Brillouin Energy Corporation (BEC) updates.

  • http://brillouinenergy.com/wp-…-License-7-2-18-Final.pdf


    BERKELEY, CA, July 2, 2018 – Brillouin Energy Corp. (http://brillouinenergy.com), a
    leading company in the low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) field, announced that it has
    secured its second paid commercial license of its CECR technologies. The license was
    sold to a leading industrial group within the Asia-Pacific region. This latest achievement
    marks another significant step in the company's mission to create ultra-clean, low-cost,
    renewable energy products that are capable of producing commercially useful thermal
    energy (heat).
    "This announcement is an important milestone in our quest to deliver world-changing
    ultra-clean, low-cost renewable energy technologies”, said company CEO, Robert W.
    George. “This latest accomplishment further validates the commercial potential of the
    company’s underlying CECR technologies.”
    The new license agreement pays a combination of up front fees plus various royalty
    streams over time. Brillouin will use the immediate revenue to continue development of
    its green energy solutions that original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) can design into
    highly energy efficient products. This in turn brings the company closer to the reality of
    commercial LENR power.
    For more information about Technology Licensing or OEM Partnerships with Brillouin
    Energy Corp., please see http://brillouinenergy.com/opportunity/technology-licensing.


    Thoughts?


  • A good milestone.

    It is time to look for data about the TRL of Brillouin technology, how near it is to market.

    They seem to have adopted the KISS approach to LENR. I think they were limited in the past by a low COP but seem to have overcome that issue. I also suspect that they are limited to a lower COP due to not wanting to emit any issues with gamma rays.


    I've been rooting for them for a while now and things seem to be working out for them.


    I wonder if Japan or China are the parties mentioned.

  • Good news. For some background, this older interview with BEC's Robert George helps. It is well covered in the thread, so you do not have to listen to the interview itself:


    Robert George of Brillouin Interview


    Then last year, they were looking for more funding, which I believe they never closed on.


    http://ecat.org/2017/brillouin…on-equity-financing-june/


    The other license they sold was to an anonymous South Korean company back in 2013. The technology was to be turned over to them, and they were going to figure out how to retrofit it into an existing coal plant, or something similar. Obviously that never happened. Here is a good article about that transaction:


    http://coldfusion3.com/blog/br…ing-deal-with-korean-firm


    And yes SOT, I know....

  • I wonder why anyone thinks that selling a license is evidence of success for a reactor design. Look at how many licenses Roger Green and Andrea Rossi sold and look where they are with their development. All it means to sell a license is that someone wants one. Evidence that a reactor actually works comes only from reliable and credible test results.

  • I wonder why anyone thinks that selling a license is evidence of success for a reactor design. Look at how many licenses Roger Green and Andrea Rossi sold and look where they are with their development. All it means to sell a license is that someone wants one. Evidence that a reactor actually works comes only from reliable and credible test results.

    I don't think Brillouin deserves to be put in the same category as Rossi or Green...

  • BEC has been blitzing Twitter "@Brillouin_nrgy", and Facebook "BEC Foundation", for the past month. They're not saying anything noteworthy, just a lot of repetitive, self promotion comments, and a replay of an older video. Anyone aware of something new about to happen? I know in August it looked as if they would be granted a patent, but since then they have been quiet.

  • Brillouin has upgraded their website, and looks to have added a new advisor or two;


    http://brillouinenergy.com/about


    Then launched a new round of funding, and opening up to more OEM partnerships:


    https://medium.com/brillouin-e…er-revolution-1aadb6cebfa


    Power Revolution

    Clean energy has become a global imperative impacting all levels of business and society. The need to move beyond a zero-sum approach to energy consumption is uniting consumers, businesses and nations around the world to make more environmentally conscious decisions. While clean technology has come a long way over the past two decades, commercialization efforts have been limited by a lack of incentive to move away from traditional fossil fuels. Paradoxically, a failure to make this pivotal transition could have devastating consequences on the future civilization.


    Brillouin Energy has been pioneering clean tech long before it became fashionable and prior to the recent influx of corporate social responsibility (CSR) efforts to Wall Street. Backed by 15 years of research and development and including collaboration with the Stanford Research Institute International in California, Brillouin is an innovative clean-tech firm leading the commercialization of low-cost, renewable thermal energy. By utilizing human and environmentally friendly low energy nuclear reactions (LENR), Brillouin is envisioning a world powered by highly efficient, zero-pollution heat source.


