interested observer wrote:
It was utterly brilliant because it completely eliminated anyone with any capability of critical thinking leaving only exactly the people Rossi depends upon for his “business”.
JR wrote:
The Nigerian scammer technique. See:
Why Do Nigerian Scammers Say They are From Nigeria?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-u…ay-they-are-from-nigeria/
Although I have not a great opinion of IH people, I think that they do not deserve such epithet i.e "incapable of any critical thinking"
Maybe Pegeto wants to publish in Physical Review... a NOT high ranking journal
thesis,, :"Aharonov Bohm theory paper is well known, the effect is controversial."
ok, ok:
Aharonov Bohm theory paper is well known, but the electric Aharonov-Bohm effect has never been experimental verified
please adjust your loose English Walter
"Aharonov Bohm theory paper is well known, the effect is controversial."
The effect is not controversial .. except in Pegeto physics.
The effect cited by Rossi is the electric Aharonov-Bohm effect not the magnetic one!
Nobody has never seen such effect! It's clear now Robert ?
Please use Google..stop embarrassing yourself...Walter
Hilarious!
It's not even necessary a google search!
It's sufficient your preferred information source, wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov–Bohm_effect
"An electric Aharonov–Bohm phenomenon was also predicted, in which a charged particle is affected by regions with different electrical potentials but zero electric field, but this has no experimental confirmation yet."
Please use wikipedia and keep us entertained!
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Is this also for real ?
Display MoreWalter.. the Aharonov-Bohm effect has not been controversial since 1959,, it has been well-known since then
the 2019 Pegeto effect is to make it controversial..
there are of course differing interpretations of the well-known effect
please watch the loose language..
Short answer: Aharonov Bohm theory paper is well known, but the effect is controversial.
Now, please show me a paper where the electric Aharonov Bohm effect has been experimental verified!
Is this for real ?
https://drive.google.com/drive…Ktdce19-wyb1RxOTF6c2NtZkk
https://drive.google.com/drive…Ktdce19-wyb1RxOTF6c2NtZkk
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The Nobel committee has refused to assign the Nobel prize to Yakir Aharonov:
https://www.jpost.com/Health-a…out-on-Nobel-Prize-156853
Few people, in LENR field, have cited the controversial Aharonov-Bohm effect. One notable exception is the ENEA technical report "Rapporto-41".
"This effect is analogous to the well known Böhm-Aharonov effect [20] where the dynamics of a quantum system are
affected by a change in the e.m. potential through a modification of the phase of the wave function."
http://www.fusione.enea.it/pub…R/2002/RT-2002-41-FUS.pdf
All the fuzz about the paper finally made my curiosity outgrow my dislike of anything related to even thinking of paying attention to Il dottore and I went on and downloaded the paper. Now I have to gather momentum to read past the abstract, but just going by it, I think the inventor of the E-cat should have included Kenneth Shoulders in his references.
Fringe, non mainstream, researcher Kenneth Shoulders has not been cited but there is a reference in par 1:
Puthoff and Piestrup in their paper "Charge confinement by Casimir force" propose, as a possible cause of the high-density charge clustering seen by K. Shoulders and other researchers, the "vacuum pressure" hypothesized in 1948 by H. B. G. Casimir
A google search of "Fred Zoepfl" shows that he has been heavily targeted by Rossi supporters:
http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…physisist-malfunctioning/
http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…nst-swedish-involvements/
http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…bassy-to-discuss-lithium/
http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…evealed-as-an-ih-insider/
http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…n-activated-again-on-ecn/
Would you care to comment on this classical interpretation of the AB effect Walter?
It looks high rank... but I dunno..
A link to the full paper ?
What is exactly your point ? Is there any connection to Rossi paper ?
Rossi supporters have no more arguments.
Is this an acceptable answer to Fred Zoepfl comments on Rossi paper ?
Fred Zoepfl is a nuclear engineer with a genuine Ph.D. degree.
You wrote
'take a look at citations. There are no high rank journal in the list.
