Randy Davis Patents/Marathon, and New Energy Power Systems

tritide

chemical compound

• T(-) (3)H(-) t(+) (e(-))2

Kirk L Shanahan

Cold Fusion Opponent

Been playing with palladium tritide has He... From 2018

Perhaps off topic I just came across it while studying it. Tritide that is... Relatively little about palladium tritide.

"Nucleation and Growth of Helium Nanobubbles in Palladium Alloy Tritides"

https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/1513364

Noelle R. Catarineu, David B.Robinson, Xiaowang Zhou, Norman C. Bartelt, Joshua D. Sugar, Donald F. Cowgill, Mark R. Homer, Warren L. York, Suzy Vitale (SNL/CA) Caitlin A. Taylor, Clark S. Snow, Brittany R. Muntifering, Khalid M. Hattar (SNL/NM) E. Lynn Bouknight,

and

Kirk L. Shanahan (SRNL)

Thread on LENR Forum linked below.

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Interesting point...Kev quoted Jed Rothwell's disappeared Wikipedia article on the cold fusion controversy, i.e.

It is important that serious readers of these posts take the opportunity to study "Bridging the Gaps: An Anthology on Nuclear Cold Fusion" and also its references.

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take the opportunity

How much do you sell it for?

You should be able to purchase it easily from your favorite bookstore for $13.95 (U.S. dollars). Or, if you need a free copy, just let us know your name and mailing address.

Thanks

RobertBryant

Google review allows 40+ pages to be read for free! Great book by the way, I then went to the library and requested them to order the book for the stacks. On the way... yay! Decided to then buy one, Moe's books had it and wanted to get rid of it at a profit, no senior or veteran discount no less! Ironic, the writers already made Moe some money, funny... right? What do you think... I hope the writers get some profit out the work they did for you and me... sadly not many books break even. Appreciation and reward comes in many forms though, no. Sarcasm put aside I'll just give a Big Bigger Biggest Thanks to the authors editors and their mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers in CMNS and elsewhere.

By the way...

Surfs Up Dude

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By the way...

Surfs Up Dude

Turf and Surf en Provence with ITER?

Ichimaru was quoted for awhile by Kasagi and other Japanese scientists,,a decade or two ago

however the dp and dt collision stuff as well as the electron screening is probably more appropriate

for ITER,,surfers... maybe Cserski wants to catch a wave?

but none of this dinosaur collision stuff is of avail in explaining the transmutations of Iwamura et al or the heat production that Takahashi et al get in current reactors,

Currently Kasagi et al are looking at gamma emissions..for a lead ...but have been over two years examining for them

presently there is only one research group that has actually found significant gamma evidence that explain the results

BTW anyone advocating experiments with Tritium may need to follow special procedures

Precautions for Using Radioactive Material

RobertBryant

Tritide is not tritium

As I understand it.

No?

certainly harmful emissions may occur from little understanding of what's in your pocket. Radium Madame Curie and the Radium Girls

Radium Girls: The Women Who Fought for Their Lives in a Killer Workplace

By Don Vaughan

Marie Curie, winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics (1903) and Chemistry (1911).

At the onset of World War I, several factories were established across the United States to produce watches and military dials painted with a material containing radium, a radioactive element that glows in the dark. Hundreds of young women were hired for the well-paying painting jobs because their small hands were well suited for the exacting, detailed work.

Radium had been discovered just 20 years earlier by French physicists Marie Curie and Pierre Curie, and its properties were not well known. Because it had been used successfully in the treatment of cancer, many considered radium a miracle element, and a variety of commercial products were manufactured in which radium was an ingredient, including toothpaste and cosmetics.

The women hired to paint dials came to be known as “ghost girls” because the radium dust to which they were exposed daily made their clothes, hair, and skin literally glow. Many of the women wore their best dresses on the job so the fabric would shine brilliantly when they went dancing after work. Some even applied the paint to their teeth because it gave them radiant smiles.

What’s more, the painters ingested the radioactive substance as part of their job. Because some of the watch dials on which they worked were extremely small, they were instructed to use their lips to bring their paint brushes to a fine point. When they asked about radium’s safety, they were assured by their managers that they had nothing to worry about.

Of course, that wasn’t true. Radium can be extremely dangerous, especially with repeated exposure. Marie Curie suffered radiation burns while handling it, and she eventually died from radiation exposure. Other researchers also perished.