    Brillouin’s system not only solves all the problems of current nuclear and petroleum-based power generation, but it also offers a competitive advantage over existing renewable energy sources like wind and solar. LENR overcomes these inefficient systems by operating continuously 24/7 without dependence on a large body of water, excessive land or the sun. The outcome is a complete energy system that can be deployed anywhere and produce defined output.

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    To harness the mainstream adoption of LENR generators, Brillouin Energy has and will license its proprietary Controlled Electron Capture Reaction (CECR) technologies to qualified original equipment manufacturers all over the world. OEMs from Australia, Canada and South Korea are already leveraging this proprietary system by preparing the market for reliable low-cost thermal energy.


    Brillouin Energy is expanding its commercialization efforts through a private investment round. Supporters of this project will not only take part in a unique investment opportunity that will allow them to take part in the profits from licensing of this technology. Supporters can also count their contribution as a meaningful cause for the future of humanity.

  • Checked with "waybackmachine", and looks like they dropped Holden, and picked up Tanzella, and McKubre (LF active member) as new members of their Technical Advisory Board. Good additions to the BEC team. Both of course, are former SRI, and have been linked closely with BEC for several years now.

    There are now a 7 members on the board. Probably the most prominent -due his brother, is Carl Page.


  • Anyone want to bet nothing proven conclusively in the next five years? Looks to me like a money grab without sufficient evidence, but hey, they forgot to invite me to their demo. You know, the one where they have test experts from Sandia or UL verify that their device really has the Pout>Pin which they claim. (tip of the hat to Roseland67 )


    Of course, I don't really know what they have. It amounts to a modest claim using an instrument which relies on point temperature measurements. That's wobbly in my estimation. I hope I'm wrong. That would be much more interesting.


    BTW, don't read silly press releases written by publicity freak agents. This is their scientific paper reporting their recent experiments. I hope it gets the close scrutiny from qualified people (other than the "usual suspects") which it deserves:


    http://brillouinenergy.com/wp-…/SRI_Technical_Report.pdf

  • Anyone want to bet nothing proven conclusively in the next five years? Looks to me like a money grab without sufficient evidence, but hey, they forgot to invite me to their demo. You know, the one where they have test experts from Sandia or UL verify that their device really has Pout>Pin (tip of the hat to Roseland67 )


    If they had worked with Sandia, you would be saying instead: "You know, the one where they have test experts from SRI, or UL to verify their device". SRI is one of the finest research facilities in the world, and they verified BEC's tech. Be honest, you are never going to be satisfied.

  • Nobody will license a process that delivers only a COP between 1.5..2. Either they have something better or they have to refill their tank.


    Wyttenbach.


    That is the COP SRI saw in their independent replication...which they say is very conservative, but Godes claims they get 4 in their own lab. They do have some OEM's already. If you read this clip carefully though, it does not sound as if they are able to harness enough excess heat to start the commercialization process yet...which supports what you say:


    "Canada and South Korea are already leveraging this proprietary system by preparing the market for reliable low-cost thermal energy."

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    SRI is one of the finest research facilities in the world, and they verified BEC's tech. Be honest, you are never going to be satisfied.

    Of course I would be satisfied if the correct methodology (complete envelope calorimetry either by heat flux or liquid cooling) would be used, not point temperature measurements. I would already feel better about it if it were SRI as a company making the announcements rather than BEC citing that a small subgroup of SRI, composed of "usual suspects" had done the work. And Sandia is a national lab and a much better source for testing of systems like this than SRI which, in my estimation, has slipped considerably since its peak.


    I'd be interested to know what kirkshanahan thinks of the paper I linked above and again here: http://brillouinenergy.com/wp-…/SRI_Technical_Report.pdf He'd be much better than me at spotting the rotten part of the apple but it's a long paper so he may choose not to review it.


    BTW, this sort of work is vastly different in every way from Rossi's. The equipment looks well designed and made and the paper contains a lot of appropriate construction information and performance data. Most unRossified. It also helps that Tanzella is the author. None of this makes it ironclad though. And Godes in particular, has been making overblown and unsupported projections about his alleged technology for more than five years since he first published a hilarious diagram (seems he couldn't spell "hydrogen" or "pulse") on Sterling Alan's moronic web site. So his claim of a COP of 4 should not be believed on his say so.


    Finally, it would be interesting to know who the large companies are which are allegedly funding this. I bet one is IH and we know their track record so far,;(. But because of the way this was done and looks and because Tenzella is the author of that report, it isn't an automatic writeoff.

  • I would already feel better about it if it were SRI as a company making the announcements rather than BEC citing that a small subgroup of SRI, composed of "usual suspects" had done the work. And Sandia is a national lab and a much better source for testing of systems like this than SRI which, in my estimation, has slipped considerably since its peak.


