ICCF-22 (Sept. 8-13) News/reports/opinions

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    Lunch was served and now Francesco Cellani is up.

    He makes a list of points: one of them is that high pressures a of H2 (or D2) are needed to allow loading the active material. His Vu-Ni Mn alloy is coated by large amount of Fe, Sr, K, Mn (multi layer, nanometric).

    He shows a graph of the Paschem curves, saying the critical point for LENR is 10^1 region.


    Anomalous Heat Effects are observed in wires of Cu55Ni44Mn1 (Constantin) wires.

    Equally spaced knots became hots spots.

    And now I have to look for the microphone which is apparently lost, so I can get the peoples questions when he finishes!

    Hi Ruby,

    Great job!

    During breaks could you look at the poster sessions and report on what you see?

    I’m interested in how Cydonia’s poster on the E-Cat is being received.


    Thanks!

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    Jacques Ruer speaks now on Basics of Air Flow Calorimetry.


    Slide title: Determination of the average volocity V-mean.

    Industry uses a V equalization screen when measureing this quantity.


    Mass airflow sensors are already existing. Hot wire is used in electronic injection, and also differential pressure (Pitot) and differential pressure (diaphram).


    T in and T out:

    If the flow is turbulent, the mixing of the gas "uniformizes" the temperature in the pipe section

    If necessary: put static mixers before the temperature sensors.

    A blower introduces energy, so locate the blower downstream of Tout or upstream of Tin measuring points.


    Slide title: Analysis of the losses: Heat transport phenomenon

    Convection inside the box is the only useful heat transfer mode in AFC.

    Influence of air stratification: 1-outlet at the top of the box produces no stratification

    2-outlets, or if an outlet at the bottom, increases losses by thermal conduction and introduces heat loses.

    Conclusion: Put your outlet at the top for no stratification.


    Heat flow out of the LENR device is mainly given by radiation at temps >300C.

    Radiation will heat the box wall giving more large heat losses - conclusion: use a screen to avoid the radiation.


    Just tweeted out some photos of the sample R20 and the Celani reactors. Go to

    https://twitter.com/ColdFusionNow to see them.

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    Bob Greenyer next on the Parhomov reactor that went for 7 months generating gobs of heat.


    Heater pipe was comprised of atunsten wire, sprial wound on an alumin tube

    between teh fuel pipe and the heater pipe was a junction of a tngsten-rhenium thermocoupel

    A chorome-alumin thermocouple monitored the temperate for the outer surface. The set-up is computer controlled


    I can't keep up because Bob is talking too fast. Talk slower Bob! He says, "read the paper!"

    Inital pressures were close to atmosphereic, but then went to nearly one bar over-pressure, and then pressure fell. Adding hydroegn did not increase the temperature much, and then adding more H led the reactor to slowly die out.


    No excess heat seen below temperatures 1000C, and a "wide range of elements are observed" (V, Ga Co Sr, Yb Hf) especially lots of Calcium. Carbon was found in a small sample. The inner tube in which the nicel was located is silicon carbide, which is the source of the Silicon and carbon, which was not disclosed till now.

    3D view of Parkhomov material

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    How does Ruby Multimedia multitask .. me and my 25 wpm (e3xaggeration) are in awe,:)

    Quote from Drgenek

    Restricting LENR to condensed matter or requiring neutron/ and or other high energy nuclear products is a private definition. I do not agree. It seems like protecting you interests over finding the science.

    No Drgenek, this is not a private definition. This is how the effect is described by people who have actually studied the effect. This describes what is observed. In order to find the science, as you say, what is observed needs to be acknowledged. It does no good to simply imagine what is happening. The imagination is useful only when it is applied to what is known. Otherwise, you would be building on sand without any relationship to reality.


    Good news, it seems, that we have a working R21 for months with clear > error excess heat.


    In which case it can be independently tested and usher in the brave new world in which mainstream science works to understand and then commercialise LENR.


    Always assuming it tests independently as it does for M.


    I think any self-respecting LENR advocate should view this (independent testing) as a priority.


    It is only in the LENR field (little interest in peer-reviewed publication, little interest in open and robust critique) that somone can have stable >> error excess heat claimed devices for several years and yet no independent measurement. let us hope that soon changes.


    Comment on the figures: as I understand it these are all absolute measurements, without control. It would be a helpful and easy cross-check to use an identical (in all respects except mesh) control and do A - B - A testing, documenting everything. When what you have will if real disrupt science you owe it to yourself to do the work needed to validate it.


