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  • Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says


    Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says
    Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle…
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    (CNN)Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.


    "Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."


    That's why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

    Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected -- data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.


    "If you're going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, to somebody who can't get vaccinated, somebody who might be immunosuppressed or a little bit frail, somebody who has comorbidities that put them at high risk, I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings," Walensky said.


    The dangerous Delta variant has fueled the country's latest surge of Covid-19 cases and if more Americans don't get vaccinated and mask up, the country could soon be seeing "several hundred thousand cases a day," similar to the winter surge, Walensky said.


    And while states across the South -- including Florida and Louisiana -- have seen exponential rises in cases, Walensky said, they have not reached their peak just yet.


    'Next variant is just around the corner'

    Getting more people vaccinated won't just help crush this surge, experts say. It will help prevent other -- potentially even more aggressive -- variants from arising in the future.


    "The next variant is just around the corner, if we do not all get vaccinated," Adm. Brett Giroir, the former coronavirus testing czar under President Donald Trump, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.

    I just beg the American people to understand that to defeat this virus, we have to get everybody's level of immunity up, and that's just the way it is," he added.


    Roughly 58.2% of the US population has received at least one Covid-19 vaccine dose, CDC data shows, and about 49.9% is fully vaccinated.


    There was some encouraging news Thursday, as White House data director Dr. Cyrus Shahpar tweeted there was the most number of doses reported administered in a single day in more than a month. He said that more than 864,000 doses had been reported administered over the previous day's total, including about 585,000 people who got their first shot.


    In the coming weeks, surges will likely reach all across the US, not just areas with low vaccination rates, former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden said Wednesday. The outbreaks, however, will not be as explosive in areas with higher vaccination coverage, Frieden added.


    As cases increase, hospitalizations and deaths will likely rise as well, according to ensemble forecasts published Wednesday by the CDC. The forecast predicts a total of 624,000 to 642,000 deaths will be reported by August 28. As of Wednesday, there have been 614,342 Covid-19 deaths in the US, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

    If you're not protected against Covid-19, the virus will likely infect you, Michael Osterholm, director for the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, told CNN's Pamela Brown on Wednesday.

    This virus is highly infectious. If you decide to try to run the game clock out, don't try to do it. This virus will find you, it will infect you eventually," Osterholm, said


    Fortunately, the available vaccines appear to offer a strong defense against the Delta variant, especially when it comes to severe illness and deaths, Frieden said.


    "We are at war with this virus that has already killed more than 610,000 Americans. We now have the tools with vaccines and masks to stop further death and suffering and destruction," CNN medical analyst Leana Wen said Wednesday.


    FDA could lay out vaccine booster strategy next month

    Meanwhile, as more questions arise over whether fully vaccinated Americans will need booster shots, a Biden administration official told CNN that internal discussions at the US Food and Drug Administration have centered around an early September timeline for laying out a strategy.

    That strategy would apply for all vaccinated people. A decision for those who are immunocompromised and face greater risk from Covid-19 is expected sooner, the official said.


    Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that people with compromised immune systems may need additional protection after receiving a Covid-19 vaccine -- and there is an effort to make vaccine booster shots available to those people "very soon."


    "There are those individuals who are immune compromised -- transplant patients, patients on cancer chemotherapy, patients on immunosuppressive regimen, for example, for autoimmune diseases," Fauci said during a virtual event hosted by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam on Tuesday. "Those individuals we know almost invariably do not have an adequate response, so the need to give them an additional boost is much more emergent than the general population."

    Vaccine advisers to the CDC have met to discuss whether immunocompromised people may need additional protection from a vaccine booster but have not presented a recommendation or voted on guidance.


    On Wednesday, US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said a recommendation from the federal government on vaccine boosters will come "if and when" there is evidence that rising infections are due to decreasing vaccine immunity.


    "I recognize that individual doctors and their patients may make a decision ... around ... getting an extra dose and that may be as it is but formally, we cannot make that recommendation yet until we feel that the data is clear and indicates boosters are required," Murthy said.


