He does his best usually on OU.com and on a napkin. I mean it in the nicest way he can benefit just needs some CAD.
Oh I really mean it. He has so many ideas over the years. I like to encourage folks with ideas and he has them.
He does his best usually on OU.com and on a napkin. I mean it in the nicest way he can benefit just needs some CAD.
Oh I really mean it. He has so many ideas over the years. I like to encourage folks with ideas and he has them.
We had a house with slate roofs. Once in the a.m. a heli totally violated the min height rule. We are talking slates from the late 40's. > They lifted up and then pushed down the tiles.
The point is that they made a very distinctive sound. Prrr prrrr. I will never forget like hundreds of gremlins on the roof.
Merry Christmas to LENR folks.
/2018 will be the year
Wig volume of nuclear wig is strange - infusion pump build in?
Ahlfors this is unfair. If thinning hair is his issue, this will soon be fixed with modern real science. So he looks like Trump with a comb over. This is irrelevant.
I honestly think he is a scoundrel. But one damn good one. I have to admire his chutzpah. I mean I really have to. If Alan comes back and gives thumbs up will then ...I will look, if thumbs neutral then (blah blah ... Rossi saga lives on)
But what if he comes back with a negative report? What would it take at this point?.
Good luck Alan,
I have said my piece regarding Rossi but you are on the ground. I am more interested in how he manages the measurement than what is the result. Can you please keep a close eye (as a reporter)?
I hope that you report something positive back I really do. But I want to understand that the measurements were independent. As in reproducible, he knows who you are and who we are.
From my admittedly limited understanding I do not understand this at any point so far. I am hoping that you can sort this out.
I am sure that Tom Darden will be delighted to hear that you consider him 'low, stupid, and common'. I expect Dewey will pass your judgement on to him.
Well, with regards to the ecat I would imagine that he (Darden) himself thinks this in retrospect. One more thing, while I enjoyed Deweys fighting spirit in the end he was performing a role for a company. He can be forgiven for that. But at the same time he promised that IH would not settle but see this out to the end. We had bets on this and Dewey took me to task once. We were misled on both sides. That is a shame.
Oh and regarding betting in rossi's here the gold standard in betting is the quatloos since betting in rossis is a fiat currency. Maybe we should combine them to make a blockchain called rossi*loos
It was 79 in Miami today. If you have not been to Miami Int airport . it is as big an airport as one can be. Prepare to walk along way. While they say it is 20 minutes in 'good' traffic to downtown (they're lying) it is more like an hour or more depending on time of day. I really hope you enjoy your stay and actually have something that will be interesting to report on.
And Shane was right on the shorts, it's best to bring them. I guess where you come from you are not sure what they are . Separately ,there is a saying 'you can enjoy your work.' And especially as they say on Lenr-Forum 'a pic of Alan Smith in Bermuda shorts is worth several thousand words.'
Good luck & safe trip.
We should certainly skip the Rossi Quark whiteboard conversion. It is a blurry bunch of scribbles for everyone that looks at it.
(Clicking on the photo of the meters that I posted above will enlarge it further, and I think it can be expanded from that view even.) It was quite large on my PC.
Para it is more than that much more. I do not want to get personal with Rossi but you need to look at the body language in the photo. I have found being honest with people means they become quite honest with you in return regardless of warts.
We are so off the rails at this point. We could and should be coming up with ideas to make the "world a better place." Maybe our time would be better spent there? (that is a question to you para?) not waxing....
Thanks for the kind remarks.
Actually, I spend most of my time tutoring math at coffee shops (and pubs).
I have been following LENR since Pons and Fleischmann, and saw that they were being attacked with religious fervor - they were receiving the same treatment as Galileo, when he challenged The Establishment. Human nature never changes.
Anyway, my bet is that LENR is likely real and that collective effects are involved. Handling QM, QED, QCD in condensed matter is pretty intractable - so I don't believe the official "refutations" are convincing. I also have met victims of the enforcers of scientific/political conformity - so I regard some of the attacks on LENR proponents as scurrilous.