    THH

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    A coffee break and Akito Takahashi is speaking about the MHE reactor.

    Odd things have occurred: The CNZ7 reactor gets "expanded" by runs, there was broken gas guide in the CNZ7, and white deposites on upper flange aft CNZ7.


    Maximum Excess power tops at 152 Watts on run on 2019/09/09, with several runs in the 14-18Watt range. These were for the 1 kg H-gas runs.


    A second CNZ7r Run sequence maxed at 70 Watts, with several runs in the 50 Watt range.


    PNZ10r Runs went around 30 Watts excess heat.


    Takahashi reports a strong gas turbulence from a Strong Local AHE. He showed a graph where after a heat burst, there was some oscillation in the gasses hitting the interior surface.


    He is also observing "cool downs" as well. He said it was like " "down stream" of thunder storm".

    One of the temperature sensors underestimates the temperature because of the turbulence.

    There is also evidence of "Hot gas up-stream to the upper flange". There is also some strange Phenomenon that cools the RC upper flange, but he is not sure how to explain it, though some how, he believes it's from the convection.


    Excess thermal power of 50Watt continued for two days and then ..... (ha! he switched graphs so you'll have to wonder what happened next...We'll try to get these files.)... Over 50 Watts excess continued for 8 days, as well. He is able to generate tens of MegaJoules (to over 100 MJ) over a month of operation.


    AHE increased after H-desorption in one graph.


    Neutrons were measured, but significantly less than expected from the standard theories; the production of neutrons from this process is comparable to background.


    Conclusion:

    Reproducibility is established!

    100 Watts per kilogram of powerder can be generated for more than several weeks.

    Heat bursts can go much higher.

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    Jirota Kasagi from Tohoku U is up.


    Do photons shed light on the mechanism?

    No discrete gammas with excess heat of NiCuZr-H2.

    Neither continuum gammas for Energy-gamma > 50 keV


    How is locally generate energy transferred to heat?


    What happnen when the generated energy is quickly distributed to many electrons?

    Possibly the energy is distributed in to the electrons, and that is transferred outside of the local area.


    There are 2 processes of energy loss of electron in material:

    1) Collision: caused by Excitation of material atomic excitation, ionization, lattice vibration, ....

    Energy electron >10jeV : Bethe Bloch formula


    2)radiation: Bremsstralung emission associated with deceleration of electrons.


    Electron in Ni for Energy-electon <10keV

    Energy-electron< 2 kev, the range is very short under 40 nm, and the stopping time is very short <200 fs (0.2 ps) . It's a hot spot.


    1 Watt heat makes 6.3 x 10^12 spots.


    But he asks, does a free electron emit a photon? No, because of the energy -momentum conservation.


    How about an electron interacting with a nuclear? It can emit a photon since the conservation law can be satisfied.

    Conclusion: Big energy in a narrow space in thin metal foil will transfer energy to electrons.


    There is lots more here, but I'm kind of lost now that he has introduced imaginary time.... I will take a picture instead! Essentially he says tunneling motion can generate many energetic electrons. He is out of time right now, so he just joked he could use some imaginary time.

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    How does Ruby Multimedia multitask .. me and my 25 wpm (e3xaggeration) are in awe,:)

    My Twitter does not send right away. I don't know why, the connection? The phone? Not sure, but sometimes there is a couple tweets trying to send and they get jammed up.

    Quote from rubycarat

    between teh fuel pipe and the heater pipe was a junction of a tngsten-rhenium thermocoupel

    A chorome-alumin thermocouple monitored the temperate for the outer surface.

    Two thermocouples. Thermometry, not calorimetry. I am a little concerned about this, because temperatures can vary or change across a cylinder. I need to look at the numbers and the actual temperature differences. As Ruby said, Greenyer zipped through the presentation so I didn't follow.


    Greenyer told me that Parkhomov has also done phase change calorimetry and other methods, but he does not want to do calorimetry because it is too difficult for long-term experiments. If so, I would suggest he should do only short-term experiments, lasting a day or two. A 7-month-long experiment not as good as a day-long experiment if that means you have to use less reliable methods.


    This is mere quibbling. It was a very interesting result, and it looks pretty good.

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    Quote from JedRothwell

    Two thermocouples. Thermometry, not calorimetry. I am a little concerned about this, because temperatures can vary or change across a cylinder. I need to look at the numbers and the actual temperature differences. As Ruby said, Greenyer zipped through the presentation so I didn't follow.


