Posts by sam12

Quote from Roseland67

Sam,

What exactly do you mean?

It has been over 7 years now.

Elon Musk has built entire robitized factories, multiple electric car models, global energy storage systems, recoverable rocket ships, Hyperloop transportation systems, tunnel boring machines etc.

In the same time frame, Rossi has not been able to cobble together $150 of plumbing and electrical parts into anything remotely saleable.

At some time, even the most fanatical of the Rossi zealots must realize that they were conned.

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It is amazing what Elon Musk has done with Goverment money compared to Rossi working with a few million private money.But I still take Rossi

over Musk.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundi…overnment-support-already

Quote from Shane D.

Abd mentioned in his: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax on the Cold Fusion Now! podcast that funding was drying up for LENR research due to Rossi. No one wanted to fund something that might only produce watts, when he was producing kWs. That IH was interested in LENR as a whole, but figured first thing on their agenda was to determine if Rossi were real.

They found out the expensive way, he was not.

Rossi still looks real with the EcatQX.

Quote from Zeus46

So Abd doubles-down on

Rumours that Abd requested the Feynman reference are possibly entirely scurrilous.

The Feynman technique.

Quote from stan

Found this on you tube.

Quote from woodworker

Please tell me what esteemed law school from which you graduated? You seem to have such a keen grasp of legal principles and jurisprudence and how the adversarial system works. I sit in awe.

I watched every Perry Mason show.

Quote from axil

The main job of a lawyer is to win.

And because both Lawyers work hard for there client things get resolved.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

I knew it!

Spam shows up with the signature "close the thread" dropping.

Let’s try to have Tom Darden and Andrea Rossi post comments on this thread.The peanut gallery have run out of new material.

Quote from woodworker

Why would it be a good idea to shut down the thread? Because it continues to draw attention to Rossi's lies and frauds? You say that you have no interest in the transcripts (and I assume the depositions), but you seem willing to accept Rossi's word and version of events as true. It seems to me that a person who took a person's word as evidence of their technological successes would at least want to know how often, and to what degree, did that person previously lie and commit fraud regarding their prior technological "successes." And yes, Rossi would like to move on and, just as in 1984, he would like to rewrite history in order to completely erase the entire IH / Doral debacle. We have always been at war with Oceania!

You are a Lawyer.Is it not the job of the Lawyers,Judges,and the legal system to sort things out as best they can and come up with a

verdict or settlement so the people

involved have some kind of closure.

I think the Courts did that with Rossi and Darden.They have moved on but

the peanut gallery does not want to rest there Case.

Quote from THHuxleynew

You are however interested in Rossi's claims and feel able to reach independently some judgement as to how likely they are true.

That judgement will be severely uninformed if you ignore the transcript evidence, as MANY here have been telling you!

I did follow Abd Lomax Cold Fusion Community blog who covered

the Rossi vs Darden case as well as anyone.He showed that Rossi did

not look good in the transcripts.

But it also showed that I.H where not

the brightest of lights.

So I do take that into consideration

when judging Rossi and Darden.

Quote from Mark H

Please. Rossi doesn't need Dewey, Shane or anybody else to discredit him. He does perfectly fine all by himself. Sam12 - have you read the court transcripts yet?

The Court Case is over and have no

interest in transcripts.

It is time to move on like Tom Darden and Andrea Rossi have done.

The best to both of them.

With that said I think it would be a good idea to Shut Down This Thread.

Quote from Shane D.

Sam,

You have my blessing. It would be better though were Dewey to stop purposely mangling your call sign, and then you would not be forced to retaliate. Considering both of you are read by guests, and members from all over the world, I would think you would want to look your best for the audience.

Will try harder.

Apologies to Dewey

for name calling.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

Spam12 - the market has spoken and the only thing keeping the WCS in the discussion is folks like you.

But that is why you are here isn't it?

Since you keep calling me spam12 and the moderators overlook it I guess it’s ok if I call you

Screwy Dewey

Quote from THHuxleynew

I cannot rule out that Sam12 is a Rossi co-conspirator.

But it is just as likely that he is a new Rossi fan. The problem with the Rossi effect is that Rossi will always be able to attract new sympathisers, no matter how murky his past, and they will defend him just like Sam12 here until they have seen for themselves so much new deceit that they can no longer support it and drop away. The Rossi fan life-cycle from initial enthusiasm to final disenchantment seems to take several years.

A co-conspirator is the laugh of the

day. The last laugh like that was when FredZ777 asked me if Rossi pays me.I have been following Rossi and

LENR for about four years.

Quote from Forty-Two

But then he should not pretend to be a Samaritian:

https://www.nyteknik.se/energi…nancing-his-e-cat-6421306

Good point.

Quote from interested observer

sam12: You do realize that if Rossi has anything like what you inexplicably believe him to have, he does not need you to relentlessly defend him on obscure websites. He will do just fine without your knight in shining armor efforts.

I think I am giving balance to the Dewey, Shane D discredit Rossi campaign .

Quote from Shane D.

Any of you Rossi fans remember his pledge to give money to the children with cancer? I had forgotten that one myself, until Dewey reminded us of his using the IH money to buy those cheap condos in Miami. Does not that alone kind of piss you off about the man? Not a penny to those poor kids like he promised over and over again. He used them for his purpose to deceive, just like he used Kullander, and the others. That guys, is your hero...the man you defend.

I can see why Dewey will dog him to the end of his career. Someone needs to, just to prevent more victims joining the list.

What Rossi or anyone else does with

there money is there own business.

Dewey will dog him till the end because he lost money.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

Shane - I mostly agree with you. I do feel terribly for Peter Gluck. He invested man years in trying to help get CF to a starting line only to fall under the WCS spell.

I hope he can recover and live long enough to see a true applied engineering starting line become reality.

These incredible human cost mean nothing to the Wealthy Career Specialist - they are useful collateral / fodder along the way.

I think you should feel terrible for

Peter because of his health issues

and not the other reasons you stated.Especially when Peter is not able to reply on this blog.

Quote from Shane D.

Most likely Dewey, but they they are victims like the others. Not accomplices, and we should keep that in mind when it comes to assigning blame. They will pay some price for their scientific naivete, but it is not for us to decide what that price is, or mete it out.

Our issue is with one person only...Rossi. Well, maybe Fabiani and Penon also, as without them, Rossi could not have gone as far with Doral as he did.

What price will you and Dewey pay when Rossi is successful with the Ecat Shane D.

Quote from THHuxleynew

That is then your problem: you believe in credentials, and imagine all scientists are good generalists and good at detecting trickery.

For me there is no such difficulty because I can look at the public info and work it out for myself. Whereas I can't be sure of Sven, I know my own strengths and weaknesses.

I believe Sven credentials and years of wisdom where a good combination.He also investigated

Rossi technology with Hanno Essén

who really was a Scientific skeptic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanno_Ess%C3%A9n

Quote from THHuxleynew

That on the basis of a demo clearly and publicly shown false. Sven was alas just not very good at detecting scientific trickery: perhaps because scientists are more prone to believing a charismatic individual than most.

Remember though that the scientists who support Rossi are a very small selected set of those who know of him. Rossi would not perform well to an unselected hostile audience.

That Rossi could trick a Scientist with

Sven credentials is beyond belief.

http://www.ae-info.org/ae/Member/Kullander_Sven