WL proposed a model with things understood, took in account at their time. Today we know experiments not especially involving hydrogen gas ( other too).
In this way the only common point to explain that is an electron capture.
What's happen next i leave you decide.
Generally, i refer my postulates with my own experiments or observations/conclusions.
this is why i postulated that WL should need some ajustments but roughly it's going on the good way (lazy neutrons).
As a money making activity, the Widom Larsen theory had to meet the constraints placed on the LENR theories by the common beliefs of that period. A nuclear energy based neutron centric mechanism was required to make the Widom Larsen theory commercially viable and acceptable to organizations (NASA) that sponsored this theory even though no neutrons were ever seen in any LENR reaction.
The WL theory contains promising concepts such as the polariton that were watered down by the need to meet the need to support the nuclear energy meme current at that time.
This is the Widom Larsen paper, even if they postulated about "heavy electrons" but never about BEC involvement.
Allan Widom and Lewis Larsen propose that, in condensed matter, local breakdown of the Born-Oppenheimer approximation occurs in homogeneous, many-body, collectively oscillating patches of protons, deuterons, or tritons found on surfaces of fully loaded metallic hydrides; Born-Oppenheimer breakdown enables a degree of electromagnetic coupling of surface proton/deuteron/triton oscillations with those of nearby surface plasmon polariton (SPP) electrons. Such coupling between collective oscillations creates local nuclear-strength electric fields in the vicinity of the patches.
SPP electrons bathed in such high fields increase their effective mass, thus becoming heavy electrons. Widom and Larsen propose that heavy SPP electrons can react directly with protons, deuterons, or tritons located in surface patches through an inverse beta decay process that results in simultaneous collective production of one, two, or three neutrons, respectively, and a neutrino
Display MoreThe SAFIRE system can be shown to be a BEC which operates at hundreds of thousands of degrees.
There are many types of polariton condensates including the the one that is active in the SAFIRE system. They are all described by the Gross-Pitaevskii theory. A proof of the BEC nature of SAFIRE which includes the formation of vortices as seen in SAFIRE project as pictured on page 12 of that theory article.
The Gross-Pitaevskii theory
https://uni-tuebingen.de/filea…oss-Pitaevskii_theory.pdf
The mass of the BEC element determines the temperature that the BEC will sustain. Atoms are heavy and require a very low temperature to form. A photon based BEC as seen in SAFIRE has no mass so its BEC has no limit on the temperature of formation.
It's a long and complex debate..
you talked about means ( BEC or EVO) to compress themselves electrons regarding the surface plasmons behavior.
Now, apparently we talking about charges oscillation.
A recent talk from Alan Smith to me highlighted that electrons don't really move in the case of electric current transmission.
In this way, what is happen really about electrons in surface plasmons ?
Now my depper interrogation is when scientists talk about field enhancement for example in the case of nanorods under a light, will there more compressed to induce this enhancement ( electrons) ?
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From this video, my reaction to it as follows:
There is a new concept afoot associated with the Egely tech called catalyzed fusion. This is actually transmutation as seen in cold fusion. Egely says that in current science theory, electrons in great numbers cannot bunch together. But the surface of the structure must be specifically formatted to produce this clumping. According with this thinking , this clumping provides the EMF power to generate the EMF environment to accomplish catalyzed fusion reaction.
But the nuclear authorities cannot understand how fusion can occur without the appearance of the associated nuclear indicators of the fusion reaction. So there is some intellectual dissidence here.
In my opinion, there is a lack of background in condensed matter physics amongst the groups interested in these processes that explains how the clumping of large numbers of electrons is explained. There is a field of science called nanoplasmonics that explains how this clumping can occur.
A lecture with math about Nanoplasmonics
https://www.yumpu.com/fr/docum…ture-2-physics-astronomy-
A introduction without math about Nanoplasmonics
Physics_Behind_Applications_45_min.pdf
In science, when any particle is able to clump together, that clumping always indicates that a Bose Einstein condensate of that particle is occurring. Such a condensate always produces superconductivity which in turn allows utilization of a field that is not yet commonly understood: the ability to engineer and utilize various states of the vacuum. The Exotic Vacuum Object (EVO) is appropriately named and is a product and a result of this new vacuum-spacetime centric field. I beleive it will be sometime before the mindset of those interested in electron clumping and its production of transmutation understand what the EVO actually is and how it works.
i can be rough sometime, ok, now i think geology is also an interesting field.. Probably linked with strange behaviors..
Once in this way i attempted to go further by relating geological self fission in the field, i didn't know yet..
However no reaction from you only your mind who continued to turn in loop as L.A Slot machine....
