that of the 'LENR-believers'!That makes sense only if there is something in the story!
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Of course there is no guaranteed commitment,
Thus, IH signed a license agreement on the payment of over 100 million US dollars, without ever having approximately the sum of money available, in the dare hope that in the case of a successful test somebody else would give money. And what is a successful test determines IH alone and if they do not like the result, then the contract partner and all who were involved in the test are accused of fraud but the IP is nevertheless requested. And this should be a serious business? -
they have signed a contract with the knowledge that they can possibly not raise the sum and so they could not be interested seeing Rossi successfully running a long term test
"That they can possibly not raise the sum" True or False? ... it is obvious, read the papers, there is no hint that there is any guaranteed contract, commitment what s ever for this sum.
"so they could not be interested seeing Rossi successfully running a long term test" True or False? ... the court papers say, that IH, Darden et.al do not accept this long term test for to meet the requirements of the license agreement and claim overhead that the test was not successful and denounce it as fraud. -
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I really cannot accept this. You go from:
"IH did not have the money" TRUE
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"IH knew they could not possibly raise the money" FALSE.
As I stated above, and is pretty obvious:If the ecats work and are replicable (IP transfer) IH had lined up large amts of money to be available
This is your problem, you are not reading properly, because I do not draw any conclusions at all (other than you).
I simply point out, with the assistance of the court documents, that at the time of the signing of the license agreement and also later in the for the trail relevant period, IH did not have the necessary financial resources to comply with that treaty. 'Whether' and how they, 'possibly', 'perhaps', 'might have', 'under certain circumstances', etc. could have come to money is completely irrelevant. At that time, they did not have the financial resources at any time. -
They had commitments from Woodford (looking at documents it is clear) to supply $200M+
Exact, they had commitments and no money! -
Where is the problem? There was an experiment (as millions of times in science) and it had not the expected result, (among other things), for reasons explained here https://www.lenr-forum/forum/t…56-photos-of-aura-control -unit /? PostID = 61544 # post61544 . Writing people down for this is just nonsensical, because it leads to nothing!