I enjoy doing web searches on various areas in math, physics, and medicine - so I just spend a lot of time on it.
I don't comment too much on theories, but try to limit my postings to ones I find plausible.
- Cheers, LP
Because you post patents (that I love) but very very little comment I thought you were queueing USPTO website. So I was just wondering how you were sorting (just me wondering how someone thinks). It is my nature.
I have made no secret that I live in the DC area. After all these years I have friends still working everywhere here. I have some close ones here and there. One is at USPTO.
I do not advocate LENR with my friends. So without "bible thumping" that I believe in Pd. Eventually after talking about kids, I get to a question "Is anyone suppressing LENR patents?" He had no idea even after I explained it to him. This is not being suppressed at the patent level. This is more BS. I really believe we need to be honest with each other. I research now all the time. But medicine requires too much thought so maybe when I am older
You take care please. And if you have a good OT medical url put it in the playground. I will read it.
I am unfamiliar with who Dr. Nagel is. Can you provide a recap?
Unfortunately, either Mr. Rothwell or Mr. Weaver had not seen my post or do not feel inclined to respond. I would be nice to have a short update on who are the real players in LENR research.
I now there are some others such as Bob Higgins. I admire his openness and educated posts. I do not know if his research is a "hobby" (although impressive) or a formal research project. It probably will be difficult
for a single hobbyist to have the resources, equipment, time and breadth of knowledge to cover all the disciplines needed. I.E. chemistry, calorimetery, radiation detection, materials science, electrical controls, etc. etc. Even Edison had a large group working on projects that he "got credit for". I admire these people, but do not envy the task in front of them.
That is why I was curious as to the status of the list above.
Bob I would have missed this alas, I was discussing the warm in the winter -- Keys in the far Southern US with Alan. ( not sure where people come from that is the beauty of our forum)
I hosted a person who is nameless but I live in DC and we (wife and I) went to see two research level scientists that have grad students also. Clearances were an issue with one scientist, so we had the nicest opportunity to visit them at their home. Nothing is like having a stranger over and making them a friend. It is probably more important than the story that follows. The other scientist/researcher is Dr. Nagel treats ( he treats my wife and I and nameless person) well like we were treated like family also ( both scientists did, I will never forget this). He ->Dr. Nagel has a complete research lab at GW in DC. He is one of the most kindest and sincere and able man I have ever met.
We did a tour (want to see my electron microscope ? kinda stuff) Again he is the most amazing man. And I have a broad feeling he is part of ICCF-21 hence I am going. I have worked for and with many prominent folks. I am not sure what the real cycle is. So here it goes student-engineer-scientist-researcher-grad:student repeat. Anyway he has all the equipment required to duplicate and we saw some of the setups. To say this very kindly the tests --- were not rigged they were real. There is real (almost) real funding behind this.
I asked if I could take pics of one of the labs. He was surely. The point is google this man. He is just amazing. (both are).
Anyway maybe the reason you do not see a response to your above query is that they (Jed and Dew) may not have seen it. The software does not seem have an notification other than the main box , So they did not see it is my guess. If someone favors one of my posts I know that that they do not agree but have seen and ack the post.
I am beginning to doubt if you are human. You truly post the most interesting links here on this forum beyond a doubt now. Then you leave the most minimal response in your links.
How do you find such interesting topics (like all the damn time)? I am beginning to wonder now. I am spending my life wrong "me thinks."
Bet you think I am kidding? I am not. How are you scanning this much appropriate to the topic information? I do not understand. GiVe! how you do it please.
I see using uspto. I just do not get how it is being correlated. Some superhero I guess now.
Talking about child molesters, I suppose everyone knows that Sterling Allan who formerly ran the PESN web site is in prison for a long time for admitting to that felony. It's not very relevant, just an aside for those who don't know.
