Nanomagnetism and LENR

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My God man! Do you believe ANYTHING someone claims?

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I and two other talented engineers set out to make independent measurements of the performance. We found a large ferrite billet (1" x 4" x 6") weighing one kilogram. The billet was highly insulating. It was also ferromagnetic with unusual field characteristics.

The billet was wound around each of its 3 axises with about 150 feet of magnet wire. High voltage pulses were sent in through two windings and power was extracted from the third winding to charge the battery pack of the car. We found an excess electrical power out put of 60 watts for the 6 days of the test. During this period the billet ran 5 degrees C below ambient.

@mary, I was going to tell you that your reading comprehension is truly appalling, but then I remembered, you are just a troll (and harking back to your Sniffex salad years doesn't change this).

Or perhaps you were one of the 'talented engineers' Brian refers to? ...As you appear to have first-hand knowledge of what actually happened?

brian, I guess you can consider yourself well-and-truly 'hodied'!

A more detailed discussion of the Manelas device: (start at 10:40)

"It's preposterous, it seems to break the first law of thermodynamics ...But that's the business we're in..."

From Mark Dansie 2015:

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Several highly qualified and accomplished parties have worked with Arthur over a number of years. They are working on what was learned in their own labs. There are many groups, parties and individuals involved. Each will reveal or publicize what ever they develop in their own time. Many of these people network together, while others do not even know about each other. The equipment for testing used in one case I know of is world class. And yes Arthur's claims on the devices mentioned were tested.You have not heard of this and many other research projects for a variety of reasons. It is not always the case that people have to publish, discuss things on free energy forums, or be featured on Peswiki. Many people do not want to engage in public debates...

...If you think anyone is stepping up to the plate and discuss the work publicly at this stage to satisfy someones curiosity then you are sadly mistaken.

As a long time observer of the LENR, clean energy bubble, I am quite amazed that you found no way to further pursue the Manelas device. I trust that you and the other testers are skilled and competent and honest reporters of the energy effects you observed in New Hampshire. It is clear, however, that it sometimes takes a skilled debunker to detect the amazing "magic tricks" sometimes used to fool just such observers as you and your team. Can you take a moment to reflect on that? How many times did you see the device in operation? What were the environments (his shop or yours?) Can you imagine any way the results could have been faked?

On the other side of this is the question of what happened to the device itself? Can you take some time to create, as near as possible, it's characteristics? Obviously, you understand that the story, on the face of it, seems wildly unlikely, like the first chapter of a grade B Sci Fi story. An earth shaking discovery lost to an unexpected death with no trace left behind. Reminds me of the Morris Ward "starlite" super insulating material, demonstrated convincingly on television, but lost at his unexpected death. Look it up on youtube if you are not familiar with it. Clearly this invention might have had astounding impact in many ways had it been genuine, and not lost.

I am sure you have searched your memory for any lead to follow, but can you please take a moment to describe what steps you took to rediscover this device?

Thank you.

Science grows through explaining exceptions. For example, Newtonian physics explains most of the universe, but there are a few exceptions that it cannot explain: the orbit of Mercury and the bending of light through the influence of high mass is another. To explain these exceptions, the general theory of relativity is required. Einstein was judged to be a kook until Max Planck took him under his wing and sponsored his ideas. Not until then did general relativity gain any traction in the science world.

LENR is another example of the exception to the rule. Quantum mechanics works well for most things but there are a few things that it cannot handle. For example, what goes on inside the proton and neutron is not subject to the rules of quantum mechanics, so a new force was invented called the color force that handles this exception. The color force is the source of the strong interaction, or that the strong interaction is like a residual color force which extends beyond the proton or neutron to bind them together in a nucleus. The other exception that goes along with the color force is the fractional charge that quarks have. There are also the strange cases that come up involving the fractional quantum hall effect where magnetism produces balls of fractional charge that really surprised physics.

The color force is carried by gluons which makes it different from magnetism. But the quarks inside the protons are thought to be monopoles and they cannot be separated. But why is a quark different than a monopole which can be separated. This confinement is caused by superconductivity inside the proton or the neutron.

The monopole magnetic field comes from Surface Plasmon Polaritons solitons that form on the surface of all nano and micro particles. All nanowire based nanoparticles produce superconductive behavior due to topological restrictions in current flow. So most nanowire shaped nanoparticles will be LERN capable. This low level of LENR activity is what is seen in many LENR reaction. Where Rossi has improved the process is the production of graphite like nanowire particles called Rydberg matter.

If we could produce a monopole that was inside a superconductor, then we would have something special. We would have quarks. This is the exception that quantum mechanics cannot handle. The color force, quarks, and superconducting monopoles are covered by non-associative quantum mechanics. It is the repeated graphite like plate structure that is the key to a powerful LERN reaction.