    'We've let our children down,' FDA vaccine adviser says

    Low Covid-19 vaccination rates in the US place children -- many of whom cannot get vaccinated -- at risk, Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine adviser to the US Food and Drug Administration, said Wednesday.


    "I think we've let our children down," Offit told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.


    There is not currently a vaccine authorized for children under the age of 12 in the US, so young children rely on the vaccination of those around them to protect them, Offit explained. And many children who are 12 and older have not yet gotten the vaccine, he added.

    "We need to get vaccination rates up, so that these children can be protected," Offit said.


    Highlighting that point, the president of Our Lady of the Lake Children's Hospital in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, told CNN his staff is seeing babies in the neonatal intensive care unit sick with Covid-19.


    Dr. Trey Dunbar told CNN children are being victimized by a pandemic that has a simple solution: adult vaccination.


    "Covid is a preventable disease," he said. "It's hard for us as pediatricians to see kids affected by a preventable disease. Children aren't like adults. They don't have the choice to get vaccinated.


    "So, yes, it makes a big difference when adults make decisions for kids and adults make decisions that could maybe prevent diseases that we see in children," Dunbar said.


    Concerns over America's youngest come as schools across the country gear up for reopening -- and as district leaders try to navigate the safest way to return to class. Having children wear masks remains a point of contention in communities throughout the US -- with some states requiring masks in schools while others have prohibited mask mandates.


    On Thursday, Metro Nashville Public Schools sent a letter to families saying students, staff and visitors will be required to wear masks in school buildings when the school year kicks off next week. Masks will also be required on school buses, but not outdoors, the district said, adding the rule will stay in place "until further notice."


    Only six ICU beds available in one state

    Even after the development and release of Covid-19 vaccines that so many health care professionals had hoped for, rising cases have led to overwhelmed hospitals.


    Arkansas health officials reported a "record low number of available ICU beds," Wednesday. According to Arkansas Department of Health public information officer Danyelle McNeill, the state had just 25 ICU beds available.

    According to Arkansas' Covid-19 dashboard, there was a total of 1,232 Covid-19 positive admissions. The total number of Covid-19 positive admissions in the ICU is 466, and the total Covid-19 positive admissions on ventilators is 260.


    As of Wednesday morning, Mississippi had only six open ICU beds available in the entire state, Dr. Jonathan Wilson, chief administrative officer and Covid-19 incident manager, said during a Covid-19 briefing with University of Mississippi Medical Center leaders.


    "A very simple number, six. That's how many open ICU beds we had in the state of Mississippi, this morning. Six. So, the situation is getting dire, not just here at the Medical Center, here in Metro Jackson, but the entire state. Our neighboring states are having similar situations," Wilson said.


    "We're doing the best we can, from a state standpoint, to try to distribute patients to ensure healthcare as we know it is delivered. But we aren't on the cusp of this, we know that we aren't at the crest of this wave and it's bad, but it's probably going to get a little worse," Wilson added.


    Clarification: This story has been updated to specify that Dr. Walensky was referencing fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection when saying that vaccines no longer prevent transmission of Covid-19.


    CNN's Lauren Mascarenhas, Elizabeth Stuart, Kaitlan Collins, Naomi Thomas, Deidre McPhillips, Jeff Simon, Nadia Romero and Raja Razek contributed to this report.

  • , which W says is less than the risk of dying if you slip on a banana peel.

    THHuxleynew You have Dementia: Please look for a doctor. I said Soap slipping! It is in the national (CH) death reason statistics I once personally had to help to do.

    I will stop to discuss with a mentally sick person as this would be insane.



    I repeat it for the others once more. 97% of all COV-19 deaths in Switzerland are older than 65 years. The average age of deaths is 84 years ==> above average CH live expectation. The CoV-19 CFR for all people younger than 65 was 0.05 in spring 2021 based on the antibody statistics that did show 4x more infections than PCR tested ones. Now it is even lower thanks to delta that produced > 70% (before it was 30%) antibodies among non vaccinated too.