Truth is always a defense against libel or slander. Rossi's convictions and time spent in prison in Italy are a matter of record, his self-serving web site notwithstanding. Whatever exoneration he got was due to technicalities and statues of limitations and other procedural issues. No reasonable person will doubt that Rossi defrauded a province into ruinous toxic waste pollution with the Petroldragon fiasco. And nobody can prove that his caper with the CERL/DOD respecting supposed high efficiency thermoelectric devices was anything other than fraud. Just read the CERL reports of what Rossi promised, presented as a fait accomplis and contrast that with what he delivered. Again, his lame explanations on his web site notwithstanding!
When you read the JONP record and then the depositions in Rossi vs IH, you can see he is a consistent liar as well. These are facts. Asserting facts isn't libel! Calling Rossi a crook and a criminal and a liar is fact. There is no parallel with libeling an innocent person as a child molester. None at all.
Mary you are a GD hammer sometimes. I was a bit subtle at least.
To the best of my understanding, Microsoft does not distribute their source code. It is proprietary and well protected from public release.
I am not sure, but I think that they do now with agreement since they have to for various agency's. I know a bit about this BTW. Also while source code in large vendors (this is a long ago ok?) is well protected. But developers could get to it very easily, I am absolutely sure of it "so to say."
Know what they really really protect and why they protect it? Hardware bugs. The reason is simple - something that is built in large numbers (like hardware) has a failure rate. It is just the way rushing a project on a upgrade cycle to market that works. These devices are really expensive and have bugs (faulty vendors or just faulty components in batch) well it is just like software.
But the thing is if you have a hardware bug and it gets out to
people businesses that have real money and they find a failure rate they will request replacement of every piece of hardware regardless of rev level. They do not care. Again, these are real working devices that require specialists to replace and install and ensure that the issue is resolved.
You have given me much to think about over the years Axil , I just want you to know the above is absolutely true. I have worked on real things you can see them on a clear night.
You can question me on any point above if you wish. I will be as honest as I can.
IMHO -> Rossi does not have a factory nor customers; just a plan of action and followers, it is quite a bit different at this point in time. He is not holding the LENR "world" on his shoulders but instead he is distracting from our common goal. Our "common goal".
Oh one more thing on software in OS (regardless) there are things called hooks (kinda like tracehooks but not the same) . Just some macros (a few assembler instructions with a label these instructions go lower to scratches in silicon that in the old days you could see on a tektronix I am not sure now, and how it and even if it is done since design is mostly simulated ) but regardless someone that "borrows code" with a hook gets the hook in their code. After disassembly the machine instructions match the macro.
A pattern match.
If anyone here can call me on this I would love to be correct. And I am pretty sure , I am sure here. But I was not a hardware eng.
/Jeez please stop with the moralizing on LENR Rigel sorry
Rossi is not a scientist and the development of the Quark is not an experiment. Why should a demonstration of a commercial product be treated like an experiment?
When Jed developed his software products, did he give his source code to other developers to inspect? I don't think so. You don't stay in business by giving away your work.
In order to test a product, you need to know how it works. Third party test development is tantamount to giving away the IP. A business does not give away its IP.
Holmlid was completely open in his experimentation but we have not seen any new research from him for awhile now. It is my guess that Holmlid is starting a bisiness and we won't see anymore stuff from Holmlid.
Interesting comment Axil so if I understand you this is a demonstration of a commercial product? maybe a dog and pony show to get new investors? or something else?
What is Alan going to look at? ( to respond to 'ask Alan' is a bit well ...)
What do you expect to see? and why do you think he is doing a demo? Notice please -- no snark here. I also have a background like Jeds (we have discussed some similarities e.g. VAX/VMS) There is a subtle difference between programming code and Rossi, it is this in a nutshell--- stuff I worked on (and I assume Jeds) are still in action. My modest contributions either fly (now) or in orbit (now) or just possibly ideas in the code that other people are using everyday (now).
They were successfully commercialized. My "team" and robotic factories were well funded and produced real products and hardware. After all this time there is no comparison; he and his project would be de-funded and his "team" disbanded. Again no snark.
