RobertBryant
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environment with huge magnetic forces?
Thanks Gio
the referred works by Norman Cook(huge)
and Paolo di Sia are great works
they give some ideas for the force between nucleons
but do not answer my question
which does not conflict with
"pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate"
how do the huge 'magnetic forces' hold a single proton together
what keeps the torus stable?
I look forward to your answer..with calculations if possible
you mention
"centripetal magnetic force:
both your and Wyttenbachs's models are amazing to me..
the mass and moment calculations are within my grasp
but
I am still trying to understand his 'strong force equation' after two years..
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The strong force is an attractive magnetic force between the nucleons.
Thanks Gio
There is a lot of work there,I see that you have fixed the toroidal/poloidal radii with moment and mass..
1/rpp = 938.272083
rpp= 1:06578893 x 10-9 eV
About the 'strong' force
The proton is one nucleon.
The magnetic forces that hold it together have an interesting dependency on radial distanceI look forward to seeing your ideas on that..
Perhap they are not as colourful as the 2004 Nobel Prize winners' explanation..
The Nobel Prize in Physics 2004The Nobel Prize in Physics 2004 was awarded jointly to David J. Gross, H. David Politzer and Frank Wilczek "for the discovery of asymptotic freedom in the…www.nobelprize.org -
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that we introduce structure, which is inevitable!
The model structure of the proton needs to specify known values such as mass and moment
before we build/model complicated structures...like bricks in a house,
QCD bricks are low quality
QCD proton magnetic moment
1.4 +-0.1 versus 1.41060607..,,x10-26 JT-1
QCD proton mass
930+- 30? versus 938.2720813 Mev
http://www.durr.itp.unibe.ch/talk_09_psi.pdf
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The toroid enclosed by the trajectory is 3d
Hi Gio .. I read the first sentence
"Otto Stern's 1933 measurement of the unexpectedly large proton magnetic moment
indicated to most physicists that the proton is not a point particle."
and a bit more.
Otto Stern would have been dismayed to see the
" quark plus super glue-on " model for protons and neutrons
currently marketed in the popular press!
About your model moment calculation..
the proton magnetic moment is not explicitly calculated
but you use a 3D major torus radius of 0:5873608214 10-15m
in the Wyttenbach model ,the SO(4) 4D ?radius (0.59458487...)
is calculated from 3D 'measured radius geometrically via Sqrt 2.
The Wyttenbach calculation for the model moment appears to be almost exact (7 s.f.).
after corrections for flux compression.
What is the explicit proton moment calculation in your current model.?
But ,as you know, a model is more than a moment...
In addition can your model accommodate
1.proton mass calculation
2.."strong force" calculation
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There is no moving charge in a proton a fact you only grasp if you understand the true structure of matter.
I'm trying to understand it...
The magnetic flux bit is OK for me..
Like Faraday trying to understand Maxwell?
So 'visible' ''measurable?' charge is generated in 4D?
by flux around the proton radius?
and..gravitational mass is part of 'classic EM Mass'?
Faraday would be elated
This cartoon reconstructs history.
but the communist manifesto was 1848...
a few years later
not Faraday's cup of tea..
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What is the base of SO(4) physics (SOP)?
Basically SOP shows how to integrate/project Maxwell equations, basically the forces, into 6D dense matter structures.
All mass is classic EM mass and “occurs” between magnetic flux lines and topological charge.
All charge is classic virtual (topological) charge
generated by nested magnetic flux.
From this it is obvious,
given by the nature of magnetic flux,
that the surface of the acting physical space must be single sided,
because magnetic field lines do not cross.
The topology must be toroidal as the finally generated external visible charge cannot have a singularity.
SO(4) is the first space that allows us to express Maxwell equivalent force equations under total symmetry
in connection with the needed topology (2:1 force action[17]) due to its Clifford torus (CT) center symmetry space.
Further it is well known that the CT is a minimal Lagrangian surface[ That means the CT is an absolute “center” of mass & force and all deviation from its surface leads to excess energy orbits.
arXiv:1710.00322.pdf
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that moves at the speed of light along a path that encloses a toroidal volume.
I guess the toroidal volume for the "OccamRazor" proton is 3D
I think this is different from the 4D Clifford Torus in Wyttenbach's model
which is more fun.,,
An interesting visualisation is at
Clif4d: A Track-TorusThe rendering below is a Clifford torus, a figure that lives in four dimensions, on the 3-sphere (in fact, cutting it into two equal halves). You can rotate…observablehq.comuse shift-drag for 4D effects
there are more than 10(28) protons in the human body
so we may have a fair bit of 4D space inside us..
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but there is room for discontinuous sporadic speculation ad infinitum.
.in the theoretical playground
t would be something like what you find on page 153 of ICCF-7 . Use link below.
something like Quantum gravity? something like quarks:..neutrinos...numerology?
the 1998 pg153 author. wrote
.using five sets of eight primes (2, 3, 5, 11, 149, 863, 1831, 178441) in six groups. The method
fits recognized mass ranges (some of which are known to nine significant digits) and
ratios, predicts masses of unconfirmed particles, and links gravity and electric forces.Nothing more of this ad hoc numerology since 1998
As for his using quarks as a crutch
Quarks give little insight into LENR or fusion.
The most accurate QCD estimate of the He-4 ..deuterium binding energy is
"He-4= 43(20) MeV," versus 28.3 MeV tabulated
"Deuteron 11.5(1.7) " versus 2.2
so the net energy from fusion
by QCD = 43 -4.4 =18.6(21.7) Mev i.e anything between -3mevs and + +40Mevs !
by tabulated values...28.3 -2x2,2 = 23.9..Mev
the QCD range is huge anything from
between _ve 3 Mev and +ve 40Mev
'something like' 23.9..Mev.
