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Frank: IH made the reactor, IIRC.

So IH do have Rossi's IP surprise surprise!

Best regards
Frank

Don't think this is a surprise...didn't Rossi take care of the "secret" powder in this reactor?

Did anyone hear that barking? Sounds like an ankle biter left in a hot locked car by its owner with the windows rolled up. Better call the dog catcher and get some help for that poor critter. I can barely hear it now.

@Malcolm Lear,
It is my understanding that the triple coils are wound (probably pre-wound and then slid over) the inner tube. These should fit fairly tightly. They can be assembled as a group of three, then arranged, evenly spaced, into their final position. Then the multicoil + inner tube assembly is inserted within a cover tube that fits closely, but not tightly to the coils, to make room for coil expansion and movement. This outer tube has the fins molded to it. Probably the caps are molded separately, grooved internally for the heater wire extensions, and then the caps are affixed permanently during the fin molding operation, while the cement is wet.

Perhaps Dewey or Rossi can correct me if I have that wrong.

Quote from frankwtu

LENR Calender wrote:
Frank: IH made the reactor, IIRC.

So IH do have Rossi's IP surprise surprise!

You also have Rossi's IP, and so do I. Everyone does, in a sense. The gadget is only an electric heater. It does not produce excess heat. Anyone can purchase an electric heater at a hardware store.

There is no real IP, because the gadget does not work. Not a surprise, not a surprise. By now that is what you should expect from Rossi.

1410°C -> 1683 K at an integrated spectral radiance (in W*m^-2*µm^-1*sr^-1) as viewed by the Optris at a camera (7.5 to 13 micron band) ε of 0.4 is approximately equal to
747°C -> 1020 K @ Camera ε 0.95
777°C -> 1050 K @ Camera ε 0.90
802°C -> 1075 K @ Camera ε 0.85
837°C -> 1110 K @ Camera ε 0.80
and
610°C -> 883 K at an integrated spectral radiance (in W*m^-2*µm^-1*sr^-1) as viewed by the Optris at a camera ε of 0.59 is approximately equal to
442°C -> 715 K @ Camera ε 0.95
462°C -> 735 K @ Camera ε 0.90
477°C -> 750 K @ Camera ε 0.85
497°C -> 770 K @ Camera ε 0.80

(values rounded for simplicity, and the underlying spectral radiance comparisons have a complex uncertainty, possibly up to 1%)

@Dewey:
Kanthal A1.. so much for the three-fold drop in resistance: It actually increases by 5%.
You say "tightly twisted into a pair". Do you mean that each of the three phases were a twisted pair?
Can you confirm it was a three phase delta connection?

@andrea.s,
This should get you in the ballpark. (Need three of these). Just a wee bit of fine tuning needed.
Power in wye for dummy, and in delta for active, and everything works out.

http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?a=true&p=roundmulti&tp=3&r=0.41&hfnw=858&str=2&awg=15&id=10&ll=200&ws=21

See y'all maybe Monday if you have any further questions or comments.

Para - I believe that you're generally in the ballpark on how the reactor was assembled.
Andrea S - I don't have any additional information to share with you.

@Dewey: thank you for sharing the info and taking the time to reply.

Paradigmnoia: I don't buy the wye to delta change, not an intentional one at least There is only one reactor described, first used ad a dummy, then loaded with charge and operated. The Lugano report states "After 23 hours’ operation, the dummy reactor was switched off and disconnected from the power cables, to allow for one of the caps to be opened and the powder to be inserted". To drastically change the setup connection and not to declare it, seems too "unscientific".
P.S.: Nice calculator, thanks!

Quote from Paradigmnoia

It is my understanding that the triple coils are wound (probably pre-wound and then slid over) the inner tube.

I would recommend to look it up in the detailed patent application. All the pictures etc.. about the coil are there!

But nobody can tell whether patent and Lugano are the same.

This also holds for Dewey. He is not IH. He is a mask playing somewhere in between!

@ the D'eaver

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Did anyone hear that barking? Sounds like an ankle biter left in a hot locked car by its owner with the windows rolled up. Better call the dog catcher and get some help for that poor critter. I can barely hear it now.

What do you mean, can you explain this comment? All I can think of someone must have touched on a nerve, hit a raw spot (bit an ankle) and your instinct is to 'lash out'. What has this got to do with IH obviously having Rossi's IP but pretending they haven't?

Best regards
Frank

Frank. As far as I know IH has never said Rossi told them nothing about building an e-cat. Just that they haven't got anything to work.

Frankiewtu is a good noise maker - perhaps there a little league team that needs that kind of assistance from the dugout? Hey batta batta.

And no, only one person at IH was taught how to make the fuel and it has stayed that way. Nothing that was taught has worked after many herculean attempts. If we get that far in court, the judge and jury are going to be impressed with the IH efforts to get something working.

DNI

Quote from DNI

Frank. As far as I know IH has never said Rossi told them nothing about building an e-cat. Just that they haven't got anything to work.

This as you well know is just a claim, I see Rossi and his lawyers have rejected all the Darden et al claims in the MTD, with some 'confidence' I see this (we cant get it to work claim) as just another so called claim. we will have to wait to see how the court react of course.

I suggest those who are interested in real information read this in full, its now in the court docket.

Best regards
Frank

Dewey

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And no, only one person at IH was taught how to make the fuel and it has stayed that way. Nothing that was taught has worked after many herculean attempts.

So an admission at last from the IH camp, IH did have the IP after all.

Thanks for that little snippet.

Best regards
Frank

Quote from AlainCo

They have a recipe. I have one for Quatre-Quart cake, but it does not produce heat.
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Alain would you mind sharing your zero-calorie Quatre-Quart cake IP? Summer is almost here and those love-handles won't go away.