I have said I take responsibility for my influence on this forum. I am part of a team, and we're working to make this place a reasonable one for discussion of topics related to LENR. As Alan says, he would not allow libel. There are a wide range of things that are not pleasant that fall short of libel.
That's more like it. I don't like it when in the past people have done something analogous to accusing someone of pedophilia without justification. It doesn't happen too often. If there was support for the unpleasant things that people have said, that's different. For example, there was a free-energy journalist who was arrested for pedophilia. That topic is not out of scope for discussion in all situations, because there have been concrete reasons to discuss it. Similarly, when there have been concrete reasons for raising other unpleasant possibilities, those things have not been out of scope. If there's something that falls short of libel that you disagree with, you must address the factual basis of the statement.
May I correct Eric?
He is in prison for these acts and for a long time.
Alan this is OT in this thread, I am sorry to respond here. Grassy Key was blown away in years ago (maybe 20) now rebuilt whenever you were there last. We used to winter down there in Tavernier key it also was blown away recently (last year) . I hear now that Key West is back but the main brunt this year was upper keys. The first time my wife and I went there we decided to leave the DC area and move there. This was 35 years ago. Still in DC but coming to Miami this Sunday. I hope we cross paths somehow.
This example of court testimony shows how worthless the Doral test was and how useless that court case was. Rossi has recently said that the E-cat was not a market ready product. Testing the E-cat for marketability was the bottom line reason for the Doral test. You just can't beleive those court documents. Don't you feel silly for wasting so much time wallowing in that court case?
Axil I have followed ShaneD also.
I am sure that I feel bad for all the time I wasted on this ecat court saga. This is why I am faux mad at Dewey. It could have been stopped in its tracks Dewey promised that IH would step up and stop it. Month after month but it did not happen and the cycle is repeating. Maybe I see the world somewhat differently now. He has been running his own tests period , they are not independent in any way shape or form. I have spent countless hours researching studying Ni LENR.
I have no ill will towards Rossi, I agree he is a genius. Let me put it this way, in life have you ever been deceived and ripped off by someone that you trusted? I have and take it seriously. Basic honesty is a absolute requirement in science. Why am I still posting then? Well pro or con you all have become my friends after all these years. Look at it this way Rossi is doing the demo yet again. How about Jed and Alan doing this one? Think we would get the same answer? Sorry to come off so angry not my intention.
When is the demo and when will you be in Miami? I will be there this Sunday and Monday then be back a few days later. I have no reason to attend the demo, but would love to meet some LENR folks and frankly other than getting my hands on the Dewster you are top on my list, but just for a beer and a joke . Also you are not taking a hop to DC I assume just one flight sometimes they hop?
So let's get this straight here. Since I reanalyzed a set of Cold Fusion data and found a mundane way to explain the results that didn't require LENRs, and since I defended that reanalysis against inaccurate criticisms, and since I work in an area of interest to any tritium-handling facility and sometimes actually do work for those facilities, I am 'hostile' to the LENR 'movement'? I don't think so. While I am 'hostile' (really just annoyed) towards those who misquote me, take my comments out of context, and outright lie about what I say, I have no particular 'hostility' towards those who think there is something worth looking into in the field. However, I usually find those people haven't understood what I have contributed to the field or are just openly 'hostile' to anyone who thinks LENR isn't the solution to all Man's problems. But I usually can't tell which path they are on until I test their response to my points. The liars and conspiracy nuts usually show their colors relatively quickly.
I may be a believer in Pd based LENR, but you have always answered my questions quite honestly. It is after all what I expect from ALL of US. If I am wrong understanding something I do not want to spout crap, I want to ensure I am using factual info to the best of my knowledge.
