Safire eyes commercialization within 5 years, with launch of new company Aureon Energy!

    So true...


    Like the SunCell, when a system presents incomprehensible and impossible behaviors, the associated company seeking financing for system development needs to present a like incomprehensible theory to sell to investors.

    I just wonder why they focus on treating radioactive materials and not on energy production.

    Since SAFIRE produced, I believe 14x, as much energy than was put in and which they published enthusiastically, they didn’t push on on that but instead on treating radioactive materials, of which no results whatsoever were published.

    Quote from Gerard McEk

    I just wonder why they focus on treating radioactive materials and not on energy production.

    Since SAFIRE produced, I believe 14x, as much energy than was put in and which they published enthusiastically, they didn’t push on on that but instead on treating radioactive materials, of which no results whatsoever were published.

    There's not a lot of competition in that field, and a number of concerned customers with access to major public funds, unlike the energy business who have a business model to projtect..

    Quote from Alan Smith

    There's not a lot of competition in that field, and a number of concerned customers with access to major public funds, unlike the energy business who have a business model to projtect..

    Exactly! It’s a “low hanging fruit”, so to speak, where the need for a truly working solution is desperate, so no one will bother to question the theoretical feasibility, they will buy if it works, making the easiest entry market.


    Or in other words “it’s the path of least resistance” for developing commercially and start making money from a technology like this.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

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    Quote from David Nygren

    Exciting development

    New elements / transmutation at 45:30


    It is apparent from the description in the video above of the operation of this new SAFIRE device, that the LENR fusion MEME is misguided and not correct. The transmutation of thorium seen here in the video above shows that there is a radical and yet recognized process producing transmutation that takes hundreds of billions of years to occur in just minutes.


    Thorium half life is 14 billion years as stated in the video above, but radioactive decay is not occurring. Thorium is being transmuted into 14 other elements within minutes. Fusion and fission aside, there is another process that is producing transmutation. I posit that this process is vacuum decay.


    Vacuum decay is a theoretical idea in physics and cosmology that suggests the universe could undergo a catastrophic change to a different, more stable state.

    Popular Mechanics


    How a False Vacuum Could Destroy the Universe With Terrifying Efficiency
    But don't worry, scientists might be wrong.
    www.popularmechanics.com


    In simple terms, vacuum decay is the idea that the universe within the SAFIRE device reaction chamber could transition to a different vacuum state of lower energy and type. This would happen if things spontaneously moved into the lowest possible vacuum energy field and cosmological topology. The Higgs field would change or be destroyed inside the chamber, and the new, more stable field would spread, changing the physics of the universe inside the SAFIRE chamber to operate in an undefined manor.


    In particle physics, the Higgs field exhibits a false vacuum, meaning it has not yet occupied its true zero-point energy. This is like a ball rolling down a hill getting caught on a ledge rather than making it all the way into the valley below.


    This bubble of vacuum decay would instantiate within the active SAFIRE reaction chamber that would reorganize the elements therein based on undefined laws of a new physics that is being created by a new configuration of the vacuum.


    I recognize that the power to change the universe implied in this development is unsettling but get hold of yourselves and try to adjust as best that you can.

    Quote from Wyttenbach

    But a 232Th reactor cannot run on its alone first you must convert it to 233U. Finally you produce the same mess as any other reactor:

    SAFIRE is not a fission reactor like the Oakridge reactor relying on fission to produce neutrons to transmute Th232 to U233. Aureon team are only showing the natural decay chain which doesn't include U233 and they don't mention any U233 or resulting decay elements in the samples. Looks like it is a different process to the fission/neutron reactor chain. Maybe Th232 can run on it's own with a little zap in the right environment. ;)

    Quote from Mark Pinnell

    Just add electricity. =)

    The SAFIRE system is a macro sized Bose Einstein Condensate (BEC)of polaritons.


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    Observation of false vacuum decay via bubble formation in ferromagnetic superfluid


    This experiment has shown that an atomic based BEC can produce "false vacuum decay". As shown in the SAFIRE systems, we in the LENR community can produce Exciton-polariton gas and liquid based BECs that also produce modified vacuum states. It is more than adding electricity. What SAIRE has done is produce a BEC which is only a large sized exotic vacuum object (EVO).


    We in the LENR community are far and away more advanced in our experimental methods over what is going on in science since we are not constrained by near zero temperatures in creating our BECs.


    The THOR system is another LENR application of vacuum decay where the carbon in CO2 is mostly destroyed with the remainder transmuted into calcium, sulfur, and oxygen. By the way, the Thor system does not use electricity to produce the vacuum reaction.

    Quote from Mark Pinnell

    Maybe Th232 can run on it's own with a little zap in the right environment.

    The SAFIRE three reactor does not seem to have produced a city sized mushroom cloud. The vacuum reaction does not produce any energy through transmutation. The two vacuum states are sequestered from each other where the energy of the reaction goes into producing an Anti-De Sutter (Ads) black hole. If you think that this reconfiguration of elements as an action of the vacuum process is fanciful, keep in mind that the conversion of any element into any set of other elements without the production of energy can be explained with the application of common sense or other known atomic processes is not to be expected.

    When thorium-232 is irradiated in a nuclear reactor, it produces protactinium-233. Protactinium-233 is a precursor to uranium-233, a fissile and energy-producing isotope.


    Protactinium is a dangerous, highly radioactive alpha emitter that requires precautions similar to those used when handling plutonium.




    Thorium can generate more fissile material (uranium-233) than it consumes while fueling a water cooled or molten salt reactor. It also generates fewer long-lived minor actinides than plutonium fuels. But U232 is also produced which is the most dangerous transuranic byproduct known. If the SAFIRE crew was producing thorium based fission, they would be dead in seconds.

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