Posts by Tarun

    It is good to see Parkhomov is still in the lenr scene. I was almost suspicious that he dropped out because he couldn't replicate his own results. But surprisingly comes up with a better experiment, and some encouraging results. I like the setup and finally people are moving towards proper calorimetry instead of bug ridden methods. MFMP may take note, they are simply wasting time.


    The report is brief, and there is no data, so I guess we need to wait and see if he provides any data (inlet/outlet temperatures etc).


    60W excess over 300W input is significant in my opinion.

    @me356


    Here is my uneducated opinion -


    1 - Patents do not work. They will only provide you a time lead. The time it takes for someone else to develop a variant of your product is the time you get to make money (as a monopoly). After that you still make money (because of the brand), but now you must compete with low priced and better products.
    2 - If it is a physical phenomenon, it cannot be patented. You can patent embodiments and applications. But someone else will come up with another embodiment and application very soon. A patent can try to cover all embodiments using legal language, but people will make their own version anyway and prefer to fight in the court for years, because they will be making billions anyway, no matter what the judgement is.
    3 - Some countries can legally allow production of the product, even if it is patented, and if it is for public benefit (such as life saving drugs).
    4 - Many countries do not respect patents, these are also powerful manufacturing hubs.
    5 - Your patent will possibly infringe on other past patents. There are hundreds of lenr patents.


    Bottom line : You cannot stop copying and improvisation of your product by others.


    The only way is to release a lower version in the market (say with low COP) and wait for a few years till the copy cats invest most of their money in the lower version. Release your improved version after that. This will give you even more time. But it will also get copied. Just repeat till you are a billionaire. You will of course need big partners to do this. Do not have a single partner, keep many options.


    There is one other way. Release your invention as open source hardware (search google for it). It has a GNU type license. Here you license it as open source, but reserve the use for some heavy applications (such as military). The big boys usually pay because they are backed by governments and cannot violate the license. You product will get copied widely, but you will still earn a good money from legal entities (military, gov, public sector companies etc).


    Remember that you cannot monopolize it, but you can benefit from it hugely. Keeping it secret will only delay it and you may end up inside big sharks. Rossi is a good example of what not to do.


    All the best ! and thanks for your efforts in this research.

    @Abd
    Thanks for your review. The latest doc appears to be a repeat of the complaint.


    If the second amendment is proven to be invalid/illegal, Rossi loses the case. (GPT not completed on time)
    If the second amendment is proven to be valid/legal, Rossi loses the case. (6 cylinder version was not used)


    Thats the crux of it all now, as I understand it. The rest of the arguments, like patents and sharing of the IP with others are very weak. This is because the agreement favors IH too much.


    I found an interesting footnote (see attachment). LC/Rossi claim that the agreement was prepared by the defendants. Compare that with the statements of DW here on forum, that the agreement was drafted by Rossi and IH agreed to sign on it. (Please search and find it, dont have link).


    At least one of the parties (or both) are lying here. This is unfortunate. This also brings most of the statements by both Rossi and DW under doubt. In my personal opinion (not fact) the agreement was drafted by IH, since it favors IH entirely. It'd be very odd for Rossi to draft something that makes him a slave of IH, I think he is not that dumb.


    Of course I may be wrong, and Rossi in fact did draft it in order to gain the 100M, so I'm prepared to accept that.


    It is still a puzzle for me, why on earth Rossi proceed with the 1 year test (GPT) when his partner Amp. and IH both were not interested? Any opinions?

    @barty
    Why would you even think that banning a subject will cause people to become more friendly and civilized and they will behave less like animals?
    If you do not allow a subject A, they will just sling mud on another subject B....they will simply find a reason to insult and attack others. Topic doesn't matter.


    Also, there is a need to allow the freedom of expression, as long as it is kept civil and scientific. It has to be done for all lenr (or other) techs.
    So I suggest just keep deleting the bad posts and keep banning the people (may be after 3 warnings) instead of stopping all discussion.

    I think you are pretty much 'spot on.'


