I am too lazy to do this tonight, but I saw this old thread by Shannahan. It is about FP's experiments, which is good for reference, which I like. Even has Abd in it. So much on LF's is lost by starting new threads. Like reinventing the wheel. Anyway, you two decide. I can do a new thread and move everything over to it, keep it all here, or roll it over to Kirk's old thread.
Edit: I changed the name of Kirk's original thread, to the new one above. I moved your related posts there.