    Greenyer told me that Parkhomov has also done phase change calorimetry and other methods, but he does not want to do calorimetry because it is too difficult for long-term experiments. If so, I would suggest he should do only short-term experiments, lasting a day or two. A 7-month-long experiment not as good as a day-long experiment if that means you have to use less reliable methods.


    This is mere quibbling. It was a very interesting result, and it looks pretty good.

    Bob's translation of Pharkomov´s paper is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/…YQeOoePUftdByo7BVnvg/view


    I think the work is very interesting but as his calorimetry is based on an equation for the thermocouples it will never be accepted as valid no matter how consistent the values. I appreciate greatly the elemental analysis as it provides a good backdrop to compare against the potential excess heat. If you find elemental anomalies, it helps building the case.

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    Vladimire Dubinko is next, and the last lecture for the day. He is talking about "phason flips"

    The outline of his talk is:

    Quantum tunneling induced by time-periodic driving of the potential landcape

    Discrete breather in Ni and Pd hydrides

    Phason Flips in Pd and Ni nanoclusters

    Phase diagram of Pd and Ni nanoclusters loaded with hydrogen

    LENR


    The probability of fusion in a solid is very small (according to conventional theory).

    But Dubinko asks, is the Coulomb barrier in the lattice really that big?


    W.E.Lamb showed there is indeed electron screening, and J Schwinger showed screening due to lattice electrons. There is effective Coulomb repulsion with Zero-Point Oscillations. As the distances between the deuterons becomes lower than the amplitude of quantum vibration, then the Coulomb repulsion is much less around 100 eV. DD fusion rate in Pd D lattice is given, and its very low.


    Can we increase the quantum noise? In the textbook stationary state, yes.

    But if you consider a more relevant model of double well potential with time-periodic modulation, this then changes the 1) eigenfrequency and 2) the ________ ? (amplitude of quantum oscillations maybe? missed it.)


    He shows the title: Generalized Uncertainty relation and Correlated coherent states, and then asks, can correlation make the barrier transparent? A nice animation of his model shows yes, as the potential graph changes shape.


    Schwinger's work is informing him.


    Dubinko says that "In order to increase probability of nuclear fusion we need a mechanism to time-periodic driving of the potential landscape.: this is discrete breathers and phasons."


    The frequency of motion of nuclei is a function of amplitude, so you can control this. His results are well-above the phonon range.


    NiH with polarization shows a frequency lying within the phonon gap.

    Dubinko says to consider the importance of nano-clusters of cuboctahedral cluster (fcc), the only spatial configuration in which the length the polyhedral edges is equal to that of the radial distance from its center .....


    These clusters can change from one geometry to another in a very short time.


    He says that experimental methods to synthesize 13 atom Pd or Ni cluster (sizes 0.5 nm) confined in nano-porous matrixes need to be developed.


    I think that's it for the day. Sorry for the incoherence! This is a heavy session!

    • Drgenek
    • Restricting LENR to condensed matter or requiring neutron/ and or other high energy nuclear products is a private definition. I do not agree. It seems like protecting you interests over finding the science.
    • I'm surprised at you saying this to Ed Storms since the patent you have applied for relies heavily on neutron production.
    Quote from THHuxleynew

    It is only in the LENR field (little interest in peer-reviewed publication, little interest in open and robust critique) that somone can have stable >> error excess heat claimed devices for several years and yet no independent measurement. let us hope that soon changes.


    THH

    THH, when you state such conclusions, you reveal no understanding of what is happening. Independent testing requires money and the equipment needed to do the test. Both are in short supply. Nevertheless, I know for a fact that many attempts to perform independent measurements have been made, some with success and some without success. More are underway. Consequently, making such general statements further amplifies the lie being told by skeptics. Also, most papers are peer reviewed. Granted, JCMNS is willing to accept papers that are not of the highest quality. This is done because we still do not know everything about the effect. No one wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. Nevertheless, the good papers demonstrate the reality of LENR without any doubt. Only the details are unknown. Although you frequently do a good job of finding error and suggesting improvement, you at the same time do a lousy job of being objective and accurate about what is known and what is happening in this field. We need people of influence to support the importance and reality of LENR so that the money and willingness needed to study the effect become available. Your efforts toward this goal would be more valuable than making silly comments having no justification.

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    "This field lacks a clearly and fully specified written protocol to reproduce even semi-reliably any aspect of our claims for cold fusion or condensed matter nuclear effects of any sort.

    My hat is off to McKubre, for once. That is exactly what I and many skeptics have been claiming albeit less eloquently, for at least eight years now, since Rossi raised his ugly head in 2011.

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