Wet Plasma LENR UK Patent 1989.

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    A very interesting GB patent from 1989, It is for underwater plasma fusion, using light water or heavy water, they talk about Rydberg hydrogen, UV and particle emissions and give quite a lot of detail. One of the principal inventors, C.J.Davies lives not so far from me, but he was born in 1933 so possibly no longer available. The other's I haven't traced, but their names are not familiar as part of the usual crowd of LENR suspects.



    plasma fusion wet patent..pdf

  • You might need to revise some of the details above. The patent application (withdrawn) is from 1999 and the inventor is named Christopher Eccles. It reminds of Mizuno-type (or Mondaini in a simplified form) plasma electrolysis cells.

  • Shane D.

    Even if Hydrinos aren't directly mentioned their theory in the patent applications seems to be based on BLP's so there's a chance they received cease&desist letters from the company.


    It might also be that unexpected problems with input power measurements due to the high-frequency switching circuit got discovered later on and in the end the device did not perform as initially thought.


    Despite them mentioning secret catalysts in an interview, similar power gains (or higher) have been claimed in their absence by other people who tried to replicate the general plasma electrolysis process. Here's Naudin with a 200% gain: https://web.archive.org/web/20…rs.com/cfr/html/cfr30.htm

  • I meant that people have often measured efficiencies greater or much greater than 100% with plasma electrolysis systems without using secret components or catalysts, but often neglecting accurate input power measurements. Even without deliberately using a fast switching circuit for driving the plasma reaction, it will be far from being a clean resistive load and so calculating power as V*I at a low rate won't work properly. Furthermore water can apparently get efficiently vaporized (atomized?) in the process without this being the result of heat/turning to steam.

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    Anyone know what happened to Chris Eccles and his invention?


    I suspect he is the same Dr. Eccles who worked as an Oncology consultant and radiotherapy expert at a big London hospital - but if so he has a slim record of publications - just one that I think was partly his work, on the use of ultrasound along with radiotherapy for tumour treatment.

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    Good find Ahlfors. This part of the patent I found particularly interesting, since the method of electrode manufacture described results in something with a strong 'family resemblance' to a Mizuno electrode.



    The Anode Process

    The anode process differs from that of a conventional cell

    10 electrolytic cell provided with such a cathode. The invention

    also teaches a novel method of making such a cathode and

    a novel method of releasing gaseous products from an SDV

    cell.in that the oxygen over-voltage is rarely exceeded and the

    reaction at the anode is one of the formation of a

    (conductive) layer of a matrix of ferrous- and feroso-ferrous- 15

    oxide over the plain steel electrode. There is some liberation,

    albeit slowly, of gaseous oxygen at the anode but this is

    small in comparison with the ejection of H2 from the

    cathode, which occurs prolifically and often (as would be

    expected given the pressure within the crystalline absorption 20

    mechanism at work) with some minor violence when

    observed under the microscope.

    There is, obviously, some likely benefit in obtaining

    hydrogen from such a process which is relatively free of

    associated oxygen but, to date, the gaseous mix from experi- 25

    mental SDV cells has not been such as to bring the O2 level

    down below the LEL for hydrogen/oxygen mixture, and

    such cells should not be regarded as being intrinsically safer

    than conventional ones.

    One method of creating an SDV electrode is described 30

    below.

    The invention discloses the provision of bi-metallic interfaces on the active, electrolyte-contacting surface of an

    electrode which produces hitherto unobserved electrochemical phenomena. The use of dissimilar metallic materials on

    the active surface facilitates lattice diffusion of gases within

    the crystal structure of the electrode.

    An SDV cell according to the invention acts as an

    "over-unity" cell in respect of hydrogen gas production from

    the cell. The cell operates at low voltages of no more than

    1 volt, preferably no more than 0.8 volt and typically from

    0.2 to 0.6 volts. However even lower operating voltages are

    feasible.

    What is claimed is:

    1. An electrode having an active surface for contacting

    and electrolyte comprising first and second metallic materials arranged to provide a plurality of first metallic material

    to second metallic material interfaces at said active surface,

    wherein said first metallic material comprises steel and said

    second metallic material comprises nickel.

    The electrode which is to become the cathode in an SDV

    cell is made by taking a sheet of ordinary mild steel as the

    substrate 2 and creating on its surface a series of

    irregularities, in the form of trough regions 4 and raised

    regions 5 (see FIG. 1), by etching the steel in a bath of

    concentrated (50-55%) sulphuric acid. The natural impurity

    2. An electrode according to claim 1, wherein said first

    metallic material comprises a substrate of the electrode and

    said second metallic material is an electroplated layer over

    35 regions of the substrate.