    If we discount all persons at risk like chemo/cancer patients strokes, obese,diabetes etc. then only a few deaths remain at age <65.


    Here an instructive interview (Health car prof. running a vaccination center) from 9. January 2021 in German (AU)

    Prof. Dr. Martín Haditsch
    TV-Sendung des Regional TV (RTV) in Österreich(Video "gerettet" aus einem FB-Link)
    youtu.be


    Only "healthy" idiots age < 65 kill/endanger themselves with a completely untested RNA gen therapy, that produced no proper immune memory and badly fitting antibodies that do barely work for mutations.


    As said: Long Covid among children is a myth. A study did reveal that the symptoms can not be distinguish among a cov-19 group and a healthy group. My tip: Reduce the depressive fascist propaganda that causes all this damage!

  • COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days


    COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days
    The Phase II trial for an Israeli COVID drug saw some 29 out of 30 patients, moderate to serious, recover within days.
    m.jpost.com


    The Phase II trial for an Israeli COVID drug saw some 29 out of 30 patients, moderate to serious, recover within days.

    Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer.

    The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days.

    The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.”

    The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras.

    Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body.

    “It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.”

    The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs.

    “This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said.

    CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm.

    Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance.

    “This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.”

    “Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.”

    Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery.

    “We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said.

    “By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added.

    The team is now ready to launch the last phase of the study.

    “As promising as the findings of the first phases of a treatment can be, no one can be sure of anything until results are compared to the ones of patients who receive a placebo,” he said.

    Some 155 coronavirus patients will take part in the study. Two-thirds of them will be administered the drug, and one-third a placebo.

    The study will be conducted in Israel and it might be also carried out in other places if the number of patients in the country will not suffice.

    “We hope to complete it by the end of the year,” Arber said.

    If the results are confirmed, he vowed that the treatment can be made available relatively quickly and at a low cost.

    “In addition, a success could pave the wave to treat many other diseases,” he concluded.

  • Thanks W, I note that you agree with my rough calculations, and therefore agree that age 50-59 the dangers from COVID are 100X or more greater than from the vaccine.


    maybe - with your soap slipping (I apologise) comparison - you are just saying that for you a 1 in 50 chance of long COVID cognitive deficit is irrelevant, and a 600 in 1,000,000 chance of death is also irrelevant. So, for you, it is just that you'd reckon no-one would bother to reduce these small risks, they are so small? Just checking...


    THH

  • About the value of studies (Israel Pfizer, Hospital workers) and how serious doctors communicate it.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072

    Our study has several limitations. First, even

    though we provide extensive documentation of a

    cohort of breakthrough infections, the numbers

    of cases were relatively small. Second, this cohort

    represents mostly young and healthy persons,

    and all breakthrough infections were mild

    and did not require hospitalization. Thus, we

    could not determine the correlate of protection

    from severe infection or infection in vulnerable

    populations of older persons with coexisting illnesses.

    Third, we may have missed asymptomatic

    cases despite the intensive effort to test all

    exposed health care workers, since we did not

    conduct surveillance testing. Fourth, the controls

    were not matched according to testing or

    exposure but only according to the timing of

    serologic testing in vaccinated, uninfected health

    care workers. Thus, we could not control for differences

    in the risk of exposure to Covid-19.

  • That UK data


    England has been unlocked for 2 weeks now, after freedom day - the govts pathetic mixed messaging about whether we should not have any regard for COVID rate and or whether we should behave as though COVID did not exist.


    Adults have a very high vaccination rate, with most infections driven by < 25 age and the 5% or so of the older population who remain unvaccinated and then make up most of the hospital admissions! A lot of young people are also ending up in hospital. Not dying, but COVID has other long-term nasty effects than death.


    Anyway, we have been running at a very high infection rate:


    2 weeks ago 1:75


    1 week ago 1:65


    Today: 1:75 :)


    So this is proof that the rather inconsistent case number changes do in fact correspond to R ~1 or even a bit less - given this is 15% reduction in infection over 1 week.