It wasn’t long before the “Radium Girls” began to experience the physical ravages of their exposure. Among the first was Amelia (“Mollie”) Maggia, who painted watches for the Radium Luminous Materials Corp. (later the United States Radium Corp.) in Orange, New Jersey. Maggia’s first symptom was a toothache, which required the removal of the tooth. Soon the tooth next to it also had to be extracted. Painful ulcers, bleeding and full of pus, developed where the teeth had been.

The mysterious malady spread throughout Maggia’s mouth and lower jaw, which had to be removed, then into other parts of her body. Maggia died on September 12, 1922, of a massive hemorrhage. Doctors were puzzled as to the cause of her condition, and, oddly, they determined that she had died of syphilis.

In growing numbers, other Radium Girls became deathly ill, experiencing many of the same agonizing symptoms as Maggia. For two years their employer vociferously denied any connection between the girls’ deaths and their work. Facing a downturn in business because of the growing controversy, the company finally commissioned an independent study of the matter, which concluded that the painters had died from the effects of radium exposure. Refusing to accept the report’s findings, the company commissioned additional studies that came to the opposite conclusion, and it decried the girls who had taken ill. The public continued to assume that radium was safe.

In 1925 a pathologist named Harrison Martland developed a test that proved conclusively that radium had poisoned the watch painters by destroying their bodies from the inside. The radium industry tried to discredit Martland’s findings, but the Radium Girls themselves fought back. Many knew that their days were numbered, but they wanted to do something to help their colleagues still working with the deadly substance.

In 1927 attorney Raymond Berry agreed to accept their case. Many of the watch painters had just months to live and were forced to accept an out-of-court settlement. Still, their experiences made the issue of radium safety a front-page story across the world. But, even then, the United States Radium Corp. denied its role, and women continued to get sick and die. It wasn’t until 1938, when a dying radium worker named Catherine Wolfe Donohue successfully sued the Radium Dial Co. over her illness, that the issue was finally settled.

the previous post is but an example of nuclear childish imaging.

Madame Curie carrying Radium in her pockets.

Encouraging Radium Girls to lick it.

Duh... unbelievable Stupid

NO?

The above posts provide a view into what will be needed to industrialize cold fusion systems. This information can now be compared with data from the work of others to develop transmutation-based LENR systems (e.g., see progress by Clean Planet, Inc. and Tohoku University discussed in a separate LENR-forum.com thread). While d,d and p,d reactions are of most interest for cold fusion systems development, neutron-type reactions are of interest in transmutation. A theory by K.P. Sinha, discussed in "A Theoretical Model for Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions" (Infinite Energy Magazine, pages 54-57, January/February 2000), is considered by some as important both for cold fusion and transmutation. The theory by Alan Widom and Lewis Larsen, discussed in “Ultra Low Momentum Neutron Catalyzed Nuclear Reactions on Metallic Hydride Surfaces” (Condensed Matter, pages 1-4, May 2, 2005), is considered by others as important in transmutation. The use of gas pressure, electric field and thermal diffusion to load cathodes in cold fusion systems is emphasized in several of the above posts. Similarily, the importance of pressure (i.e., hydrogen concentration) and temperature gradient is discussed for a transmutation-based system in “Excess Energy Generation using a Nano-sized Multilayer Metal Composite and Hydrogen Gas,” by Yasuhiro Iwamura et al., Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science, vol. 33, pages 1-13, 2020. The material where cold fusion reactions are made to occur is a negatively charged component in an electric circuit. By comparison, however, the material where transmutation reactions are made to occur is not negatively charged or a component in an electric circuit.

So how do you propose we load the cathodes with hydrogen or deuterium if they are not positively charged? In the SAFIRE model, the sun is represented as the anode which is supplied internally with hydrogen or deuterium at high pressure. The cathodes are relatively huge discs surrounding the artificial plasma-generating sun (ANODE) and presumably, for safety reasons the casing and cathodes are held at EARTH. So they have an artificial solar system in their test chambers! AND AUREON - the company evolving from the SAFIRE project seem to be making rapid progress both in the analysis of reaction LENR transmutation elements newly formed during test runs - but also seem remarkably successful in generating the funding for future research and development of their reactor for commercial use. So NEPS*NewEnergy what are your views on this?

AUREON energy inc. is the company, many other financial companies use the Aureon Label. Just look up the SAFIRE project's latest (2022) videos! Is it all rubbish or is it cool!?