Postalates are written by Alan Smith, and I do my job in geology, where there are no formulas at all, which physicists hide behind. So you are right that you will have to read my postulates, because physicists do not change, and it is hard to understand me as a geologist-geophysicist. Alan Smith's articles are not accepted in scopus, which is bad for those who are engaged in science, but I have a lot of videos that no one likes Alan Smith watches, too much, and it's just too lazy for you to change your traditions, so you will listen to my postulates. It is a pity, of course, that of course, that Alan does not understand my geology, but they cannot tear themselves away from their topic, and it would be time to break away from their topic. In geology, everything is simple and it will be clear to a fool how gold and other minerals are formed, which I wrote about at the 34th International Geological Congress, where my publications were not accepted for abstracts, the same thing happened at the 35th Geological Congress in South Africa. This hit me hard and I began to look for my own ways to promote the formation of deposits that are well suited for cold nuclear fusion! I tell you guys for sure that I'm on the right track and it's time for you to accept my concept of cold fusion, which was discussed in Silicon Valley. I advise you to support me and Alan Smith will also have to come to this. I wish you all the best!!!
Agree no strong force is involved in cold fusion only the weak one. This P&F original mistake could have saved us from all this counter publicity.
Dude, my involvement in LENR started with a (modified) replication attempt of Parkhomov's high-temperature reactor. After some trials, we measured strong bursts of elevated Geiger counter reading. If that's not a nuclear indication, I don't know what the indication would be.
There are many well-documented experiments, which measured neutron emission peaks, peaks in the gamma ray spectrum, appearance of new elements, etc. Your time could be better spent by reading those experimental reports, than Huizenga's "nothing to see here" book.
If there is a contradiction between what LENR experimenters observe, and what hot fusioneers observe in D-D fusion, then it is logical to consider that we might be looking at some other reaction than plain D-D fusion. That possibility did not occur to Huizenga, because he used his tax-payer funded position only for destructive purposes, was not interested scientific progress.
BTW: are you Axil teaming up with someone else, or he just randomly happens to quote you when he slanders LENR theory works?
Well, if you consider that electrons are US actuators, in this way the "electric current" will be the sound waves.. Only waves without masses can reach speed of light (electrons have a mass even if low at our scale)
This islinked with the current debate Bayak/Wyttenbach 
This was my understanding also, but recently I have become aware that Electric Engineers don't share this point of view, they postulate that the electrons don't move at all through the wire and that the energy travels in the electric field generated in the circuit, at the speed of light. I was baffled by this. There is a video in the channel Veritassium that deals with this topic.
We can't underestimate relativistic effects in your reasoning.
this video well explains that from 6.40 in our case.
Electrons in a wire move very slowly.
Electric current (electricity) is a flow or movement of electrical charge. The electricity that is conducted through copper wires in your home consists of moving electrons. The protons and neutrons of the copper atoms do not move. The actual progression of the individual electrons in a given direction through the wire is quite slow. The electrons have to work their way through the billions of atoms in the wire and this takes considerable time. In the case of a 12 gauge copper wire carrying 10 amperes of current (typical of home wiring), the individual electrons only move about 0.02 cm per sec or 1.2 inches per minute (in science this is called the drift velocity of the electrons.). If this is the situation in nature, why do the lights come on so quickly? At this speed it would take the electrons hours to get to the lights.
Atoms are very tiny, less than a billionth of a meter in diameter. The wire is "full" of atoms and free electrons and the electrons move among the atoms. In a typical copper wire there would be trillions of electrons flowing past any given point in the wire every second, but they would be passing that point very slowly. Think of the wire in comparison to a pipe full of marbles. If we push another marble into a filled pipe, then one marble would have to exit the other end. Electrons are like that in a wire. If one moves they all have to move. Thus when you turn on a switch an electrical potential difference (created by a generator) immediately causes a force that tries to move the electrons. If you make one electron move when you turn on a switch, the electrons throughout the wire move, even if the wire is miles long. Therefore when you turn on a switch, the electrons in the light start moving "instantly" as far as we are concerned, i.e. something starts to happen throughout the electrical system. Although the electrons are actually moving through the wire slowly, we say that the speed of electricity is near the speed of light (extremely fast). What we really mean is that the effects from the electricity occur "instantly." The light comes on the instant you flip a switch. You do not have to wait for electrons to flow from the switch to the light.
Well, my question was to evaluate if your postulate are enough strong in your mind, i think no, now..
Even if i have no pbs with the EVO existence.
Now the more probable explanation to get closer electrons is their speed which can be relativistic "sometimes".
In another words, a relativistic speed explain also the current resistivity in a wire for example.
Display MoreHere's what Ken Shoulders writes about the ability of electrons to assemble into dense formations in his work. (What’s an EVO?)