    3. An electrode According to claim 2, wherein said

    substrate has an uneven surface with exposed, unplated

    raised portions and trough portions plated with said second

    metallic material, the unplated raised portions and plated

    of most commonly available mild steel ensures that etching

    will take place in a random and irregular manner. Mostly,

    this is caused by the presence of finely divided granular

    alpha-ferrite which appears to be preferentially attacked by

    the acid.

    40 second metallic material providing the said active surface.

    4. An electrode according to claim 3, wherein the said

    raised portions of the substrate have an average spacing

    After inspection of the surface and the determination of distribution of from 0.03 mm to 0.05 mm.

    the average size of the nodes or raised regions on the

    roughened steel (optimally these should be at 0.03-0.05 mm 45

    distribution), the surface is passivated in concentrated nitric

    acid and further passivated in a chromic acid bath.

    The roughened surface of the steel substrate 2 is then

    given a 25-micron coating 6 of nickel by the "electroless"

    process, also known as auto-catalytic chemical deposition 50

    (see FIG. 2). This plating process provides accretion of

    deposited nickel in the trough regions 4 and thinner deposits

    of nickel on the raised regions 5.

    After coating, the electrode is machined or ground, e.g.

    using a linishing sander and 120 grit silicon carbide paper 55

    belt, to remove the "peaks" of the plated raised regions 5 and

    in particular to remove the plated nickel from these "peaks"

    so as to expose the steel of the substrate 2 (see FIG. 3). In

    this way a plurality of metal-to-metal interfaces are created

    on the active surface of the cathode between the nickel 60

    plated regions on the trough regions 4 of the substrate 2 and

    the exposed steel surfaces of the substrate. Constant microscopic inspection is required to determine the existence of

    the correct bi-metallic interfaces on the active surface of the

    electrode. If the electrode is to be used with only one active 65

    surface (SAS electrode), no treatment is given to the other

    plated surface, which will remain electrochemically inactive

    5. An electrode according to claim 1, wherein said first

    metallic material comprises mild steel.

    6. An electrode according to claim 1, wherein said second

    metallic material comprises a matrix of nickel and chromlUm.

    7. An electrode according to claim 1, wherein the electrode is generally fiat and has an active surface on each of

    its opposite sides.

    8. An electrolysis cell for obtaining the release of gaseous

    products by electrolysis, comprising an electrolyte, an anode

    and a cathode in the form of an electrode according to claim

    1.

    9. A cell according to claim 8, wherein the electrolyte

    comprises dilute sulphuric acid.

    10. A cell according to claim 8, wherein the electrolyte

    comprises lithium sulphate monohydrate, nickel sulphate

    hexahydrate, chromium sulphate or palladous chloride.

    11. A method of obtaining release of gas from an electrolysis cell according to claim 8, comprising applying a

    decomposition voltage of no more than 1 volt across the

    anode and cathode of the electrolysis cell.

    12. The method of claim 11, wherein the step of applying

    the decomposition voltage comprises applying a decomposition voltage of no more than 0.8 volts.

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    Let us first consider a cell which liberates hydrogen gas by the electrolysis of water containing a standard electrolyte 55 such as H2S04 or Li2S04


    Patterson's power cells did use lithium sulphate as well.. Between others he recommended to avoid any traces of sodium in electrolyte, as he claimed it kills the nuclear reaction and evolution of heat.


    Quote

    A cell according to claim 8, wherein the electrolyte comprises lithium sulphate monohydrate, nickel sulphate hexahydrate, chromium sulphate or palladous chloride.


    Patterson also did use fluid bed cathode layered by nickel and palladium (a spill-off catalyst for nickel?). It seems that Eccles merely mirrored Patterson's electrolyser.

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    I must admit btw, that i have been thinking about the production of hydrogen by electrophoresis...and this is effectively the same thing.


    Speaking of electrophoresis, this demonstration vested my interest before some time... It's main idea is, water molecules in narrow pores are subjected to DC EM field and forced to collide. Because they have nowhere to dodge, it may lead to separation of H-O bonds. Overunity effect is claimed during this.


    BTW Does someone have recent info about Lipinski brothers and their Unified Gravity process? IMO it's the most reliable cold fusion arrangement and as such it disappeared from the web w/out trace in similar way, like reports about nuclear fission during WWW II.

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