    You sure know how to dig that knife into the back, and twist! LOLs. Those "usual suspects" BTW, are world class electrochemists. Both could easily have worked for a national lab had they so decided.


    SRI was paid by the NRL/ARL (forget which one), to test other systems claiming LENR, so they obviously have a more favorable opinion of SRI's capabilities than you. And may I ask by what measure you judge that: "SRI, has slipped considerably since it's peak", and when that supposed peak was?

  • Shane D.


    SRI is a mixed bag. Some of their work is fine. But they slipped in my estimation way back when they took Targ and Puthoff under their wing and did little to prevent those two from being roundly and embarrassingly bamboozled by Uri Geller. Geller is a transparent liar who does fairly common magic tricks and foists them off as paranormal. T&P tested him and decided he really had powers. They published the experiments in Nature but the work was so bad, Nature required them to retract it. Blush. They also slipped when they approved work on remote viewing which, it can be easily shown, is total nonsense. The proof requires minimal effort and expense.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology_research_at_SRI


    Shane, how do you explain that there is no mention of the work with Brillouin or with low energy nuclear reactions in general on the SRI web site? At least, there was none I could find. If it's there, it's not terribly obvious. Anyone find it?


    https://www.sri.com/


    Tell me this: if SRI was working with anyone who had LENR technology nearing deployment of any sort or even such technology that could prove that LENR "works," you don't think that this world-shaking fact would be prominently featured on their web site? Cue: excuses

  • Shane, how do you explain that there is no mention of the work with Brillouin or with low energy nuclear reactions in general on the SRI web site? At least, there was none I could find. If it's there, it's not terribly obvious.


    Because SRI is a commercial concern, and everything they do is confidential unless all parties decide otherwise.


  • SOT,


    If you dig hard enough, you can find something foolish every research scientist, in any of the "national labs" you hold as your "gold standard", has said, or believed in. For that matter, you can discredit every business, every organization, you me, and everyone here, if you so choose to cherry pick a few public comments here and there, and exploit it.


    Funny, in that you are notoriously too lazy to ever read up on the science of what they do, yet have spend countless hours in your current, and former Mary avatar, to find what controversial little things they say, or believed, and then use that to discredit them, and their institutions.


    And the examples you bring up are about being fooled by con artists, and have nothing to do with the current discussion. SRI could not have been fooled by a smooth talker, or slight of hand. They brought the reactors to their own facility, and with no help from BEC, replicated.

  • Wyttenbach.


    That is the COP SRI saw in their independent replication...which they say is very conservative, but Godes claims they get 4 in their own lab. They do have some OEM's already. If you read this clip carefully though, it does not sound as if they are able to harness enough excess heat to start the commercialization process yet...which supports what you say:


    "Canada and South Korea are already leveraging this proprietary system by preparing the market for reliable low-cost thermal energy."

    You can get a COP of 4-8 from a GSHP. No need for liquid silver or whatever they use...or is that BLP.

  • Wyttenbach.

    That is the COP SRI saw in their independent replication...which they say is very conservative, but Godes claims they get 4 in their own lab.


    Of course you never bring your best process into a lab! The Japanese do the same. They just publish the enough good ones...


    Swarz told a years ago that the best nanors are above COP 8. But that's usually true at the beginning. For selling a product it must hold for months.

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    And the examples you bring up are about being fooled by con artists, and have nothing to do with the current discussion. SRI could not have been fooled by a smooth talker, or slight of hand. They brought the reactors to their own facility, and with no help from BEC, replicated.


    My point was that in the past the entire company endorsed stuff that could have been determined to be crap with one or two simple tests that nobody required or performed. Nowadays, I call this the IH Phenomenon. In Brillouin's instance, I think SRI (actually a very small part of SRI) may have been fooled by what I like to call mismeasurement. kirkshanahan has other names for important subtypes of the phenomenon. This may be accidental mismeasurement whereas what Rossi does is premeditated and precomputed and pretested mismeasurement.


    Hmmm... ok, so in your estimation, when should Brillouin bring out a demo or product whose ability to generate Pout>Pin is generally believed by a majority of scientists? 2 more years from now? 5? 10? 20?


    Alan Smith I can't prove you wrong that SRI is secretive about Brillouin for protection. But I think a much more likely explanation is that nobody outside Tanzella et al. 's area thinks much of Brillouin if they even know it's something SRI does. Here's the thing. If they are trying to hide the company and SRI's association with it, they are doing a terrible job, are they not?