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  • I'd like to urge Google that there are a wide range of anomalies they would detect from a resonantly tuned reactor operating in the negative resistance regime that do not at all confirm to any established, mainstream theory. In addition to excess heat, light, and electricity, they'll be able to detect strange radiation (via track marks on plates and neutron detectors), anomalous back spikes that flow into the power supply (witnessed by Tesla, Correa, Chernetsky, etc), scalar longitudinal wave emissions (impulses of curl free vector potential propagating into the surrounding environment), spectroscopic anomalies (anomalous line broadening), transmutations and isotopic shifts (they will vary depending on the composition of the electrodes and gaseous fuel mix), and others!


    If they found an enhancement of fusion rates by 160 fold interesting, they'll be on the floor paralyzed in shock if they are willing to build the device and run the tests I've proposed. These phenomena are witnessed over and over again by a long series of inventors. I have no doubt they'll observe these anomalies and with their equipment and resources be much better equipped to gain a more complete understanding of the primary mechanisms involved.

  • I must admit I did not consider the language issue. Still, there are translators.


    What they need is an interpreter, not a translator. I am a translator, and I would be useless in that situation. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find an interpreter who understands electrochemical and calorimetric jargon. Anyway, it works much better to do it over many weeks in writing. I wouldn't recommend a site visit until you have tried to replicate. That way you know the experiment already.



    What is the obsession with sucking eggs? I'm pretty sure it's not a Japanese thing.


    No, that would be "Preaching a Sutra to Buddha." Sucking eggs is an old fashioned American expression.



    By analogy, it should have never been a priority for Rossi to make better, more efficient or hotter ecat reactors. All he had to do to become world famous and an instant billionaire was to prove that the original, small, supposedly steam making ecat actually worked.


    Maybe not an instant billionaire, but he would have gone a lot farther than he did. I think there is little prospect Mizuno will become an instant thousandaire even if this is widely replicated. It may be harder than you think.



    Again, I am not saying you and Mizuno are remotely like Rossi. But coincidentally perhaps, like Rossi, you refused a simple rapid test which would solidify the claim that the large reactor makes a comparatively immense amount of power.


    It is not a matter of refusing so much as not wishing to do an experiment that we think might be dangerous without proper equipment. Also, we disagree with your view that this would be more convincing. The people who need to be convinced also disagree with you.

  • However, insofar as Google is a business and they are doing this with the goal of developing a technology and making money,


    When you get so huge, dominant, and rich as Google, Bill Gates, Carl Page, Powers Trust Fund, and even Darden (on the lower branch :) ), there can be a humanitarian mission first, and profit comes second. At a certain point, making money is an afterthought. If that were the main driver in this case, I could not imagine a Google pursuing LENR. Like you said, they could wait and let others do the dirty work, and then if successful, jump on the band wagon. Then use their influence, resources, and capital to capitalize on others efforts.

  • Like you said, they could wait and let others do the dirty work, and then if successful, jump on the band wagon. Then use their influence, resources, and capital to capitalize on others efforts.


    That was IBM's oh-so-clever strategy in the early to mid-1980s. They thought they would rake in advantages from Microsoft's growth, and from the boom in compatibles. They thought they were in charge, and they could call the shots in the computer industry. Because they were the kingpins from the beginning of the industry up to that time. It turned out, Microsoft soon owned IBM, and IBM soon lost more money in one year than any company in history, and almost went bankrupt.


    If people start to make money with cold fusion, they will not cash in by selling shares to Google. Google may hope they will, but I don't see that happening. That would be like Microsoft cashing in their chips in 1985, just when things got going.

  • Godes' message states he believes Rossi ("Lugano test"). I could not find a date on it. Here it is from LinkedIn. If it's current, ouch!


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    About In 1992 I constructed a self-consistent theory of the physics behind the phenomenon “Cold Fusion”. This theory has had a successful first principal test performed by Tom Claytor, before he retired from LANL. A key aspect was successfully simulated in a TAP at PNNL. I personally have constructed multiple control systems that allow the reaction to run in a controlled fashion. With my team at Brillouin Energy we have designed and built progressively more advanced systems to do the same and run several successful tests demonstrating 4X more energy out than in. The theory explains the results of the “Lugano test”. It also explains the results of John Bockris at Texas A&M and why he was exonerated multiple times of fraud or scientific misconduct. Brillouin Energy is a multidisciplinary group of engineers now solving the materials manufacturing and system design issue need to turn this phenomenon into a real technology. We have two design pathways with enough synergy that we are pushing forward on both systems. The HHT™ system is targeting high quality industrial heat up to 700Cᵒ. The WET™ system will provide lower quality heat possibly up to 200Cᵒ but will likely be lower maintenance. For more information and to contact us visit the Brillouin Energy website.