Why Would They Act This Way: There are several unique properties to the portion of space we occupy on this planet and nearby neighborhood. One of the most obvious curiosities is the way we have reached a charge neutral or charge balanced condition, with the exception of an occasional thunderstorm, fractoemission cracked rock, and rubbing hair on amber. The driving force behind this is that electrons really don’t want to be alone. At the first opportunity available, they join up with something. In the case of elements, they readily join the nucleus, with its positive charge invitation, until a balance is obtained.
Oddly enough, and this is not common knowledge, they also join each other as long as the spacing is as close as one atomic diameter or so. That is what happens when an abrupt, high field process, like a gas discharge or field emission, forcibly ejects electrons from a conductor at sufficiently high current density. Having once achieved this uncommon union for our portion of space, the electrons stick together until the marriage is violated by a sufficient quantity of conductor where they are forced to return to their more common state as an atom. But while in this little package, whatever it is called, very delightful things happen that can be used to our advantage.
At this point all we have is a controllable entity capable of extraordinary thrust and using trivial control power. Some of the requirements for this condition seem to be connected to its large size, being larger than a single electron, and the apparent closeness of the substructure, assuming there are internal parts. Curiously, the critical number density of the substructure matches Avogadro’s number. To a first approximation, the parts within are spaced the same as if they were in an atomic lattice.
Dirac needed the antimatter postulate ( positon) and the spin concept to well arrange his mathematical formulation.
i have to add about this experiment i described previously, that the superconductor was "linked" with the magnet even if separated by an 2 cm air gap. i was able to displace in 3 axis the magnet or the superconductor part , they maintained this gap exactly as the spacer defined the distance. if a smaller gap have been this one would be kept. the only possibility of relative mobility was a relative rotation around the Z axis between these parts but no influence on the gap.
Iw as lucky to see and touch by myself, very non conventional behavior, maybe E.T ahaha.
i went in a conference about superconductors maybe 10 years ago or maybe more..
i have seen a demo with a magnet a bigger superconductor ( several cm3) and teh staff put on this liquid N2 i think.
Aftter a very short time the team removed the spacer they used to maintain the sample with a gap regarding the magnet.
Me of the other people were able to touch and compress with my hand the superconductor close to the magnet..
It was really impossible to reduce the gap between them even with almost my entire weight..
All of this this, i'm dubitative on this video than the man is able to bring closer the sample to the magnet with only this rod in hand.
Display MoreHere is a recent video of an apparently successful LK99 replication:
https://www.douyin.com/video/7263715495256378659
Some people have been wondering whether LK99 is a proper superconductor, or a highly conductive oxide material that also happens to be diamagnetic. The above video looks to me like flux pinning, not just diamagnetic levitation. Comments?
Also, the authors of a recent replication (https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01516) claim diamagnetic transition in the 320 - 340 K range. I assume that transition also makes superconductivity more likely than inherent diamagnetism, isn't it so?
There are some LENR theories which propose that superconductivity catalyzes LENR. Now it might be easier to test that hypothesis.
Use Google translate..
Well, my ex wife works at the french Pasteur institute on DNA...
DNA modifications are "forbidden officially " in France, however on Chinese side who knows what is studied ...
One way to see life is that is matter ordered in a particular, often functional, way than what it would be by mere random. Teaching life to grow a metal lattice or a crystal in a certain specific, ordered and useful manner, is certainly a clever approach when precise order is required for a function to be obtained.
I have some expertise in metallurgy and i can confirm that doing this kind of aligned alloy isn't an easy task..
By playing at atomic scale people have to well understand what that involves as difficulties..
As some conponents of this alloy are similar as a bone, for a while i considered a better solution to do a complex alloy by growing it. Even if it's a new field to start ( biometallurgy) this way seems to myself more promising.
What is interesting to say that is from an engineering point of view things to reach are "simple".
In fact, as a conductive wire, we should watch this as a rod.
In this way, even if the current have to cross it longitudinaly most of current waves also moving perpendiculary in this rod.
The same behavior as a gas in a bottle.
In this way, we have to create a rod with alternatively longitudinal atomic layers separated by dielectric atomic layers.
As well as, the current path will remain strictly longitudinal then all current lines will add they respective magnetic field to become isotropic.
These lines will generate a global external magnetic field as a coil, this is the secret..
Unfortunately the engineering task is always difficult because with have to do a kind of big mac with multilayers at atomic scale..( conductive/dielectric/conductive/dielectric.. etc)
Try to fully understand the magnetic behavior remains a great question...it is able to do what you expected maybe no maybe yes..
Anyway, i just have sent an email to Jurg about LK99 in relation with magnetism behavior expected .
Dear Jurg,
i ask myself by a "basic question".
I think you have read recent improvements in superconductivity relative with the 100°C temperature threshold.
If it could be right we will be able to store electric energy in some tores as a magnetic flux self stable.