    So we have another 3 weeks of possible reduction, then schools come back. We are now vaccinating 16-17 year olds, and still quite a lot of the 18-25, so there is some hope ove rthe next 3 weeks we can push R down further.


    Anyway this is pretty good evidence that enough vaccination can reduce R < 1 even with delta, with no lockdown. Whether that remains true in winter is a bit less clear.

  • Piers Morgan thinks his double vaccination (last shot in May) may have saved his life, since he continues to be suffering from unpleasant and lingering Covid complications. That's what I like, a cup half full attitude!


    On July 31 he shared on Twitter about his Covid illness and asked others about their experience. Many responded, some of which I include below. I'm not including those who share that they actually got sick from the vaccine itself.


    Piers : Day 18 since COVID symptoms started and still have shocking fatigue & little taste/smell. Anyone else who got virus after being fully vaccinated having same ‘journey’?


    Another : My husband and I both fully vaccinated and very unwell after being diagnosed with COVID at beginning of July. My husband is 51yrs and this is the first time in his working life he’s been off work unwell. We didn’t wake up today until 12:40 and had to drag ourselves out of bed.


    Another : I am double vaccinated and I caught COVID, I am still incredibly exhausted all the time, it has been just over 5 weeks now and no change. My GP said that it should be away in 12 weeks, my taste is only just recovering properly now and my smell took 3 weeks to come back.


    Another : Yes me! I'm on day 17 still no smell and little taste. Get very tired too after doing very little. Am double jabbed and very shocked at how it has affected me, god knows how ill I'd have been without the vaccine.


    Another : Day 14 of Covid after being double jabbed and feeling tired muscle aches tight chest loss of smell and taste. Only reason had jabs so I could travel and still can’t due to restrictions.. had a great immune system before with no illness or health problems


    Another : Day 20, awful fatigue, little taste (coffee tastes strangely metallic)and smell, croaky voice and tinnitus. Double jabbed, but dread contemplating what the alternative may have been.


    Another : I’m fully vaccinated and had it at the beginning of July. I was really ill, not being able to leave my bed for about 4 days because of fatigue. I’m now just starting to have some energy again. Thank goodness I was vaccinated. Hope you feel better soon.


    Another : i am 10 days in and I am absolutely battered. Body ravaged and to be honest I feel beaten. I truly believe that if I was not double jabbed I would now be in hospital.

    Anyone who thinks this is a game regarding the vacine please think again. This thing kills.


    Another : I’d like people to also talk about symptoms/side effects of having the vaccine, a month and a half after having my second one and I’m walking like a crippled person, the doctors don’t know what to do or what to give me, the pharmacist said that there are similar cases in my area.


    Another : Yes my husband and I caught covid a month after being double vaccinated. It took about 3 weeks before my taste and smell came back fully. Still occasionally feel it on my lungs. Thank goodness for the vaccine and so glad I hadn’t seen my 94 year old dad


    Another : My friend is very sick right now. He’s sure that if he hadn’t been vaccinated, he’d be dying.


    Another : I’ve had both jabs tested positive two weeks ago still having coughing fits and struggling to get my breath so unfortunately still of work on laughable sick pay. Glad I had the jabs though could off been a lot worse…








  • Since we have definite evidence - see numbers in my post on that - that the vaccine reduces the risks by a factor of 10 or more, you are I guess making the case that COVID is so horrible anyone in their right mind should get vaccinated.


    There is also a question whether the vaccine reduces risk by giving almost everyone no infection, or a very mild infection, but leaving an unlucky few as before, or whether it improves outcomes at all levels.

  • Dr. Anthony Fauci is back in sales mode, now representing his pharmaceutical patrons.

    He is a government employee. He is not allowed to have pharmaceutical patrons, or any other direct source of income outside of the government. He would get in big trouble if he did. He is a high profile person, so the government would find out.


    Guidance for federal employees on gift giving
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  • Piers Morgan thinks his double vaccination (last shot in May) may have saved his life, since he continues to be suffering from unpleasant and lingering Covid complications. That's what I like, a cup half full attitude!

