Energy from atmosphere

See Rexresearch page on Hermann Plauson.

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I am quite surprised that this is the first time I have seen this in all the years I have been looking for stuff like this. Anyway, a passive system like this is interesting but has quite some technical hurdles even if it works, specially if one intend this to be a permanent source of energy.

Independent replication about two years ago. It works, but probably expensive to build.

Voltage is not power. How much current can you get realistically out of it?

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Voltage is not power. How much current can you get realistically out of it?

Read Plausson’s patent, is not as simple as it could be deducted. He mentions specialmmotors built for making use of this energy source.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/40/df/b3/cef213c6144f62/US1540998.pdf

This is a very good result, but you need to take terrestrial electricity, not atmospheric, see my topic.

Gentlemen! At a fundamental level, any movement of matter is cold nuclear fusion, that is, a cold fusion generator, an electric current generator and any engine are identical. The movement of matter can be created only in one way - by consuming mass, that is, turning it into neutrino radiation. This can only be known on the basis of a new scientific paradigm:

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Does anyone have any evidence this is true or not true?

The tension between layers of clouds can be Megavolts. So it can be fun to rise a kite but please do not use a conductive wire/cord... Touching it could well be your last fun....

The energy output of a lightening can easily reach a kilo Watt. But this sucks out all the free electrons of the attached layers.

Thus the above is a bright idea often with a more bright outcome.

OKay, now how your mind could manage the "Quark" concept ?

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Gentlemen! At a fundamental level, any movement of matter is cold nuclear fusion, that is, a cold fusion generator, an electric current generator and any engine are identical. The movement of matter can be created only in one way - by consuming mass, that is, turning it into neutrino radiation. This can only be known on the basis of a new scientific paradigm:

First of all, there are no local particles!

Secondly, all elementary particles, including “quarks,” are simply corresponding states of our World, which must be described as a moving material-energy field.

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Independent replication about two years ago. It works, but probably expensive to build

Is this the guy who quotes (without a proper reference) that available current from the atmosphere is 10 picoamps per square metre of exposed "collector"? (I suspect I saw the same video over a year ago.)

I only came upon Plauson's work in the last couple of years, while digging into research on lightning. It seems to be another one of those ideas that gets re-invented every couple of decades, or so, and then subsequently dismissed and forgotten.

Regarding atmospheric electricity, there is an interesting PhD thesis here, from 1964, which is worth looking at:

The electrical space charge in the lower atmosphere - Durham e-Theses

Roughly agree with that

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First of all, there are no local particles!

Secondly, all elementary particles, including “quarks,” are simply corresponding states of our World, which must be described as a moving material-energy field.

Get involved in terrestrial electricity, you haven't had this before. Sanya, you read my forums, I can't help you in any way, I've been on the Internet for 20 years and most importantly I don't remember much, but I'm moving forward as you can see.

Thinking volcanic fissures =Path of least resistance- lightning strikes AS charged water capacitor, From charged water vape rising making clouds ect.

same as..

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Is this the guy who quotes (without a proper reference) that available current from the atmosphere is 10 picoamps per square metre of exposed "collector"? (I suspect I saw the same video over a year ago.)

I only came upon Plauson's work in the last couple of years, while digging into research on lightning. It seems to be another one of those ideas that gets re-invented every couple of decades, or so, and then subsequently dismissed and forgotten.

Regarding atmospheric electricity, there is an interesting PhD thesis here, from 1964, which is worth looking at:

http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/8999/

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Certainly the guy in the video I posted is generally dismissive of any outlandish “free energy” idea, however, in the video he seems to be genuinely surprised of what he observed, and also mentions Plauson’s work without naming him (but shows the drawings of the “balloon farms”) and, towards the end, wonders if not further exploring this since it was proposed, was really a good idea.

I did not know he had stated the available current at such small quantity. Plausson talks about several tens of Horse Power, but I would need to deep dive in order to find an available current figure in his published work.

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Certainly the guy in the video I posted is generally dismissive of any outlandish “free energy” idea, however, in the video he seems to be genuinely surprised of what he observed, and also mentions Plauson’s work without naming him (but shows the drawings of the “balloon farms”) and, towards the end, wonders if not further exploring this since it was proposed, was really a good idea.

I did not know he had stated the available current at such small quantity. Plausson talks about several tens of Horse Power, but I would need to deep dive in order to find an available current figure in his published work.

Plauson claimed to coat his "spiky balloons" with a zinc & radium mix - presumably to help ionise the air and enhance local conductivity. Whether he actually tried it is difficult to know. He even suggested the use of polonium (!) - but the high cost of both substances might have made actual trials unaffordable.

Some of the details we now read of Plauson's work were probably distorted a bit by Hugo Gernsback's usual "poetic license", and his fanciful illustrations.

But patents certainly exist, such as this GB one for a motor:

Espacenet – search results

and this US one for static conversion:

US1540998A - Conversion of atmospheric electric energy - Google Patents

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Plauson claimed to coat his "spiky balloons" with a zinc & radium mix - presumably to help ionise the air and enhance local conductivity. Whether he actually tried it is difficult to know. He even suggested the use of polonium (!) - but the high cost of both substances might have made actual trials unaffordable.

Some of the details we now read of Plauson's work were probably distorted a bit by Hugo Gernsback's usual "poetic license", and his fanciful illustrations.

But patents certainly exist, such as this GB one for a motor:

https://worldwide.espacenet.co…GB157263A?q=pn%3DGB157263

and this US one for static conversion:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1540998

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Yes, I read the rexresearch page, the addition of a substance to enhance ionization and the figure of 200 HP per pair of balloons, all of this mentioned there, but I don’t see any actual data or calculations to reach that figure. 200 HP is 150 kW, I’d be more than happy with such power available at my farm “from thin air”.

And if you flip the calendar back to 1912, then (again via RexResearch) you can read about Roy Meyers.