Rossi then added, "Last, but not least: we obtained the safety certification."
So it appears that hurdle has been overcome.
Rossi has said this for 10 years. And again, there is ZERO reason not to show a safety certification. He did this once and it backfired as it clearly showed to be a worthless "cert". It was a self certification from SGS that was simply for electrical boxes, some switches and other common components. The cert clearly and absolutely stated the cert could NOT be used for advertising nor commercial purposes, yet Rossi did so anyway. It has been said (I have not tried to confirm) that SGS pulled even that simple self certification for electrical components from Rossi.
Again, there is zero reason why one would not supply the certification unless they knew it would expose lies. I.E. a certification is along these lines "SGS has tested "unit X" to standard ASTM XYZ and found it conforms to all requirements. " There is nothing in a cert that exposes proprietary information.
Rossi does not provide proof of the cert because :
A) He does not have one
or
B) It shows that it is certifying something other than he claims and shows that he is misleading / deceiving people. Such as the SGS cert did.
@ Bob2, surely you are speaking about certification at the manufacturing level of a device. For one-off products that are still in R&D and used/field-tested in an industrial setting, the rules are not as stringent. When Rossi talks about getting safety certification, I assume this regards the general safety of his device operating in an industrial setting and under certain conditions.
Mark,
There is no "one off" safety certification. Truthfully, in many instances, there are no laws requiring any certification for industrial use. Most companies would not dare use a non-certified device due to liability however. As far as prototypes, again, there is no law or "need" for any certifications. So this is not logical either.
Again to Mark and others... a certifying agency will not issue ANY "Safety" or other type of certification unless there is an approved industry standard to which to certify. Rossi's answer :
"The safety certification is based on precise measurements of specific parameters related to safety, like radiations, etc., not to theoretical hypothesis of Physics. We already obtained the safety certification." is pure BS!
Certifications have nothing to do with theory, showing that Rossi does not know what he is talking about. Certification means that an agency is CERTIFYING to a known standard! Not simply taking precise measurments of parameters related to safety! This is pure BS.
For instance, he mentions radiation....
a) What standard was used? One might say they showed zero so it is safe?
b) Did Rossi send an eCat to the agency so they could test it under all operating conditions? They would not certify zero radiation unless they actually tested under power and the complete range of power etc., using their own devices AT their own facility. Do you really think Rossi allowed this? Again I know a certifying agency would require a published standard. Yet Rossi will not provide this? hmmmm..
c)So even if he did get a "Cert", he should be able to show it. Just like a UL cert. , there is no proprietary information given. Simply "UL certifies unit X met or exceeded standard XYZ"
If Rossi does not supply this info, you can rest assured he is lying and worse, he is insulting your intelligence.