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Pffizer CEO no show at the EU Covid meeting
ROOS 52.38
"Was the Pfizer vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus
before it entered the market?"
if NO please say it clearly
if YES are you willing to share the data with this committee
and I really want straight answer yes or no
SMALL (Pfizer shill)1.01.32
NO
you know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand
what is taking place in the MARKET
and from that point of view we had to do everything AT RISK.
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"too cheap to meter".
I don't think they are doing oneliners , especially not Jed
sorry I don't have a Jed Rothwell(Lite) version
STEVE BANNISTER
"will the new energy source replace carbon sources ?
that's my primary interest from my research
but secondarily
the implications for future economic growth are stunning now
like Second Industrial Revolution at much larger scale
6:50
Jed Rothwell
"estimate and uh where do you think that's a pretty big range where do you see it's going to fall in that range" (Ruby)
well it goes in stages
start with a cold fusion cell assume that looking at the cost of materials the cost of manufacturing similar objects such as batteries
and you can begin to estimate how much it will cost
uh look at also the highest power we've achieved so far and assumed they will all achieve that same level then okay
what kind of heat engines are you going to use
just assume that they will be the conventional mechanical ones we have now
well we know how much they cost they sell thousands and they sell millions
when you include automobiles
so we can estimate the cost of those things today
is 300 to 500 per kilowatt hour the cost of an automobile engine used as
a generator is ten dollars per kilowat
t uh kilowatt not kilowatt hour capacity
that is so it's it's fairly easy to make a rough estimate of the cost of cold fusion
after it after it becomes widely used
when when you start manufacturing millions of generators
uh it comes in at about a hundred two hundred dollars per kilowatt of capacity
uh then when you develop more advanced heat engines such as thermoelectric
devices things like that the cost starts to come down some more
the initial cost would be around 20times less than Today's Energy
that would be 10 or 20 years after it's introduced
that's how long it takes uh technology to become
commoditized commodity that's what we call it in the computer business uh computers were introduced around personal computers around 1980
by 1990 or 1995 they they they were far cheaper
and they were also interchangeable and the patents were expiring
so anybody could make one that's what will happen
with cold fusion that also happened with the Model T Ford the 1908 to 1924
thecost fell and fell and fell and then it reached the low point it
happens with a lot of Technology
uh so anyway that's after about 10 or 20 years it will be roughly 20 times
cheaper than Today's Energy and then additional
improvements can be predicted and a hundred years from now
it'll probably be hundreds of times cheaper but that's the
basis of the it's a very simple-minded analysis it really is I
'm just looking at the cost of materials and we all know
what generators cost because they sell lots of them already
it's easy it's easy to project that that's all there is to it
9:49
ALAN thank you thank you Jed I think we perhaps we could go back to Steve
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TM 31.52" Its OK to call it "Jed Rothwell Cheap" just don't call it "Cheap Jed Rothwell" ... Alan
The investment of JR Alan and many others so far in LENR has not been cheap,,
otherwise it would never be worthwhile..
I might summarise the main points for the nonfluent English hearers..
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True, if spontaneous if hydrinos were real. Here we disagree.
Wyttenbach agrees with Drgenek.. Hydrinos are Milllsian fiction..
The socalled dihydrino "{H2(1/4)
of Mills which appears to be the only viable form of Mill's postulated fifty or more 'hydrinos'
is probably a condensed form of the hydrogen molecule
formed exothermically and 'spontaneously' but only under special conditions
Some experimental evidence here
Electron paramagnetic resonance proof for the existence of molecular hydrinoQuantum mechanics postulates that the hydrogen atom has a stable ground state from which it can be promoted to excited states by capture of electromag…www.sciencedirect.com -
Quantum gravity ..would be discontinuous... that is there would be some forbidden jumps
such as you couldn't jump btw 1 and 2 metres,,, such fun..
in an adventure playground
however
the weasel theory can never be tested because the forbidden jumps
are at something like 10exp(-49) metres..
but there is room for discontinuous sporadic speculation ad infinitum.
.in the theoretical playground
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Happens at CERN..but there is group-think and group- see.
never among the unherded cool cats
but thanks for alerting 'the 'community' to the possibility of 3-He
the good thing is that there $ for a gas analyser to help save Europe and the planet..
small money compared to the LHC...
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Why simply a neutron removal from D
Possibly D2>>>>-3-He + n?
If the X123 analyser can pick up 4-He and 3-H ..it should be able to pick up 3-He..,
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I have to send many thanks again for such gift from Mizuno.
I am sure Mizuno will appreciate that..
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you tried also D2 ?
Tomas wrote..attached to the first post this week
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What was achieved?
COP 2 at 40W input power – internal temperature around 400°C
COP 2+ at higher temperatures – to be determined
Deuterium 99,8% from LindeGas was used
Results were repeatedly replicated
What we can offer?
Sending unlimited amount of fully processed meshes for evaluation, worldwide.
Ing. Tomáš Jędrzejek
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Holmlid has recently suggested that since ultra-dense hydrogen is so small and ubiquitous,
But almost vacuum conditions are not ubiquitous... except in outer space.
perhaps this is how stars are born?
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If only they were just crashing rocks..
but the new COLLIDER
will cost $23 billion !
(but won't happen thanks to Vlad's brainsnap..)
Sabine..
" there are entirely different types of experiments that could lead to breakthroughs at far smaller costs, such as high precision measurements at low energies or increasing the masses of objects in quantum states. Going to higher energies is not the only way to make progress in the foundations of physics; it’s just the most expensive one.
The World Doesn’t Need a New Gigantic Particle ColliderIt would cost many billions of dollars, the potential rewards are unclear—and the money could be better spent researching threats such as climate change…www.scientificamerican.com
