Rossi vs. Darden developments - Part 2

  • The judge in my trial did everything he could do to make the case as short as possible and encouraged the attorneys to keep everything relevant to the legal matters at hand. IMHO, the case will be decided as much as possible on the contract at hand. Any technical issues will be confined to supporting whether of not the contract was valid or fulfilled.

    I really hope so put as pointed above Internet IS an issue at this times.

  • As I noted, the American Bar Association experts disagree with you. Who do you think knows more about jurisprudence?

    Context does help, but still to a non-native English speaker an expert of the American Bar Association sounds like someone familiar with alcoholic beverages more than law. In Italy an American bar is a classy cocktail bar as one may find in five star hotels. Admittedly it has nothing American, like Italian dressing has nothing Italian nor a French kiss anything French about it...

  • But being realist I was really wondering why that trial is so analyzed here even with the participation of people who have a stake in it.


    Methinks you overestimate yourself. Your post belies any semblance of you being a 'realist'.

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    1) First of all they collected about 100 M$ saying to their investors that they bought the IP of Rossi and showing them the 1MW plant during the one year test. No problem with the test was risen about the test and even about Lugano or any other test in this phase.

    1) There is no evidence that 'they collected about $100 Million'. You made that up - no reality there. Then you say there was 'no problem with the test' despite the reality of abundant evidence and testimony that a) there was no agreement to a test, b) there was nothing close to 1MW being produced

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    2) Seems that 100 M$ has disappeared (no trace in documents) and so IH decided not to pay Rossi (losing the IP) and IH told the investors thet it has substituted the Rossi technology with others.

    2) There is no evidence that '$100 Million has disappeared'. That is your fantasy. No reality there.

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    3) this others technologies (reading the papers) seems to have much lower results the the one from Rossi or even may be in conflict with the Rossi patent, so they have almost no commercial value but IH investors have been told they they are a gold mine.

    3) There is no evidence that 'These other technologies ... have almost no commercial value but IH investors have been told they are a gold mine." You have no evidence that IH told any investors anything about other technologies. That is your fantasy. No reality there.

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    4) The new technologies inventors (Piantelli at al. ) have not been paid with real money but with shares of IH or other "empty boxes".

    4) There is no evidence that "The new technology inventors (Piantelli et. al.) have been paid ... with shares of IH or other 'empty boxes'". That is your fantasy. No reality there.

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    5) Darden is paying (with real money) actors on the web ...

    5) There is no evidence that "Darden is paying real money to actors...". That is your fantasy. No reality there.


    The realists here know one thing for sure: Your posts here have little to nothing to do with reality.


    There is a saying: 'a dog would rather be kicked than ignored'. I just kicked you with reality. Perhaps that's what you were hoping for. You can expect to be ignored in the future.

  • Motion for Sanctions (179) denied. The judge seems miffed.


    The Judge did choose to use bold font in the following sentence in her denial (from 180), and that could indicate that she was miffed:

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    No written discovery motions, including motions to compel, for protective order, or related motions for sanctions shall be filed unless the Magistrate Judge so directs at his discovery calendar.


    In other words, Rossi's Motion for Sanctions should not have been filed with the Judge. The correct action by Rossi's lawyers would have been to raise their objections with the Magistrate (who oversees the discovery process, among other procedural issues). Any Motion for Sanctions would first have to be approved by the Magistrate. He would only do that if he determined there were unresolvable issues coupled with serious violations by a party.


    Since the issue is merely about Corporate depositions, it is extremely unlikely that he would permit a Motion for Sanctions. If either party was found to have violated rules of discovery, he would first instruct that party to remedy the situation. Only after a party refused the corrective instructions of the Magistrate would he consider allowing a Motion for Sanctions to proceed.


    So although this Motion for Sanctions seems to have been initiated by Rossi's lawyers rather than Rossi (who most likely was pushing for the 'witness tampering' sanctions), this recent legal fiasco initiated by Rossi's lawyers shows that the level of competence of both Rossi and his lawyers is not very high.


    In my opinion, they over-played their hand (again), and have suffered another credibility hit with the Court as a result.

  • Some new documents on the docket (incl. the order):

    180 Is the Judge's denial of Rossi's Motion for Sanctions. She instructs this issue regarding Corporate depositions to be resolved by the Magistrate (per my post above).