    I guess there will be a lot of RF noise there with so much "sparking" going on in the dusty plasma. So it can mess with your electronics and instruments. That explains why @me356 is getting RF. Not very sure about neutrons or other radiation.... can't see how we can have them without any nuclear reactions going.
    I hope your next experiment will throw more light on it. So all the best ! and keep us updated....

    @Tarun: they seem to be using dry powder, not a slurry.


    Dusty might be in reference to dusty plasmas.


    It shouldn't remain dry for long with molten Li in it.
    If its really a plasma with Ni/Li nanoparticles suspended in it, then the claims of me356 look more plausible.


    Here is my hypothesis about the use of ultrasonic generator. What it does is lifts the Ni/Li nanoparticles in the gas (H2 here) and creates an aerosol. When HV is applied to the electrodes in the reactor, we get a discharge, turning the gas into a plasma (with suspended particles in it). Plasma is nothing but dissociated H2 (protons). This somehow results in a LENR going. To stop it you simply need to turn the HV and US waves off, and it should slowly settle down and H would revert to H2, stopping the reaction.


    I guess, there is a good chance of success if this is tried. I think @Alan Smith is ready with his plasma reactor and should add the US to it. A hammer stroke should also do the job of mixing the Ni dust into the plasma and setting is ablaze with LENR for a while (hint hint ;) )

    Working in obscurity and attempting to keep total control of this invention is a dead end.


    I generally agree (and gave a thumbs up to your comment). But I want to bring to everyone's notice that me356 never said anything like this. On the contrary, he said he will share everything about the tech (when, not known). I guess he is giving commercialization a try, and if he fails, it will be most probably open sourced.
    Lets hope this will not take decades.

    From the updated version, it looks like there is some secrecy going on here, which will stop any further replications and will keep this under darkness like many more interesting but secret lenr experiments.
    I was also interested in knowing the answer to below question, but I guess it was lost in translation:


    Q: In the experiment with the fuel, were the temperatures controlled by the PID?
    Why were the temperatures not at controlled values?
    A: In the fueled experiment, the temperature was controlled by the PID controller .

    Note to others that Dewey, like Rossi, or Jed make claims without much evidences.


    I noticed that since the beginning. There is no evidence that this man has any official information. There is no reason to believe anything he says, but I find him entertaining, even if less refined. If he is really from IH, then its a PR disaster, any money paid to APCO is a waste.
    To keep the record clean, I do not take anything that Rossi says seriously, especially after the suit. This IH-Rossi affair has made waters murkier. Difficult to trust anyone.
    Let the court decide. Popcorn please :D

    It looks like I touched a sensitive nerve of Mr Weaver with just one post ;)
    Let me see... he is repeating only one thing since he arrived on the scene (no points for guessing what it is). So that puts us in the same school, although he is much senior than rest of us and is probably being trained under Mr Krivit, THE great Krivit, a master of this art.

    They appear to have measured their temperature through it single spot on the reactor core.


    Good point. A hot spot is likely. Although since its on the end of the tube and the tube is made of steel, the chances are less.
    So a re-calibration is necessary after the experiment. Probably with the vessel filled with only Ni and Ar.
    A calorimetric setup will clear this issue (and perhaps bring up new issues).

    I'm glad, IH refused to pay and refused to cancel the agreement (even when offered the money back by Rossi). It all hit the fan now and we will get to see it with our own eyes being debated in the court. All in open. This is one side of the coin.
    The other side is, no E-Cats for people for many years to come, at least in the US.

    The calorimetry the ERV must be using (phase change) is clearly different from that stipulated in the license agreement since that suggests power be calculated from flow rate and deltaT sensors.


    Its easy to see why this is not an issue. ERV sent regular reports to IH (is it monthly?) in which it would have been very clear what method he is using, and unless TD and co. are total dummies and don't understand their own agreement, they'd notice and demand a correction.
    Secondly, during the regular visits by IH employees and others, they would have noticed how its being measured and reported, and would have demanded a correction, else could have asked to stop the test. It shouldn't take 1 year to notice this, unless.....IH was in bed with AR and let him carry on with his tricks for some reason. (perhaps to get more investor money?)


    In the end, it doesn't make sense, and one must assume that the method of calculating COP was agreed upon by the trio ERV, IH and AR.