It just so happens that nano particles can produce a superconducting monopole. This is accomplished in Rydberg matter which has been proven by Holmlid to be superconducting and subject to the Meissner effect.

The Rydberg matter that is produced in the LENR reaction is a carrier of the color force that keeps quark contained. This conjecture is proven true in the experiments of LeClair. The water particle is a water based Rydberg matter formed under the tremendous pressure and temperatures produced in the collapsing cavitation bubble. When this nanoparticle begins to eat through material no matter how hard, the particle is protected by destruction from nuclear level forces equal to that of a supernova by the quark based superconductive strengthen color force at the tip of the water crystal. The monopole shield is impenetrable and can withstand a supernova based explosion. When LeClair puts this extra force into the cavitation erosion equations, the equation becomes valid after a hundred years of failure.

LeClair states:

NanoSpire Cavitation Erosion Model Prediction of Fusion Thermodynamics

Mark LeClair of NanoSpire has solved the one hundred year old problem of accurately predicting cavitation erosion for all materials, as a function of cavitation and material properties. Researchers including Lord Kelvin, Lord Rayleigh and many scientists since their day have been unable to solve this seemingly intractable problem. Previous attempts at deriving an accurate general equation have been off by a factor of up to 300X compared to data.

Mark has derived a general equation for cavitation erosion that is a 98% R^2 curve fit for ASTM-G32 cavitation erosion data for 22 different materials. The equation takes van der Waals repulsion into account during high speed impact of cavitation reentrant jets. The equation predicts that a thin layer exists at the point of cavitation reentrant jet impact with a substrate where van der Waals repulsion dominates. The pressure in this thin zone is in the range of a few hundred up to just over a thousand gigapascals depending on the strength of the material.

In cold fusion, we are dealing with a special exception to standard reality involving the color force, gluon force carriers, quark confinement, non-associative quantum mechanics produced by a special shape (topology) of a special nano/micro particle.

See for the theory as follows:

Vortices in Non-Abelian Gauge Field Theory

http://www.tims.ntu.edu.tw/download/talk/20110113_1507.pdf

I believe the secret to Rossi and most LENR is the trigger mechanism. You need more than pure heat to get it going. Some experiments may have a trigger mechanism that initiates the reaction but the experimenters Are not aware off it, and therefore have troubles replicating their own experiments.

A note how Focardi triggered his Ni cells (long before Rossi):

"After several loading cycles, the sample was ready and it was possible to trigger the exothermic process. Such an operation can be performed by lowering the input power, waiting for the sample temperature to decrease down to about 300 K, then suddenly restoring the previous power level. After this operation an increased equilibrium temperature, as shown in fig. 4, is obtained: the cell is producing an excess heat. Another way to trigger the process is to provoke a pressure step-like variation, as shown in fig. 5. After the triggering procedure, the production of excess heat is maintained for months ."

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSlargeexces.pdf

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/l…nomalousHeatEffects-w.pdf

Or from the Piantelli patents:
"........impulsive trigger action consists of supplying an energy pulse"

".....trigger means (61 ,62,67) for creating an impulsive action (140) on said active core (18), said impulsively action (140) suitable for causing......"

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/claims?CC=EP&NR=2702593A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20140305&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

".........an impulsive application of a package of electromagnetic fields, in particular said fields selected from the group comprised of: a radiofrequency pulse whose frequency is larger than 1 kHz; X rays; v rays; an electrostriction impulse that is generated by an impulsive electric current that flows through an electrostrictive portion of said active core...."

"- an electric voltage impulse that is applied between two points of a piezoelectric portion of said active core; an impulsive magnetostriction that is generated by a magnetic field pulse along said active core which has a magnetostrictive portion."

"Such impulsive triggering action generates lattice vibrations, i.e. phonons..."

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2010058288A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20100527&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&locale=en_EP

And triggering of the Brillouin reactor: electrical stimulation Of the core

Ref. Mckubre stated on Brillouin: "The fact that the Q pulse input is capable of triggering the excess power on and off is also highly significant.”

Mary

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If the laws of thermodynamics did not work exactly as advertised, the universe would be wildly different from what we observe.

Assumption, again the language you use does your argument no credit. the proposition leaves no room or acknowledgement for further discovery, particularly subtle but complex principles such as Einstein's over Newton's. Further, such language would not be tolerated by Judge Judy in an effort to bring crooks to justice.

best regards
Frank

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Or from the Piantelli patents:
"........impulsive trigger action consists of supplying an energy pulse"

".....trigger means (61 ,62,67) for creating an impulsive action (140) on said active core (18), said impulsively action (140) suitable for causing......"

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/claims?CC=EP&NR=2702593A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20140305&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

The key to the Rossi effect is the generation of Rydberg hydrogen matter creation during the fuel preparation process. Rydberg Hydrogen Matter might be created using a shock wave during the fuel preparation phase.