Hi Rigel. There are a prodigious amount if 'New Ontological Theories' submitted for publication. A friend in the (print) Journal business tells me they see around one a week. I am not really qualified to comment on the content or the quality of this one since philosophy tends to bring me out in spots, so make no claims for this, but I have always found Klee to be a thoroughly decent (and generous) chap and a serious student and researcher into LENR. Perhaps in a truly 'Calofornia' way he has a deep interest in things that are too mystical for an engineer like me. Some at least of the business troubles that have gained him a rather raffish reputation are due to his being the owner of a business that he no longer has any day-today management of, but has been for some years a passenger in the hands of 'management at the wheel.' There is probably a lesson for us all there.
Alan are you sure you are responding to me? Can you post the # so i can respond please? The original ref is cut off somehow.
Also have a great time in Miami, and if you get the chance see the Keys, you will fall in love.
I admire Russ Gries the experimenter but the other fellow mentioned not so much (as others have mentioned) . If you provide a post # per above, I will try to respond.
Listen, take care and enjoy your trip. Expect traffic like downtown London after it collides into NYC in some horror show. Miami is big and traffic is big. Somehow they meet.
Food is excellent. I would more wish you were going to ICCF-21 but that is Rigel. Just wait till I see Dewey!
On the subject of vanishing into the night, I would like to put forth the following questions. Hopefully Jed can give some insight as it seems he is well connected and knowledgeable. Perhaps Mr. Weaver will respond as well!
The question stems from my lack of knowledge about current legitimate researchers and their status. It seems that many are of advanced age and I wonder what the status of their work in LENR today is.
I.E. Are these people still conducting physical research / testing in LENR, only writing papers or not active at all?
(please pardon if I have misspelled names)
Are there any others that are conducting current serious research in LENR? If so can you provide a short list?
Can you inform us if IH is still doing any funding or active work in the LENR field with other researchers?
Thanks in advance!
Dr. Nagel should be added to your list. He is both honest and well honestly everything I want to be when I grow up. I have been to his lab he has both equipment and resources.
To be fair I have been to another research level scientists, he is critical but has an open mind if new data becomes available. It is true beauty to see in action.
I want to know both sides as it is educational. It is critical thinking for me.
As Jed Rothwell, said, IH could not afford to risk some $300 million on the probability that an entirely lay jury would believe corporate types and academics over a con man and a bunch of accomplished liars. Not a risk worth taking. Why would they? They did not admit wrong doing and they did not pay Rossi anything. That's a win for them and a clear loss for Rossi.
Alan purports to have invited me to attend (were you planning to fit me in your suitcase?) but in reality, Rossi already had his chance with me back in 2011. Then, I was in email communications with Jed Rothwell. I have described this before but, briefly, the idea was for Jed to put together a team to fly to Italy and test the steam ecat exactly as it was. I was prepared to meet them in Italy.
The plan was simply to collect all the steam and condense it ("sparge" it) into an insulated and instrumented water tank to measure its energy content. Voila, problem solved. Needless to say, the test would have been done without the need for Rossi to reveal any trade secret or to allow any measurement which might expose intellectual property.
Of course, Rossi never agreed to that simple and direct plan for the experiment. He also did not offer to do such a test himself or to have it done by others. That was when I became absolutely certain he was a fraud. No legitimate inventor would refuse a definitive test of their invention when it was offered without cost by a trustworthy group of experts or for that matter, by himself or anyone.
In the last 5+ years, Rossi has never allowed a single proper and independent test of his ecat. There never was a need for a hot cat. There is no need for a QuarkX. The original steam ecat which puportedly made 10kW+ from a tennis ball sized reactor sitting on a desktop in a stable and consistent manner purportedly for six months on a tiny amount of cheap fuel-- that alone was worth billions or trillions and probably a Nobel Prize. If the thing had been real, Rossi could have written his own ticket. Running a silly kludge of 50 pieces of junk in a shipping container? Absurd from the start. Why IH ever agreed to that will always be a mystery to me.
I dusted off my handy-dandy notch filter nanoapp that lets one see the truth in context with autotranslate of R code - what was actually said follows:
"The 1MW is a malfeasance".