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    Also: Mass flow is much easier for people to understand and this has been one of our biggest issues to bring a new investors on bored [sic].

    No sh*t Sherlock?


    And how about reliable independent (of both Brillouin and SRI) testing before bringing suckers investors "on board?"


    And just to be snippy, constant misspellings don't contribute to class or confidence. A drawing released four or so years ago from Godes, had "hyrogen" and "pluse" instead of ... you know. That remained uncorrected more than a year and is probably still there on Sterling Alan's former web site.


    ETA: Yikes, it's still there! From a related source: http://energycatalyzer3.com/fi…n_Hot-Tube_Boiler_600.jpg

    from: http://energycatalyzer3.com/ne…as-money-to-complete-work

  • Inappropriate move in my opinion. Someone posted some BS from Godes and I responded in the same string. Why that needs to be in clearance is not clear. The guy is not responsible for the crap he posted? Or what? If admins find the need to move the response, fine but then move the original with it. Ah... never mind.

  • Inappropriate move in my opinion. Someone posted some BS from Godes and I responded in the same string. Why that needs to be in clearance is not clear. The guy is not responsible for the crap he posted? Or what? If admins find the need to move the response, fine but then move the original with it. Ah... never mind.


    I missed the other post about BEC you were responding to. Yours was in the Mizuno Replication thread, and I thought it was in wrong place so moved here. Also, it is a little strongly worded so best it be here. No reason either to blame anyone back then who thought Rossi had something. Heck, even I did, and everyone knows I am no sucker. :)


    Main thing is that BEC is a legitimate company, with employees/investors, and survived (so far) where others have not. They made some mistakes, misspelled a few words on their website, exaggerated a bit in the beginning, but that is all behind them now.

  • The likely path for BLP? Same as always. Specious claims. Always changing. Nothing verified or replicated. Nothing sold. No performance. Lots of current into a small space = lots of fireworks, molten metal, sparks, bright flashes of light. Whooohoo. Short circuits in high power situations are fun!

  • I always hated this guy.
    He was constantly insulting all of the "anti-Rossis" by calling them "babblers".

    Yeah, but, totally right, what he (and I include Mats as well) really did not deserve, was this "presentation".


    Rossi's self destruction. Or Ross's "comming out" or whichever word You find suitable... but this was definitely Rossi spitting in the face of all his supporters. Final chapter almost closed.


    Your 'hatred' doesn't matter now. Let it rest. Alan

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    If you can't make a constructive comment instead of automatically attacking BLP then please get off this thread. You're not welcome here.

    Seriously? You have some sort of proprietary and control interest in this thread? Only positive comments that agree with you are deemed acceptable? Noting how absurd Mills' claims are and how long he has gotten funding without accomplishing anything other than bright flashes stimulated by huge currents is constructive.

  • Noting how absurd Mills' claims are and how long he has gotten funding without accomplishing anything other than bright flashes stimulated by huge currents is constructive.


    This is an over SOT -ed comment. Mills found a working process to produce condensed H*. He just repeated the work of Santilli and is not the inventor of the basic principle. His latest publication is a proof that he has H*H* pairs and the look similar to Hydrinos...


    But Mills is not an engineer and his mathematical model for hydrinos looks like fringe, but there are some lucky close matches with better models for H*-H* pairs.


    You can - at most - only punish him for bad management of an interesting project.

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    You can - at most - only punish him for bad management of an interesting project.

    Sure. For thirty years and counting. Enough time for most of modern technology to develop.


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    Mills found a working process to produce condensed H*.

    No. He claims to have. It's an important distinction as folks should have learned from Andrea Rossi. As for Santilli, see this link originally provided by Alan Smith : http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/201…-sees-invisible-entities/


    See also this thread in which JedRothwell describes Santilli as a "lunatic." I know nothing about Santilli but I have been following Mills and his company for more than 10 years and I have a strong opinion from what I have seen so far. It's nothing but claims and very similar to the early Rossi. It doesn't take a genius to make metal flash brightly with 1000 amps.

  • See also this thread in which JedRothwelldescribes Santilli as a "lunatic."


    He strikes me as a lunatic. Personally, that is. I cannot judge his scientific claims.


    There have been gifted scientists who were lunatics. The Birdman of Alcatraz is a famous example. Tesla was unbalanced, in my opinion. Newton was a jerk, but he was the greatest scientist who ever lived.