The intensity of the pressure applied to a material is proportional to the instantaneous power applied to the surface of the material. The faster that a material is shocked, the larger the pressure wave that will be created. To get great pressure to be generated, a intense amount of energy must be applied in the shortest amount of time to the smallest possible area.

Rossi does not do this in this reactor, but he does it in his fuel preparation process. Once Rydberg matter is formed, it will stay active for a long time so a fuel preparation process may create LENR active hydrogen that has a long shelf life.

Once the wafer is coated with lithium, nickel, and hydride, Rossi might treat the surface with a high energy laser, spark, proton or electron beam to produce the required shock pressure needed to convert hydrogen into Rydberg matter.

Additives that might aid in the Rydberg matter preparation process are graphite, lithium, and/or potassium.

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The billet was wound around each of its 3 axises with about 150 feet of magnet wire. High voltage pulses were sent in through two windings and power was extracted from the third winding to charge the battery pack of the car. We found an excess electrical power out put of 60 watts for the 6 days of the test. During this period the billet ran 5 degrees C below ambient.

The issues for me here would be the measurement of the input and output power. When there are high power spikes measurement is difficult anyway - it requires care. EMI from the spikes can then contaminate measurements in apparently unrelated sensors and lead to false readings.

So without a massive amount of skilled checking I would not trust this measurement one inch - that is not saying the people doing it are deliberately dishonest - just that it is an easy thing to get wrong and not know you are getting it wrong. "skilled people" does not help because there are many different skills and you'd need the right skills + the time and effort to do a thorough careful check. Neither are clear.

The same applies to many of the Brillouin results where the claim the output power switches on and off pretty quickly with the electromagnetic high power stimulus. It is very difficult in such a system to know whether the apparent excess is real or an artifact if you are not aware of all the issues and positively checking for them.

The above is why I part company from Mary.

When an honest and skilled person, operates slightly out of their own area (say) using high-power RF electrical pulses with sensitive instrumentation, do you say they are dishonest just because they firmly believe something which is not true?

The difference is subtle - dishonesty is where at some point the experimenter realises they have an error and does not deal with it. But what if you know there is an error, have checked and (you think) plugged it, but don't validate this completely and the error continues? This has happened to me many many times with problems. In most cases the real world catches up with you and you end up needing to mend it.

In the case of LENR the real world never does that because you accept the unusual behaviour as from LENR and that is it.

So for LENR experiments where the correct results are not predicted you need much more checking for this sort of problem than normal.

Re. Measurement of power spikes: I guess this is one of the benefits of using a battery as the energy source. The total amount of energy used over time can be measured, perhaps most accurately when it is recharged (My £20 chinese Lipo charger can do this suprisingly accurately).

In this case, I assume the battery is discharged and recharged simultaneously, but that shouldn't prevent a decent measurement if some kind of conditioning is added to the loop before a well-shielded charger? I'll defer to you (an EE?) on this one...

Two things intrigue me though: the 5C temperature drop (Tom, you must admit this is pretty interesting, and difficult to mess up the measurement of?). Also the voltage drops coinciding with the aurorae borealis (mentioned in the video), which can surely be argued not be to any sort of rigorous 'proof', but still, could help those who choose to theorise about how it might work.

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In this case, I assume the battery is discharged and recharged simultaneously, but that shouldn't prevent a decent measurement if some kind of conditioning is added to the loop before the charger? I'll defer to you (an EE?) on this one...Two things intrigue me though: the 5C temperature drop (Tom, you must admit this is pretty interesting, and difficult to mess up the measurement of?). Also the voltage drops coinciding with the aurorae borealis (mentioned in the video), which can surely be argued not be to any sort of rigorous 'proof', but still, could help those who choose to theorise about how it might work.

I make no assumptions about how the +50W excess was measured - and doing this from the charge state of the battery looks impossible to me if it is charged and discharged. But we don't know this. This whole setup looks like classic silliness, and it is for a decent credible write-up to change that impession. It would have, as I've said, to be done by a very good EEE.

The other claimed anomalies look even flakier! They are also incoherent with any other experiment. (5C temp drop - stored night-time temperatures? Or mistake?).

It is sort of embarrassing to have this anecdote classed with LENR experiments, however bad many of those are.

http://www.infinite-energy.com…ine/issue119/manelas.html

Info on Arthur Manelas.

In physics, a lot of "unexplained" phenomena. For example - of the two strips of lead-sulfuric acid battery do. Charge, measure the amount of energy, and then discharged. And after - raise the temperature and ?? EMF increased! Discharge, again measuring the amount of energy, even stand up at a high temperature, measure the back emf discharge, and so the circle many times. Question on filling - where does the energy come from? Is the direct conversion of heat into electricity? But thermodynamics forbids it.
Maybe
"engine Bedini" works on the same principle, but he does not want to
pass for an idiot and invents all sorts of different buzzwords?