When I pointed out
"Aharonov, Y. and Bohm, D. Significance of Electromagnetic Potentials in the Quantum Theory. Physical Review, 115:485-491, aug 1959. doi:10.1103/PhysRev.115.485 ResearchGate:https://www.researchgate.net/p…heory_Phy_Rev_115_485-491
Ok, ok!
So please correct my sentence
Substitute
"take a look at citations. There are no high rank journals in the list."
with
"take a look at citations. There is only one high rank journal in the list and what is stated in this paper is incompatible with quantum mechanics"
Why? In many-nody physics, electrons acting as composite bosons is well known, e.g. through Cooper pairing, fermionic condensation, etc...
Only in condensed matter. Cooper pairinig needs a lattice. Does not exist such a thing as "fermionic condensation" in hot plasma!
So I guess the the effect does not happen? wikipediasense..
No, I'have never said that. What I'm saying is that what is stated in the only mainstream article cited by Rossi is incompatible with quantum mechanics!
Are there any doubts that Rossi paper is incompatible with quantum mechanics and special relativity ?
Moreover the most cited author in Rossi paper is David Hestenes, a retired old professor that dares to say that mathematical formalism used by 99%
of physicists is not the most appropriate!
You can find Lewis Caroll in his citations
more pearls of commonsense wisdom from Walter..
"It is just a very old (60 years old!) paper. "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I have cited a scientific journal!
From when is Wikipedia an authoritative and reliable source of scientific informations?
Walter Pegeto
"I stand for true science, i.e. science certified by authorized experts and high-rank scientific journals."
you imply that Aharonov and Bohm are not highranked sources to be referenced
It is just a very old (60 years old!) paper. Moreover the so-called Aharonov Bohm effect is incompatible with quantum mechanics!
Incompatibility of the Aharonov-Bohm effect with the quantum laws
If you judge cold fusion by your standards, you will conclude that it does not exist. Most authorized experts and high-rank journals reject it. If you judge it by the standards of experimental science, by the laws of physics, logic and by common sense, you will conclude that it does exist. The authorized experts who deny that are wrong. Worse, they are fools and stuffed shirts, and not experts at all, with regard to this subject. Read what they themselves wrote and you will see they are nitwits. History is full of similar examples.
I think you should always judge a scientific question strictly by the objective standards of science. You should ignore the opinions of authorized experts and high-rank journals. A replicated experiment overrules them all.
Your arguments are dangerously similar to those of conspiracy theorists. They say: "do not trust experts", "mass media are utterly corrupted by few powerful lobbies like big-oil or big-pharma or by a mysterious undefined "deep state".
Common sense alone tell me that if a huge project like ITER has been financed with more than 12 billion dollars by tax payers of many countries (China, European Union, India, Japan, Korea, Russia, United States) , it's evident that cold fusion does not exist!
https://www.iter.org/proj/inafewlines
"Thousands of engineers and scientists have contributed to the design of ITER since the idea for an international joint experiment in fusion was first launched in 1985. The ITER Members—China, the European Union, India, Japan, Korea, Russia and the United States—are now engaged in a 35-year collaboration to build and operate the ITER experimental device, and together bring fusion to the point where a demonstration fusion reactor can be designed."
And you keep on delivering! Fantastic!
What it would be really fantastic if even illiterate people understand the necessity of a carbon tax to reduce dangerous emissions,
and the importance of fact-checking (anti-fake news, anti-hate) international commissions.
Reading this post was really sobering. Thanks Walter for letting us know where you stand in this regard.
I stand for true science, i.e. science certified by authorized experts and high-rank scientific journals.
"Science is not democratic" as proudly stated by the top-level scientist prof. R. Burioni.
As an example we should not even discuss scientific proven facts as the anthropic origin of climate changes.
Even Greta has well understood this point: Listen to the [true] scientists!
I agree. LENR has had difficulty gaining traction within the science world and so the publications tend to come out in marginal places. My point, however, is that the Rossi's researchgate paper shows a familiarity with theory and a level of English writing skill that is above his usual abilities. I don't think he wrote it and I wonder how he acquired it.
I do not understand your point. Does not matter who wrote this non-peer reviewed pet theory.
Probably a tinfoil-hat, english mother-tongue wannabe pseudoscientist.