Dewey you are coming (ICCF-21) next year right? I need to check here. I am glad to see you still have blood in the game. I was concerned that it was just about business. And the requirement to minimize losses. Not about proving LENR beyond a shadow of a doubt. If someone took me for that kinda cash they bitter better be the IRS.
I quite honestly hate travelling, I know we joke here, but if I can, I want to do it. I hope Jed and many others come. I am not sure why we are still talking about the "magnificence" after all this. But I do not mess with people that think differently than I do. We now think similar so I can mess with you.
I notice (catching up) that Mary had a quite poignant response a few pages ago about why IH cut losses. Also I hope you are still working with IH and LENR regardless.
I certainly did not want this result to happen and wanted it to come to an end.
.I'm just saying I have no faith in Ni anymore"
Experimental reality has no faith in it.
Mizuno has been using palladium for almost 3 decades.
Without palladium Mizuno measures little XS heat.(2017 report)
But he does use nickel as support.. perhaps nickel contributes something else?
Well here is what I have been "not" trying to say directly. Maybe it (Ni) does assist. I am speaking to something different. I look at scams and scoundrels as a learning exercise. I have "upped my game", I had to. (why? well somehow Thomas Clarke was doxxed and harassed--- this is not okay and a show stopper, being honest and using your real name seems to get out our furry friends that need help or at least a cage)
Also I pretty much have an orthogonal view now with regards to the IH debacle. Wanting something to work ( if I may to segue for just a second ==->say EMdrive) and knowing something does not work beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point is well orthogonal. I now have this viewpoint regarding LENR. It (LENR) works but I am sure as I can be that E-cat does not and never did. Some of the people that have completely discredited it continue down that path. Even they should change direction and I have learned a lot from them. (no names but you know ...)
May I ask if you are actively experimenting bocjin? We have honest researchers here, unfortunately we have one that is dishonest beyond reason also. This is why I joke with Dewey. IH cutting loses and splitting gets my blood boiling. But "it" is the way of the world. (old Irish saying) it only involves business.
We have good people here, i would never disparage them.
I will no longer not acknowledge this quarkbullshaite. I have zero interest in it. While I lurk I could not give a flying spud (like that mods).
That is dead and buried. Could I be any clearer? Give someone the benefit of the doubt but we are so past that people are using time energy and $$$ on this , I am questioning others judgement here now.
If someone has questionable data in an honest test well this is one thing, but if someone does this is worth looking at, but I ask myself what has happened in the last "how many years is another"?
As far as faith goes it is the single factor that makes me inquisitive. Even after I am dismissive of a thought and idea. I would not spend anytime on something that I am sure is total baloney. There is something here. I am looking for it. Sorry for the diatribe but it is how I feel. If I am wrong or mumbling let me know. I hate talking past someone.
Oh you mean this book?
I'm just saying I have no faith in Ni anymore . So it (time and money ) is best spent elsewhere.
'Bugger' is term that has been hijacked in the UK. At one time it was a mild imprecation in vernacular British speech, no more offensive than 'Damn!'. I suspect this particular use was derived from the polymerising of 'Beggar' and'By God!' the latter altered so as not to 'take His name in vain etc.' Silly,Buggar, Daft Buggar, Charmng Old Bugger, Bugger it! Since its on-board meaning has recovered its more medieval and forensically descriptive connotation, it may be that is is no longer acceptable in everyday usage.
Well I will stick with 'old fart' or 'mighty wind' for now then.
"by the ignorant mass — which is easily swayed once its imagination is caught"
Bugger it. Maybe I'm too old
$200 for Thomas DeLonge?
I'm just not ready yet to grow my consciousness. and shift the paradigm ad astra.
I looked at your url.
I live 11 miles from Ft Meade and have posted my view out back on the water before to Dewey when we were joking . I am not honestly sure of your earlier reference, from your comment about you and ME356 that you mentioned before, unless you know of me or indirectly from someone I hosted before. Please clarify? Even if indirectly.