    I have the same attitude. I would much rather be sick for a few weeks than dead, or permanently disabled with lung problems or cognitive problems. I would say that glass is not half full, but 99.9999% full.


    How about you? Which you you prefer? Would you pick a mild illness for a few weeks, or would you want to die after months of agony in the hospital?

  • He would get in big trouble if he did

    Fauci is in big trouble already...I feel sorry for him

    Fauci opened up about the hate mail he receives, with people calling him Hitler and sending death threats to his wife and daughters
    Dr. Anthony Fauci told Kara Swisher of the New York Times that he tries to focus on work, but "obscene notes" to his wife and daughters bother him.
    www.businessinsider.com.au

  • I have the same attitude. I would much rather be sick for a few weeks than dead, or permanently disabled with lung problems or cognitive problems. I would say that glass is not half full, but 99.9999% full.


    How about you? Which you you prefer? Would you pick a mild illness for a few weeks, or would you want to die after months of agony in the hospital?

    As I've shared before, I'm pretty sure I already had Covid. Mild phlegm in the back of my throat when I woke up one morning in the spring of 2020, about five days after I was exposed to someone who was just back from a holiday cruise and suffering from Covid (I found out later). I think I got a booster (live, aerosolized version) about a month ago, when my throat was a little uncomfortable for a day.


    So, like most, my symptoms after exposure to Covid have been very mild. Sure I could get the vaccine and probably suffer some ill effects, but why? Also, since the vaccines are experimental, we should retain some semblance of a sizeable control group shouldn't we.


    Personally I'll take a few thousand live viruses to do battle with my capable nasal mucosa rather than have tens of trillions of altered RNA bits wrapped in high tech slippery fats and stabilizers, injected directly into my tissue, blood and lymphatic systems, that coopts my body to produce a toxic protein that my body may not properly associate with a foreign, real virus.


    Granted, if I was not informed about things like ivermectin, not supplementing with immunity boosting goodies, and overall not confident of my body's health and immune capability, I might well take a vaccine. But that is not me, that is someone else.

  • Here is yet another report of a deluded nitwit dying from his own ignorance. A leading anti-vaxxer politician in Texas named H. Scott Apley died of COVID. He was an extremist. When a former Baltimore public health commissioner said it was “great news” that the Pfizer vaccine remained effective for six months even against Delta, Apley responded on Twitter:


    “You are an absolute enemy of a free people."


    There are other examples of his extremism.


    Apley died within a few few days of getting the disease. He was 45 and extremely obese, so that is not surprising. His wife and baby are also sick. I feel no antipathy towards him now, because he paid such a terrible price. It is just depressing. There are so many others like him . . . I do feel angry at the Texas GOP because in their announcement, they did not even have the grace to say he died of COVID, or to ask people to be vaccinated.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/05/texas-gop-leader-antimask-antivax-dies-covid/


    Here is a photo of him. He must have weighed 300 lbs. Didn't he realize that put him at risk for severe illness? I guess he just did not believe it.


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    Georgia's own extremist lunatic Rep. Greene was applauded on July 23 for bragging -- bragging! -- that Alabama has the lowest vaccination rate in the country. She also recommended threatening to kill public health workers. The GOP disavowed her, which tells you just how extreme she is, since the GOP is now the avowed party of the Death Cult, advocating illness, lifelong disability, and death.


    Attendees at Republican event cheered Alabama's low COVID vaccination rate
    Alabama has the lowest percentage of fully COVID-19 vaccinated residents in the nation. Cases and hospitalizations are surging.
    www.alreporter.com

  • CDC says unvaccinated is twice as likely to get re-infected as vaccinated.


    Coronavirus Disease 2019
    CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
    www.cdc.gov


    THH will certainly like this article posted on the official CDC. Since he criticizes TSN for being biased and not providing links or qualified sources!


    So this report has several links proving the assertation.... wait... no links?


