Looking forward to reading the results—heavy water seems a major cost in these experiments.
It will also be interesting to know, in case it still works, if there are changes in the detected effects.
Looking forward to reading the results—heavy water seems a major cost in these experiments.
It will also be interesting to know, in case it still works, if there are changes in the detected effects.
Tomorrow we are kicking off 2 experiments with Diapads. One classic LION, but with extra diamonds,(75) ...........
What happened in this LION replication?
Nothing substantial - the 75 diapad experiment yields a slight increase in radiation over background but no XSH - and the radiation signal is far from definitive.
What's LION's opinion on why it failed to produce the expected results?
Looking forward to reading the results—heavy water seems a major cost in these experiments.
Well, by the kilo not so expensive - and we only use around 25ml in a typical electrolysis cell, so around £10 a time.
Nothing substantial - the 75 diapad experiment yields a slight increase in radiation over background but no XSH - and the radiation signal is far from definitive.
Do you have any more LION experiments planned?
What's LION's opinion on why it failed to produce the expected results?
May be the LION reactor is producing results that are not expected. Did the experimenter try testing the gamma count after heavy shielding is in place? This is a test for muon production.
Alan,
Was that with the fuel pad Lion provided, or the one you prepped based on his instruction?
Do you have any more LION experiments planned?
When LION produces a tube for us to test, we will run that. So far all the LION experiments performed have been done using materials prepared by us, based on what we believe to be the LION protocol.
Alan,
As I recall, Lion was supposed to have that fuel tube to you in April. If so; what happened?
BTW: When is Bob G’s “O-day” ?
(Sorry for posting that here - didn’t find a dedicated thread for “O-day”, don’t even know what “O-day” supposed to be - probably only Bob knows, if anybody...)
As I recall, Lion was supposed to have that fuel tube to you in April. If so; what happened?
The post must be slow.
Looks as though the ball is in LION's court right now.
Well, at least we have Russ for inspiration. Speaking of him...things still looking good?
Yes, more 'lovely gammas on demand'.
Looks as though the ball is in LION's court right now.
QuoteDisplay MoreIn the Oslo Norway lab, the (University of Iceland) PhD student Sindre-Zeiner Gundersen has
succeeded in replicating Leif Holmlid´s work to some degree with laser type of experiments.
After two years of hard work and rebuilding and testing, observations with the same behaviour as
Leif has published started to emerge. This is indicating how rely hard it is to get the Ultra-Dense
Hydrogen phases started up in an experimental lab and replication are therefore indeed very
difficult.
This says that producing the LENR active agent takes a great deal of talent and perseverance.
For what it's worth, as far as I am aware of, Ólafsson and Zeiner-Gundersen use those catalysts below 100-150 °C at most in the apparatus, with no attempt to activate them at higher temperatures before usage. However this isn't the right thread for discussing that; I've made a dedicated one earlier on.
For what it's worth, as far as I am aware of, Ólafsson and Zeiner-Gundersen use those catalysts below 100-150 °C at most in the apparatus, with no attempt to activate them at higher temperatures before usage. However this isn't the right thread for discussing that; I've made a dedicated one earlier on.
Your are not talking about a Holmlid replication. You are talking about extending Holmlid's methods into LENR reaction production.
The catalysts used are the same, and so are the methods required to make them work. I could quote Holmlid's words form his papers suggesting exactly the same thing, which I will later in the other thread.
Bottom line, relating this to the LION replication efforts on this thread, if you don't know what you're doing exactly and why, it's quite likely that you're going to have troubles getting the reaction started. That's also why I was interested knowing LION's opinion on why the reaction might have not worked, in addition to knowing more about the rationale behind the suggested preparation which experimenters have trusted without success.
Some more questions .... I am trying to understand what is known about the status of the LION reactor.
1) Has the MFMP group in California performed any more LION experiments following the one that ended in mid April?
2) Has LION himself reported anomalous heat in any more of his own reactors (other than the two that he later sent to Bob Greenyer?