Superconducting magnetic energy storage - Wikipedia
In this way, if this energy is stored as a self stable magnetic flux what will happen if this device will overcross the supraconductor temperature limit ?
In this scenario where will go this energy previously loaded ?
Lutz Jaitner calculated a huge magnetic field for condensed plasmoids, enough to “glue” them. That is the more conventional explanation, the more “esoteric” is the coherent state that makes the millions of electrons to behave as one.
Well these charges clusters are moving at 60% c in the Thz range which induce a skin effect lower than atom half diameter. You should take this in account in your future thoughts.
Nope - a lone free electrons attracted by oxygen anions implanted into a diamond. No need to jump into Cargo science in this point.
Your postulates are good however you still have to define the glue which sticks all electrons together to fully explain these charge clusters.
Display MoreCharge clusters are common in nature, they are present constantly and everywhere, and we simply do not pay attention to them. It is enough to stroke the cat: - sparks, crackling, the smell of ozone. Is it too much energy release compared to the energy spent? We do not erase individual electrons with silk from a glass stick, but destroy spontaneously formed charge clusters. The electrophoretic machine from the physics classroom, remember? You twist the handle, and sparks jump between the balls. And what if we attach to it a modern, high-efficiency converter of high voltage to voltage to drive the same machine. Does it look like a perpetual motion machine? No, just a kind of conversion of scattered thermal energy, the use of a natural artifact. And if we increase this car to the size of a bus?
But these are emotions... seriously.
In order to convince the opponent of the reality of the previously described model of the structure and functioning of the Scholdens charge cluster, it is necessary to show a number of phenomena. Let's say there is a very small excess of electrons on the surface of our planet compared to the number of protons. The reason for this may be the solar wind. The flow of corpuscles and ions coming from the sun enters the earth's atmosphere, on the other hand, even more ions and neutral atoms are continuously blown away by the same solar wind from the periphery of the earth's atmosphere. A certain balance is being formed in terms of the total electrostatic charge of the planet.
How will excess electrons behave on the surface of our relatively cold planet, if they meet on their way in the vast majority of cases self-sufficient, electrically neutral atoms, molecules and compounds. The ionization energy, or the separation of an electron from an atom from its upper orbit, lies in the range of 10-20 electron volts. So the average energy of the "extra" electrons is below this limit, let's say 5 electron volts. If we recall that the energy acquired by an electron accelerated by a potential difference of one volt corresponds to a temperature of 11,600 degrees on the Kelvin scale, it becomes clear that these are fast enough electrons. Moving charges are affected by their own electromagnetic field. (they twist around the magnetic field line of force). Light electrons are pulled together into jets, begin to move along closed circuits. These tiny toroid coils also interact with each other with their magnetic fields, forming a mutually ordered quasi–crystalline structure of a sufficiently large number of electrons.
Further, the clumps of electrons attract positive gas ions from the near environment and accelerate them in the electrostatic field to such high speeds that the ionized atom loses all its electrons inside the clot and turns into a "naked" core – ion. This charged particle of small size flies through a cluster of electrons, slows down in an electrostatic field and stops at the level of the screening radius, after which it performs continuous harmonic oscillations through the focus of the electron cluster. A whole cloud of such ions spends most of the time on the periphery of the electron cluster, completely shielding it in the surrounding space. The screening radius is such that the number of ions is about three orders of magnitude less than the number of electrons in the cluster.
Now let's move on to the triboelectric effect. The potential difference of tens of thousands of volts obtained by the simple friction of two dissimilar insulating materials, for example, glass and silk, is still an inexplicable paradox. Take a look at Wikipedia, neither quantum mechanics nor classical physics give an answer to this question. If we assume the ubiquitous presence of the charge clusters described here, then the triboelectric effect is explained easily and simply.
At the moment of mechanical friction, when the charge cluster is destroyed, we get a large number of positively charged nuclei – ions flying in different directions. Some of these particles have a high velocity and, accordingly, energy. They cannot be neutralized by the abundant cold electrons and cut into the thickness of the insulating material, taking electrons from neutral atoms. At the same time, a volumetric positive charge appears in the material. The insulator cannot be negatively charged, there are no free electrons in it and "extra" electrons do not bind to it. Therefore, the second rubbing insulating material is also positively charged, but due to its nature, to a different potential. The resulting potential difference is perceived as electrification. The charge from the electrified surface can be removed by bringing electrons from the conduction band (with a metal brush), traces of electrolyte (humidity) or negative gas ions (gradual draining of charge). As everyday experience shows, "extra" electrons do not want to participate in this matter, they prefer to get involved in new charge clusters.
It reminds me also the surface plasmon ...
For completeness, before some time J.F.Prins observed room temperature superconductivity in similar arrangement. But the people are of short memory and attention span, so that they're predestined to invent the same things again and again (so that more people can keep their jobs).