    The argument that something else was written in the agreement, so its all a big fake doesn't hold water in the light of above. No benefit in repeating it again and again.

    There a total of $89M other reasons and the aim to keep IP and Rossi in a NDA leash.


    I think its a better strategy to silently pay off $89M and keep the IP and the license agreement in their pocket...forever.
    Because we know that its worth trillions! 89M is peanuts actually.


    Its very shocking to see how IH managed to get AR sign an agreement which is 99.99% in their favor and effectively leaves nothing for AR. They already have everything they need for peanuts. So it makes no sense to wake up the sleeping serpent by poking a stick in its underground nest. It will bite, and thats what AR did. They could have happily had everything in just 89M, keeping it all silent, opaque, secret and whatever.


    So it doesn't make sense. The reason for their decision to not to pay seems to be something else, which we will see in the court.

    I hope they are not reproducing the same old k-type thermocouple breakdown effect at high temperatures (and other oddities).
    All the reports coming from there are very strange and ambiguous -- I find
    -no data,
    -no calibration,
    -no explanation of how the COP was calculated,
    -no maths / error estimations /margins
    -no elemental analysis,
    -no radiation measurements
    -no calorimetry.....
    -no peer reviews
    -no answers to important questions raised by us here.


    ....NOTHING, just claims!


    Anyhow, I'm very impressed by the quality of engineering and equipment, and of course their willingness to do the experiments on LENR, when the usual western researchers are terrified of even touching it. They have the means and the will, they lack the method.

    there is no such thing as a free lenr lunch.


    Absolutely correct.
    By asking for money in return of something, one invites exactly those kind of people, who, in turn, would expect even more money from their investments. The circle expands and soon you have a group of people trying to control everything and selling something that's worth $100 at $million, manipulating, stealing and lying ... just for profit.
    I guess it has already happened, sounds familiar. :D


    So what is the best way if you want some returns? Its highly debatable, but surely it has to be done in moderation. Release the proof of concept, get lots of money (because you have an open proof now) and move on to the next iteration, while letting others replicate and use your lower iteration.


    Of course, you will lose the billions that you could have earned by keeping it a complete secret and controlling it very tightly by laws, patents, hook or crook. And you will earn a modest in $millions or so, but if you count time as currency and happiness of others as profit (good will), then you will be in trillions. And you will save yourself from getting destroyed by mean, greedy and powerful forces. Because once it is a secret which only one man holds, its very easy to suppress it or take advantage of it. Not if its already spread wide and far. Nothing can stop it then, and corrupt people leave you alone.


    How will @me356 handle it? Will he end up like Rossi, or will he do something smarter? We will see.....

    Tarun : it's been reported that the formation of Rydberg state atoms and Rydberg Matter of one element/molecules can catalyze the formation of the same of other elements (e.g. Hydrogen), so - if this is what is really happening in Alan Smith's cell......


    That's surely a million $ question, is it actually happening in that reactor? How to know for sure? Is there a litmus test for RM?
    And even before that, is RM certainly, without any doubts, proven, indicator of LENR? If there are no rock solid answers, then I say, move on, don't care about someone else's theoretical stuff. Write your own little theory and test it on your own little reactor. If an experiment stands on firm ground, there is some hope for it. (I'm not preaching, just an opinion ;))

    It looks like you recreated the MFMP "signal", only that its just EM interference, which supports the observation that a sudden and big voltage change was seen exactly at the time of the "signal" #7. Such rapid change means a spark or break/make event in power supply system causing intense EM interference in electronics around it.
    The last MFMP experiment (done very carefully, I must say) did not show any signal, which also rules it out.


    The take home message is, a one time anomaly does not mean that there is a signal. It has to be repeatable and one must be able to trace its source to the powder inside the reactor (like no powder == no signal). If there is some strange phenomena, then you have discovered another thing, unrelated to LENR, good, but not useful for this purpose.


    So what is the perfect sign or a signal? It has to be multiple things, like radiation (preferably particles, not photonic), excess heat and transmutations or isotopic shifts. And all this must be well above error margins, and must be reproducible by different people and in different labs....


    Did I just set an impossible criteria? I guess, its a bit too strong, but this is how Science works.