Be warned though in assessing AUREON energy inc. there is a BIG RED FLAG from most eminent astrophysicists that its roots belong in pseudo-science. In LEN research this is a common (mis)-conception, we at LENR-forum are only interested in the scientifically verifiable bits.

In an above post, Dr. Richard asked: "So how do you propose we load the cathodes with hydrogen or deuterium if they are not positively charged?" My view is that for transmutation LENR to become more successful, the material where transmutation reactions are made to occur will need to be negatively charged and a component in an electric circuit. This material will, therefore, be considered part of cathodes, which are negatively charged. Cathodes are negative. The hydrogen or deuterium ions are positive.

In relation to this question, look at Professor Mizuno's patent application US20200156182. I think that the reactor body should be at ground potential; the Ni mesh lying along its inner surface should be treated as the cathode; its temperature should be increased by a heater internal to the reactor; and the anode should be in the center of the reactor. Also, helium should not be indicated for use in the gas handling system, as it could be produced as a cold fusion reaction product.

The work by Safire, Aureon Energy appears to involve high voltage ionization of hydrogen and deuterium gas. It is not of interest with regard to LENR and cold fusion.

We must agree to disagree on the SAFIRE project. They at Aureon Energy Inc. are making valid LENR experiments if you put their electric sun model on the back-burner. They are analysing the LEN reactions in terms of transmutations discovered after their experimental plasma runs - we are not interested in their astrophysical ideas which all astrophysicists can see are untrue - we only are interested in their LEN reaction results which seem to be firming up over our recent decade of improvements.

In order to determine if Aureon Energy Inc. is "making valid LENR experiments", one would need to know the starting materials, which they don't seem to want to publish. You indicated in an above post that their anode "is supplied internally with hydrogen or deuterium at high pressure". Thus, it is possible to assume that the anode(s) is/are made of nickel, palladium, or a combination of materials that enable hydrogen and deuterium to diffuse through them. The hydrogen and deuterium can be expected to diffuse through the material as positive ions. Pressure of the gas can help in the diffusion process. The high voltage between the anode and cathode can be expected to assist in this diffusion process. The high voltage would also support ionization the hydrogen and deuterium gas between the anode and cathode.

it is conceivable that, as the positive deuterons and hydrogen ions find their way through the cracks, crevices and channels of the anode material (due to gas pressure), some transmutations could take place. But, for greater success, the material where transmutation reactions occur will need to be part of cathodes, which are negatively charged.

Dr Richard indicated "they are analyzing the LEN reactions in terms of transmutations discovered after their experimental plasma runs", I believe that in the video, Monty Childs mentions other materials are added into the system in addition to hydrogen and deuterium, but doesn't say what they are.

The reason for saying that "for greater success, the material where transmutation reactions occur will need to be part of cathodes, which are negatively charged" is that this change can enable thermal diffusion to be used in loading in addition to gas pressure and electric field.

In comparison to the above, consider design of the lattice energy converter (LEC) discussed in another LENR-forum.com thread. Reference: “Lattice Energy Conversion Device,” US 11,232,880 B2, dated January 25, 2022; “Gaseous-Phase Ionizing Radiation Generator,” US 10,841,989 B2, dated November 17, 2020; and “Electrolysis Reactor System,” US 10,767,271 B2, dated September 8, 2020. These patents mainly concern gas or gaseous electrolysis (term first used in “On the Electrolysis of Gases,” by J. J. Thomson, June 1885), where an electric field between the anode and cathode helps to transport hydrogen or deuterium ions towards the cathode. The LEC was developed by Frank Gordon, Harper Whitehouse and Stan Szpak, previously from SPAWAR in San Diego. This was subsequent to “System and Method for Generating Particles,” US 8,419,191, dated April 16, 2013 that concerns liquid electrolysis. The three LEC-related patents talk, among other things, about using electromagnetic energy to ionize gas in the reactor; varying an electric current between the anode and cathode to control hydrogen/deuterium flux into and out of the cathode; heating the cathode to increase hydrogen diffusion into it and increase internal energy of its lattice structure; and, conducting heat away from the cathode to help control the ion flux, prevent the cathode from overheating, and recover heat energy produced. The design doesn’t seem to allow one side of the cathode to be easily cooled while (the other side of) the cathode is heated, and gas pressure is not emphasized, along with thermal diffusion and electric fields, for loading the cathode.