    181 and 182 Announce that there is a one hour hearing scheduled for Thursday March 23.

    183 is an appeal with exhibits (see 184)

    184 Is an amended appeal of IH's appeal in 183, appealing the Magistrate's ruling that Dewey Weaver does NOT have attorney-client privilege or work product doctrine with respect to email communications. It appears that 184 merely adds a brief section of a court transcript to the appeal (184-5). IH is asking (by appealing the previous decision) the Magistrate to re-instate attorney client privilege and work product doctrine to block Rossi from obtaining email communications between IH and DW as evidence.


    I don't think any additional analysis is useful or warranted.

  • This concern about jury independence- Remember the primary suit is Rossi's claims against IH, If the jury is thrown out then IH would "go free" unless/until there is another court trial. IH would also "go free" unless there is a unanimous verdict or if the judge throws out the case against them.

  • I don't think they would be stuck. IH would not have to pay the 89M and still have the IP and license. IH could still use the IP (but likely not since I think it is useless and if Rossi ever did have something he didn't transfer ) But Rossi would likely keep the 10M that he was paid for the IP just not license it in the US. At least that is my understanding.

  • ele's fantasies are no less real than any other of the speculations going on here. None of us have enough hard evidence to be jumping the conclusions that most express here. Also I believe whole heartedly that forum posters are being paid, perhaps by both sides, to distribute fud and misdirection hoping to influence the public, and therefore possibly jurors, to there way of thinking. It's a new world with the proliferation of the internet and sentiments like that are nearly impossible to repress.

  • RiRi - It looks like you've earned honorary citizenship on Planet Rossi in record time - comes with a passport and everything! This also comes with an honorary PhD in the discipline of your choice so let R know if you want to move into the sciences overnight as well. Everyday is a new day on Planet Rossi and I can tell that you're going to be very happy there. Congrats!!


    Keep the cluelessness coming - you're making fast friends in the best of places.

  • I forgot to mention that an honorary JD is also available as part of the P.R. citizenship package - you're already demonstrating Planet Rossi acumen, intellect and character - they need some fresh legal brains on top of that. I think that is the way you should go. You can instantly add value to the Planet.

  • ele's fantasies are no less real than any other of the speculations going on here

    Yes, we agree, ele has real fantasies.


    Others here observe, describe and comment on the realities of things like Court Documents.


    You inspire me to buy stock in Alcoa. You know doubt consume a lot of it for your hats.


    In the future, when you post something with actual information, we might have a discussion.

  • Rigel - it's already been a big week - the average half-life of Rossi's Motions before the Court continue to demonstrate record exponential decay value - hugely entertaining! That might need to be included in the adjunct Rossi Effect definition appendices as well.

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    • Andrea Rossi

      March 20, 2017 at 4:55 PM

      Yajo:
      Certainly the 352 days I stayed in the plant from 5 P.M. to 10 A.M. of the next day, spending all the nights working in the 1 MW plant, costed a price. Anyway, thanks to God, I am well and I am working at my best.
      Thank you for your sympathy,
      Warm Regards,
      A.R.


    Interesting statement from Rossi which seems at odds with his posting habits on the JONP.



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    5) Darden is paying (with real money) actors on the web (Weaver/Sigmoidal, J.Rothwell and others) in order to influence the trial.



    ... damn drugs, Do not do drugs, mama said.

    Who can really believe, that this can be true to only 0.2 % ???

  • None of us have enough hard evidence to be jumping the conclusions that most express here.


    Also I believe whole heartedly that forum posters are being paid, perhaps by both sides, to distribute fud and misdirection hoping to influence the public, and therefore possibly jurors, to there way of thinking.


    Talk about pots and kettles!

  • Interesting statement from Rossi which seems at odds with his posting habits on the JONP.

    Yes, poor thing. It takes a lot out of a guy maintaining a show. Gotta be there at all hours to make sure nobody sneaks in with their own meters to try to measure something. Surely, he wouldn't run a scam and work so hard and reference God would he?

  • Given that AR tends to point the finger at others for what he is doing, one might speculate that he has been engaged in harassment, intimidation, and bribery during the course of the suit.

    This is a truly absurd reasoning and totally lacking in objectivity. Too often the documents about the process have been interpreted by IH supporters according to their cheer, without any kind of detachment and lucidity. In this way they just throw mud on the protagonists .... a questionable pastime.