I may joke here about things but I do not want to disparage folks. This jump from an experiment to commercialization is now bullshaite without truly independent results.
And now I have doubts about even our more interested trusted investigators. Wanting something to work is not the same ( e.g. like I want deuterium LENR to work but regardless of what I think it still needs be verified ) I now regret all the time I have spent on Ni based LENR on the years old saga that no longer has meaning to me. I try to come here for education and knowledge. Maybe to help. I maybe disappointed but that does not mean discouraged. So please clarify.
Well now I have done it. (there was no harm intended, I do not even try to harm even the doxxers here)
Maybe, "old fart" would be better since that would be nice, since my wife calls me that (but she always carries a mighty wind herself , so there is that).
But Eric if you want to use urban dictionary as a reference look up SMIB.
Or as we call it locals.
Not all would agree.
“The inertia of the human mind and its resistance to innovation are most clearly demonstrated not, as one might expect, by the ignorant mass — which is easily swayed once its imagination is caught — but by professionals with a vested interest in tradition and in the monopoly of learning. Innovation is a twofold threat to academic mediocrities: it endangers their oracular authority, and it evokes the deeper fear that their whole, laboriously constructed intellectual edifice might collapse. The academic backwoodsmen have been the curse of genius from Aristarchus to Darwin and Freud; they stretch, a solid and hostile phalanx of pedantic mediocrities, across the centuries.” (Arthur Koestler, The Sleepwalkers [New York, 1959], p. 427.)
I am starting to like you, you old bugger.
What I've learned is that in business, wherever you innovate, if you put 1Mn$ to develop somethin, your margin is normally no more than 1/2Mn$, or at best 1Mn$ if you are incredibly needed.
Inventors forget the one who put th Bn, deverve the Bn, and because he is hind and thankful, share few Mn with the one who only did the science.$
anyway you can be happy with few Mn, provided you don't have to do the job of the guy who invested the Bn and did all the business plan, risk taking, lobbying, investment, industrial insfrastructure planning and management, exploited his network of tycoon, paid all the governments, ideological and religious official and agencies in every kind of real or moral currency, to make the things real finally...
As I've learned in High Performance Computing, if it is only technical, it can be solved.
Problem in LENR fiasco is not mostly technical.
Irrational expectation, old fashioned innovation culture, not rational greed, is a bigger problem.
This is in my opinion, at the source of the difficulties to cooperate, to hear others work, to replicate.
since the beginning LENR is a planet-wide psychiatric experiment planned by God.
(We don't need heroic planet-savers, but rational entrepreneurs who can understand they cannot win alone.)
Au contraire mon ami, it is exactly what we need. This does not negate the argument for rational entrepreneurs by any degree. The effort required to make change does not have to necessarily be tied to money and risk (which is quite logical) but it does not hurt to have knowledgeable people working their "asses off". The two together make a motivated team.
As for just speaking for myself, I never learned things by just reading about how something works and how it can be exploited. But "the history of how something works" and then I build on that. I am aware that people used my work for profit.
I worked harder for projects that I have believed in, money and risk were not factors.
Maybe that is why I am poor but trying to fix things to make this a better place serves me just fine. I
t is why I am willing to host mortal enemy's (sic) in my area.
Lets hope for the best Axil. I do, but my guard now is quite high. My belief system is now quite challenged now after..... what happened. I seem to see a pattern IMO
-> belief - then experiment then then the verification part is disputed or denied.
But what bothers me is why people that profess that seem "more on the goal of saving the world" actually turn out to be more worried about commercialization.
You know I do not talk past someone, and believe in LENR. Probably why I try not to offend folks here but ask honest question.
Why cannot these claimed results not be repeated independently?
These things don't jive. They just don't. We know honest experimenters and researchers and even critics involved in this area.
I deleted the next sentence so will paraphrase . But it was something like..... we know that we have both honest and dishonest researchers working on this.
Believe in things. But for goodness sakes test the living hell out of them before talking commercialization.