Posts by Cydonia

Well, i understand you postulated that it exists a kind of hysteresis by gas dissociation/reassociation/excitation, generating xsh..

in this way what kind of Rayleigh paper you referred ?

Below an easy reading to better understand how classic plasma is working... ( No Hysteresis..)

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Rayleigh "Activated Gas" is not just plasma. There is a combination of ionisation, dissociation, and excitation. The effect is visible, and lasts for many minutes, when at very low pressure - which is how it was originally discovered, and studied.

The ionisation, dissociation, and excitation also happen at higher pressures - although probably in different proportions. However the subsequent thermalisation, recombination, and relaxation happen so quickly that the process isn't readily visible.

I've recently been looking at how these processes might affect gas behaviour in closed (Stirling & Ericsson) cycle machines - as there has always been a problem when analysing the cycles using classical thermodynamic theory (especially for small, high speed, machines that include regeneration). Although there aren't any electrical discharges in these machines, turbulence, thermal shock, and acoustic vibration will affect the gas molecules in extra ways that are not taken into account in classical kinetic gas theory.

I hope that explains why I've thrown Rayleigh into the possible hypothetical mix.

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Well, after took time to read the patent i can say that basically this is like Muzuno, a process of discharges in water.

However the team used one more electrode to stabilize "enlarge the plasma area".

In fact the vapor creation during discharges implies a plasma unstabilized this is why the team used another AC circuit to help for that.

About the Vortex it helps too to keep an enlarged plasma however maintly to well tune the cavity size in water by cavitation ( Storms NAE).

In parallel, some gases are included in the water by pressure.

Again, some magic powders are added by electrode decomposition.

My feeling.. very complex engineering now if they have found some xsh...

Well strange anyway if things become non disclosed don't bother more speculations..

In this way, why you tried a link with the Rayleigh plasma which runs at very lower pressure ?

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The scale is a bit misleading, yes.

The blue region, below atmospheric pressure (zero Pa), is on a different scale to the region above atmospheric pressure.

Lowest pressure is only 0,035 Pa below atmospheric (so hardly any depression)

The highest pressure, at the periphery, is 1100 Pa above atmospheric.

This is still not a particularly high pressure (0.011 bar, gauge) - but air is not particularly dense, and 20 m/s at a radius of 100 mm isn't particularly fast.

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i tried to understand your chart and the total pressure variation..

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I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.

Maybe it would be best to wait until Alan Smith returns, so we can have a full update.

yes I understood 1/35 rate.. that is right?

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Of course. You asked about cyclones - and most research is aimed at dust and vapour removal.

Try this paper: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7480140

This is for a 200 mm diameter cyclone, inlet air velocity 20 m/s - the pressure is in Pascals, relative to atmospheric.

This is a CFD simulation, using OpenFOAM. As you can see, there is quite a high pressure gradient.

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well according to Alan only N2 is involved no dust..

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I need to do some digging. It is a couple of years since I last looked at these.

In the mean time, this paper looks interesting:

https://aaqr.org/articles/aaqr-18-05-oa-0197

Some of my friends (women) saw this film with me.

I was so surprised because they are more accustomed to rather reading celebrity magazines..

However wanted to see this movie because the fashion film director..

Do you have an idea of the pressure reduction by a cyclone air filter you talked about ?

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This isn't a venturi effect - it is a centrifugal effect. It is similar to a cyclone air filter.

What is does mean is that there is a region in the centre where the air pressure is lower than at the periphery. Or rather, the periphery is at a higher pressure than the centre. The centre will still be around atmospheric pressure - or there would be no flow of air out of the device.

Despite what it says on the wikipedia page, there are still ongoing arguments about the distribution of heat within the swirling air of a RHVT.

However, the increased pressure around the periphery will help to keep the plasma in the centre of the swirling gas - as previously shown on the ENG8 website.

As Alan Smith mentioned, a while back, it will be interesting to know how much NOx and Ozone come out of this thing.

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Again, whare ara staying these electrodes exactly ?

Do they only "manage " the central area ?

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Have they said what materials they are using for the electrodes? Are they using smooth DC, pulsed DC, AC, or rectified AC (unsmoothed) for the arc?

All these kind of plasmas are ionized no more than 0,1%.. that means 99,9% molecules remain neutral.. Next the other ions ionized stay at ambient temperature when their electrons only are hot regarding they mass difference (vs ions) implying an higher speed. Now what could be happen in this kind of vortex? I think ions will at an higher speed implying an again more fast electrons speed.. Evo ?

thank you for the sketch… now what does that mean in your mind.. reduced pressure?? Could we imagine a kind of venturi effect? Now the metal parts are only the electrodes? The matter ? Thanks Frogfall 👍

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This is ye olde Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube technology - from the 1930s.

This is in the ENG8 patent:

And this is on the wikipedia page for the Vortex Tube:

Note that on a normal RHVT hot air is ejected at the periphery, and cold air comes out of the centre nozzle.