    This report has detailed content of an RCT.... wait.... no RCT? Certainly some here will then tag this as untrustworthy and one should not pay attention to it..... :/


    The report was on a large number of subject, thus proving it's accuracy.... wait...NO? A small, non-randomized nor control group study? While making the CERTAIN assertation that unvaccinated people are 2.31 times more likely? Yes, THH will surely trash this study as being completely unscientific without control, without double blind, without taking age groups into account.... etc. etc..


    Surely this report will irritate THH as it clearly shows bias and lacks any supporting evidence while maintaining a CERTAINTY of scientific fact!


    OR


    are there a different set of scales used for TSN versus the official CDC website? Good for the goose?


    :whistling: Sorry, I simply could not help. (May not sorry?) TSN is a news site (as in it's name) making public service announcements. It is not Nature or the CDC. I do not see some here bashing CNN for there biased, unsourced and non-qualified reporters....... nor the CDC for making unsupported claims either.


    TSN may not link to the exact studies, but they do give their sources and the sources are qualified... at least as much as others.

  • As I've shared before, I'm pretty sure I already had Covid.

    Pretty sure? Have you had an antibody test to confirm that? Because if you have not, you have no basis to be pretty sure, kinda sure, or any sure. Many diseases resemble a mild case of COVID. No doctor would say she is "pretty sure" of anything based only on your description.


    Even if you did have it, a vaccine is highly recommended. It will prevent reinfection. If you had it, a vaccine may prevent long-haul symptoms, which sometimes occur long after the initial infection. They can ruin your life. No one knows how long they might last. Do you really want to spend months, years, or the rest of your life unable to climb stairs, unable to smell or taste, or in a mental fog? Is it worth it, just to hang on to your deluded opposition to vaccines?


    So, like most, my symptoms after exposure to Covid have been very mild. Sure I could get the vaccine and probably suffer some ill effects, but why?

    Because you might die the next time, or be incapacitated for life.


    Personally I'll take a few thousand live viruses to do battle with my capable nasal mucosa rather than have tens of trillions of altered RNA bits wrapped in high tech slippery fats and stabilizers, injected directly into my tissue, blood and lymphatic systems, that coopts my body to produce a toxic protein that my body may not properly associate with a foreign, real virus.

    That is pure, 100%, unadulterated bullshit. It is dangerous ignorance. Every assertion you have made here is wrong. The disease will give you anywhere from a million to a billion times more RNA than the vaccine. The vaccine is almost all confined to a small part of your arm, whereas the disease will spread it to every organ. The virus DNA is self-replicating; the vaccine is not. Obviously, your body will associate it with a real virus, because the vaccine works. It would not work if it did not trigger the immune system. The spike protein is not toxic. If it were toxic, you would die of the common cold.


    Evidently you think you know more than all those doctors, virologists, and public health experts. This is hubris. It is self destructive ignorance, like what killed Apley and so many others. It is an extreme example of the Dunning Kruger effect. If it were only killing deluded nitwits like yourself, it would not bother me so much, but unfortunately you are also a threat to my health and to the economy, and you are prolonging the need for masks and -- inevitably -- lockdowns in places like Florida. So I resent it.

  • THH will certainly like this article posted on the official CDC. Since he criticizes TSN for being biased and not providing links or qualified sources!


    So this report has several links proving the assertation.... wait... no links?

    What are you talking about? It says right there. It is "today's MMWR." That's the CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/index.html). Yeah, okay, they did not link to it directly, but anyone familiar with the CDC knows that is what it is. If you don't know, surely you will have enough sense to look up "MMWR." Google will fill your screen with links to various parts of the MMWR website. It couldn't be easier to find.


    This is like me saying "you can find McKubre's papers in the LENR-CANR library" without giving the direct link. The name is right there "LENR-CANR library" It is a little sloppy, but anyone familiar with LENR-CANR.org will know what I mean. Google leads you right to it.


    (The library is here: https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1081)



    The MMWR report from Kentucky is here:


    Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19...
    This report describes COVID-19 reinfection among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons in Kentucky.
    www.cdc.gov

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