The ENG8 air cell appears to create an electric arc in the central, reduced pressure, reverse flow, "cold region".

It sounds like they aren't ejecting any air from the usual "hot end" - but allowing it all to spiral back up and out of the centre nozzle.

By the way, there is no real proof that the gas goes down the tube and back up again in a RHVT - only that the centre pressure is lower than the peripheral pressure. If you close the "hot end" off, then you simply don't get any cooling effect at the central nozzle. It then becomes a "vortex throttle" - as used in some ventilation systems.

The only difference is that ENG8 stick a big arc up the middle, as far as I can see.

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Alan could you do a quick sketch by ppt ? Also if you have the information about the flow need ?

It was a sign, indeed, to unite around you, you need very particular persuation abilities..

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Another nice story...typical Bill.

April 2012 IWAHLM number 10 , Certosa di Pontignano, Siena.The afternoon of Wednesday 11th was the excursion to San Gimignano

We had rented a Fiat Cinquecento at Pisa airport, so myself, Bill in the front
navigating, with two in the back arrived at San Gimignano.
I saw one of the very few car parking places, and drove into the car park EXIT.
Almost immediately a cop stopped me, shouted, and pulled out a pen and ticket.
Bill quickly jumped out and explained that I meant no harm but that I was a crazy
Englishman and therefore very stupid.The cop relented and waved me in.
Bill was very careful not to reveal that he too was a crazy Englishman.

ciao Bill.

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And on a grey London evening on the 20th of July........But he left on a radiant day in an italian summer.. radiant as he was naturally, jovial and above all empathetic.. With his stiff upright posture, he was the Brett sinclair ( Persuaders) of the field. With his unbeatable accent and my difficulties in oral English, I was only able to really talk to him during his last organization at Assisi just before the covid. Indeed, listening to people, he knew how to be flexible with the participation fees, for example..and I thank him for that. Besides, on this, Alan smith have had to suffer my snoring...

I think he had found the best format with his Assisi events.. I hope it will continue even if it will now miss the icing on the cake.

Thank you Bill

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I am sorry to inform you that Francesco Celani messaged me just now to say that our good friend and companion Bill Collis passed away peacefully in Nizza Monferrato a few hours ago, His life and work will be remembered at ICCf-25, and for a long time afterwards.

Best Wishes and Sincere Condolences to all affected.. Alan Smith

A friendly kiss from my current holidays

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A Researcher Says the Expansion of the Universe Is Just a Mirage. He Might Be Right. (msn.com)

Cosmology in Minkowski space - IOPscience

New theory not needing the Dark Energy hack.

Not agree with all but yes, plasmons and phonons can interact.. you should find on the net so many papers in this way.

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In the papers that I supply below, Egely makes a case for the roll of the polariton in the LENR reaction. These papers have been lost on the internet so I am happy to restore them for your consideration. Egely was a proponent of the role of quasiparticles in the LENR reaction. These papers begin to explain their role in the reaction. Over the years I have attempted to understand in detail how the process of transmutation works as actioned by the polariton and its condensate.

The polariton was believed to be LENR causative by NASA pursuant to the Windom-Larson theory

A polariton is an electron that is reformed form a fermion into a boson by an entanglement process with a boson. This dressed electron is now able to form clusters and aggregate in great numbers into a Bose condensate. When so reformed, the polariton condensate is now able to both access vacuum energy via it superconductive nature and also reform nuclear matter based on its ability to modify the mass of quarks when the polariton achieves superconductivity.

The EVO is a polariton condensate and so is ball lightning.

The branches of science involved in this subject are condensed matter science, quantum and nano optics, nano plasmonics and particle physics.

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We should ask him to better know the oscillation frequency he expects...

More simply than your postulate... electron capture ?

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A nuclear decay process is not fusion. Deuterium becomes tritium when a neutron is added to the nucleus. Then that neutron becomes a proton when tritium decays into helium 3.

In the laser activated experiment sited above, no H hydrogen is involved, just D2O and various metals.

A similar Bibarian and Mastromattmo replication of a laser activated transmutation process was presented during the last ICCF24 by the Army where three types of lasers (red, green and blue) were used to induce transmutation on the surface of an ingot of palladium. There was 3 bar atmosphere of hydrogen involved. The experiment is simple, palladium is transmuted into other elements by laser light: Nickel, sodium, iron, molybdenum, calcium, silicon, aluminum, and zinc associated with the laser light type. The type of fusion needed to produce these elements are to be found in a supernova. There must be some other mechanism other than fusion involved in the transmutation of these elements. Cr39 particle detection show no particle activity associated with the transmutation.

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Y'all ignore experiments that do not fit into your groupthink, and there are many examples of such experiments.

I have an opinion as to the causation of transmutation. There is a hypothesized process called vacuum decay that is capable of producing mass disruption and reorganization of nuclear structures.

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